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Old Posted Jun 6, 2013, 9:08 PM
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I have been inside the press box, and if anyone has any problems with it, then they are just spoiled. Regarding the press box, it is big, has outdoor seats, and decent sized windows.

That was just a typical Paul Friesen Article. That man does nothing but find ways to complain about things.

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$190 million in the states would likely get you a scoreboard. I have been to about half of the NFL Stadiums and they are much larger and grander. That being said, i can't think of any i have been to that will be this tight or intimate with regards to being right on top of the playing field. I think we got a hell of a stadium for our budget......could it have been better, possibly.
Thx for this, coming from someone who has seen many of the grand US stadiums.It puts things in perspective.Population,Metro Size and the biggie, "Budget". Yes maybe there could have been some improvements as you mentioned but to what end? Most likely they will enclose the Press box in glass,"for the media ,print press".

But anyway I understand season ticket holders concerns,as they pay for the seats, but It is still impressive for what they've done for the budget alloted to them.

Don't want to offend anyone but I call this " Winnipeg Resident Syndrome".
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2013, 9:10 PM
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I have been inside the press box, and if anyone has any problems with it, then they are just spoiled. Regarding the press box, it is big, has outdoor seats, and decent sized windows.

That was just a typical Paul Friesen Article. That man does nothing but find ways to complain about things.

Thx Chris, apparently we were posting at the same time and I did not see your post until I submitted mine..."Agree"
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I have been inside the press box, and if anyone has any problems with it, then they are just spoiled. Regarding the press box, it is big, has outdoor seats, and decent sized windows.

That was just a typical Paul Friesen Article. That man does nothing but find ways to complain about things.

Stadium is smoking! Congrats Winnipeg, gonna be a great environment for football games!
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2013, 1:07 PM
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Thx for this, coming from someone who has seen many of the grand US stadiums.It puts things in perspective.Population,Metro Size and the biggie, "Budget". Yes maybe there could have been some improvements as you mentioned but to what end? Most likely they will enclose the Press box in glass,"for the media ,print press".

But anyway I understand season ticket holders concerns,as they pay for the seats, but It is still impressive for what they've done for the budget alloted to them.

Don't want to offend anyone but I call this " Winnipeg Resident Syndrome".

It still pales in comparison to the billion dollar palaces that are built in the US, but I imagine that to do Investors Group field as best as it could possibly be would require another $50 to $100 million. That being said I think we built a pretty nice facility for $190 million. The things that are deficient can be altered over time as money or need becomes available....like the cosmetics of seamless glass for the Press Box and private suites.
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It still pales in comparison to the billion dollar palaces that are built in the US, but I imagine that to do Investors Group field as best as it could possibly be would require another $50 to $100 million. That being said I think we built a pretty nice facility for $190 million. The things that are deficient can be altered over time as money or need becomes available....like the cosmetics of seamless glass for the Press Box and private suites.
I think you're sport on with your comment.

One thing to note is with the new TV deal with TSN, all CFL teams will be bringing in an additional $2.5M+ every single season. Likely to increase after the new 5 year deal ends. That's huge in paying the $4M annual payments for the stadium. Should make those improvements over time a little easier too.

On the flip side, salary cap will increase.
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I think you're sport on with your comment.

One thing to note is with the new TV deal with TSN, all CFL teams will be bringing in an additional $2.5M+ every single season. Likely to increase after the new 5 year deal ends. That's huge in paying the $4M annual payments for the stadium. Should make those improvements over time a little easier too.

On the flip side, salary cap will increase.
Hopefully with a bigger salary cap you also get better players and the cycle grows and this league continues to grow, and then you can add more teams, and fix or refurbish more stadiums. With all that is being done, it really leaves only Calgary and Toronto with outdated stadiums
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Hopefully with a bigger salary cap you also get better players and the cycle grows and this league continues to grow, and then you can add more teams, and fix or refurbish more stadiums. With all that is being done, it really leaves only Calgary, Toronto and Hamilton with outdated stadiums
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Don't be so hard on Hamilton, the new stadium being built there just points out that Hamilton has all but given up on professional sports and could make a fine high school stadium in the future.

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Don't be so hard on Hamilton, the new stadium being built there just points that Hamilton has all but given up on professional sports and will make a fine high school stadium in the future.
Maybe it is the optomist in me, but maybe there will be more left over in the contingency or "slush" fund for there to be more added. such as a roof over one section and some permanent enzone seating (maybe up to 25-26K)
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The wavy roof thing is for noise retention? Is this the first time this has been mentioned?
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The wavy roof thing is for noise retention? Is this the first time this has been mentioned?
I asume the " wavy roof " will be acousticly friendly for concerts.
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I asume the " wavy roof " will be acousticly friendly for concerts.
I have my doubts about that one - it certainly may help minimize the noise quantity outside the stadium, but I think they should consult with an acoustic expert before claiming it will improve the acoustic qualities of the venue - the way I would guess the acoustics will work with the wavy canopy is that sound will be bouncing off the roof structure in all directions - there will be some sweet spots, a few places where the volume will be incredibly loud and other places where the sound will be flat and undiscernable.

On the other hand if they were to to acoustically insulate the underside of the canopies it may be very effective at deadening the noise and making for a good music venue - but I don't think that is the effect the bombers would like for home games.
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Don't be so hard on Hamilton, the new stadium being built there just points out that Hamilton has all but given up on professional sports and could make a fine high school stadium in the future.
You can probably place the Hamilton situation squarely on the shoulders of the Tiger cats in my opinion. Who as far as I can see, with the exception of a few minor concessions put up little or basically nothing in terms of cash for a stadium which they will be the primary tenants. About the only contribution as far as I can see made by the Tiger Cat organization was to do a lot of complaining about the location of the stadium which seemed to do a 360 and in the end ended back at Ivor Wynn.

But I would say its not a total loss, the stadium is designed for future expansion. In fact if you go the the Pan-American stadium in the Hamilton blog you can see someone has posted a scale model of the expanded stadium. It actually looks kinda nice with the end zone seating in and it should be fairly easy and inexpensiveness to add temporary or permanent end zone seating in the future. But the lack of any type of protection for fans from the elements aka. no roof I think is a major drawback, at least in this day and age. You can probably get away this in the deep south but not in Canada I say. Who knows maybe if their primary tenant had kicked in $10 or 20 million they could have had some type of roof at least and a little better viewing experience.
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You can probably place the Hamilton situation squarely on the shoulders of the Tiger cats in my opinion. Who as far as I can see, with the exception of a few minor concessions put up little or basically nothing in terms of cash for a stadium which they will be the primary tenants. About the only contribution as far as I can see made by the Tiger Cat organization was to do a lot of complaining about the location of the stadium which seemed to do a 360 and in the end ended back at Ivor Wynn.

But I would say its not a total loss, the stadium is designed for future expansion. In fact if you go the the Pan-American stadium in the Hamilton blog you can see someone has posted a scale model of the expanded stadium. It actually looks kinda nice with the end zone seating in and it should be fairly easy and inexpensiveness to add temporary or permanent end zone seating in the future. But the lack of any type of protection for fans from the elements aka. no roof I think is a major drawback, at least in this day and age. You can probably get away this in the deep south but not in Canada I say. Who knows maybe if their primary tenant had kicked in $10 or 20 million they could have had some type of roof at least and a little better viewing experience.
Hamilton's Pan Am games stadium looks like a NCAA division two stadium at best, certainly not one built in the last 20 years. The CFL should have shown some kohones and told to build it right or not at all.
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The wavy roof thing is for noise retention? Is this the first time this has been mentioned?
cuz he made it up.
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The Arch would have been better for noise retention than the Wave. You don't need a sound engineer to figure that one out. Although, I am one so yeah, Wave just diffuses the sound creating multiple reflective surfaces for it to bounce off of, (Which may actually be better for concerts), however if they wanted a plain loud surface for the players to feel the energy, they should have gone with the Arch.
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Remains to be seen I suppose.

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You don't need a sound engineer to figure that one out. Although, I am one so yeah,
I think they were referring to an professional acoustical engineer.
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