COVID-19 Manitoba

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

So more ethnicity based quotas, personally I think seniors should be first priority regardless of ethnicity, followed by those with compromised immunity such as diabetics etc.

If you're going to comment, at least read the news.

The expected order is:

- Healthcare workers
- Seniors in LTC
- Seniors and people living in communal or close arrangements (including Indigenous reserves)
- List of others

It's not ethnicity-based, it's based off of where people live and how easy it is for the virus to spread (once the most at-risk are protected).

[Danny D Oh]

Originally Posted by Festivus

If you're going to comment, at least read the news.

The expected order is:

- Healthcare workers
- Seniors in LTC
- Seniors and people living in communal or close arrangements (including Indigenous reserves)
- List of others

It's not ethnicity-based, it's based off of where people live and how easy it is for the virus to spread (once the most at-risk are protected).

There is a difference in allocation because the Feds are responsible for on-reserve healthcare (as well as remitting costs to the Provincial system from status 'Indians'). So there will be fewer vaccines in the hands of Pallister's government but that's also because they are not responsible for the healthcare of about 10% of their population.

What Pallister is doing is pure race-baiting and playing off generational biases in this Province.

I'm sure if Manitoba wants the Feds would love to download Indigenous health onto the provinces, but it sure won't help Pallister's attempts at budget surpluses and economic ruin.

[cheswick]

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Festivus

If you're going to comment, at least read the news.

The expected order is:

- Healthcare workers
- Seniors in LTC
- Seniors and people living in communal or close arrangements (including Indigenous reserves)
- List of others

It's not ethnicity-based, it's based off of where people live and how easy it is for the virus to spread (once the most at-risk are protected).

But it’s not ethnicity based when David Chartrand now demands priority vaccinations for Manitoba Métis now is it?!?

[Festivus]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

But it’s not ethnicity based when David Chartrand now demands priority vaccinations for Manitoba Métis now is it?!?

Yeah that would be, but a demand is not a policy. I could demand early priority for Ukrainians but that wouldn't be reality.

[Gm0ney]

I thought Pallister was saying Manitoba should receive more vaccines because of the high percentage of at-risk FN population here - not that they shouldn't be allocating extra vaccines to FN peoples. It was phrased pretty poorly though...

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Gm0ney

I thought Pallister was saying Manitoba should receive more vaccines because of the high percentage of at-risk FN population here - not that they shouldn't be allocating extra vaccines to FN peoples. It was phrased pretty poorly though...

That is what he was saying, and the feds agreed since he announced today that Manitoba would be receiving 15% more than they were initially told because of this.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by cheswick

That is what he was saying, and the feds agreed since he announced today that Manitoba would be receiving 15% more than they were initially told because of this.

Good on Pallister for speaking up although he should have made his point more clearly originally, the CBC and Free Press had a field day with his original statement!

[bomberjet]

He was trying to do an "OMG TRUDEAU" type moment. And came off like an ass. When its a valid point that we just need to know how many doses will be available.

[cheswick]

Vaccination potentially starting next week in MB. 900 people. By end of March a little over 100k people will be vaccinated.

First batch going to front line workers in Covid units.
Then following would be long term care, over 80, and remote communities.

Manitoba population over age of 80 is around 55k.

[cheswick]

[dennis]

Originally Posted by Festivus

Yeah that would be, but a demand is not a policy. I could demand early priority for Ukrainians but that wouldn't be reality.

I would suggest Croats in Manitoba. Much smaller population. We would leave a lot more for everyone else.

[cheswick]

Slow downtrend continues. Also Dr. Roussin announced today that Santa Claus is considered an essential worker so kids don't have to worry about him not being able to visit.

[esquire]

^ TP rate is still stubbornly high, though? Seems like this could be the Trump formula for better numbers... fewer tests, fewer positives.

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ TP rate is still stubbornly high, though? Seems like this could be the Trump formula for better numbers... fewer tests, fewer positives.

Testing is running below capacity. Fewer tests are simply a result of less demand. Based on hospitalization rates Roussin says it doesn't appear they are missing anything significant.

[cheswick]

[Glenn99]

Originally Posted by cheswick

Heading in the right direction but has a way to go before we are anywhere close to being out of the woods.

[cheswick]

[Curmudgeon]

What is preferable, to have 100,000 cases and 1,000 deaths or to have 50,000 cases and 1,500 deaths? The most important statistic is the case fatality rate (CFR) and in this respect Canada and Manitoba are doing rather poorly. The CFR of 2.7% for both the country and the province represents the second highest CFR in the G7 after only the U.K., I think some questions need to be asked as to why in a single-payer system is this the case. By comparison the CFR for the United States is 1.7% and for proximate jurisdictions is 1.1% for Minnesota, 1.3% and 1.4% for North and South Dakota respectively, 1.0% for Montana and 1.2% for Iowa.

[Lars65]

Since testing in North America is so spotty, true CFR is impossible to obtain. The fact is, we have no real idea how many people have actually contracted this disease, and can only guess.