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Originally Posted by HX_Guy
Maybe not...but to me, chains do say that the particular downtown is worth investing in. When I saw Buca di Beppo in downtown San Diego, I was pretty impressed even though the restaurant isn't all that. That's why I think it's pretty sad that there isn't even a McDonalds in downtown Phoenix...I mean c'mon, really, a McDonalds...they are on like every corner everywhere else.
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Quiznos and other chains I'll agree with you, McDonald's no. I have seen urban McDonald's and some other fast food chains in NYC or other major major world cities, but it's extremly rare to see one in the western US without a drivethrough attached. We don't want drive throughs in downtown and from my observations an urban style McDonald's or Burger King without the drive through will be one of the last things to move into downtown. There are McDonald's around downtown where they can build the drive through, just not right in downtown where we don't want that.
Just walk down Mill AVE, it's great and feels nice and urban, then you walk by that Jack in the Box just north of University and it completely kills the urban feel.