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Originally Posted by isaidso
In regards to prevalence of PT, population densities do matter. Policies to curb sprawl and encourage brownfield development increase population density. In 2023, Canadian Urban Area population densities were closer to that of European countries than the United States and Australia. I doubt this was the case a few generations ago. Due to rapid population growth and intensification efforts, Canadian Urban Areas could become denser than German, Italian, and French in the next 15 years. Data can be helpful so I will post some. Demographia publish tables for Urban Areas of 500,000+.
2023 Population Density of Urban Areas
(Number of 500,000+ Urban Areas in brackets)
France (8): 2,972 people/km2
Italy (9): 2,946 people/km2
Germany (14): 2,827 people/km2
Canada (9): 2,490 people/km2
Australia (5): 1,550 people/km2
United States (70): 1,220 people/km2
http://www.demographia.com/db-worldua.pdf
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I think something is off with these figures, probably due to definition and boundaries? The UK in that file (relative to the other countries on your list) shows an average population density of 4,658 per sq km, way above the 2,946 and 2,972 per sq km respectively for Italy and France. Whilst the UK is certainly a densely populated country, and its urban areas are typically more concentrated due to limits on sprawl relative to other anglophone countries, they don’t have the large-scale apartment blocks that are common in most French and Italian cities. Canadian cities tend to possess more skyscrapers, but the urban form drops off dramatically down to single household units with broad streets, that you simply don’t see in Europe.
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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere
I was going off the wiki page, which I admit is 2011 numbers. The UK doesn't really have crazy high population growth though so I don't imagine the numbers have changed massively.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...United_Kingdom
Canadian CMAs have also exploded in the last 2 years with Canada's population boom, they are larger than the figures you are posting. Latest estimates we have is still 2022, so the numbers are even larger than this, but:
1. Toronto - 6.7 (excluding Hamilton/Oshawa), 7.9 million including Hamilton / Oshawa
2. Montreal - 4.4 million
3. Vancouver - 2.8 million
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The UK added >4m in the decade to June 2022, and – like Canada – has experienced a post-pandemic growth bounce with net migration (not including natural growth) in the YE June 2023 of 768,000. Expectations are that the population will surpass 70mn well in advance of previous predictions. Considering that England by itself (which accounts for 93% of all UK population growth) is approaching 60mn and is slightly larger in area than Southern Ontario, that would be considered by most to be strong growth.
Where there is a divergence, is that in Canada, there is a greater concentration of the population in fewer places with vast distances separating settlements. Whilst in the UK you tend to find (outside London) more, smaller, detached but well connected settlements. As an example, Liverpool-Manchester-Leeds is the same distance as Hamilton to Oshawa.