Brooklyn is now "cool", giving Manhattan a run for the money as a place for "Yuppies"

CaliNative · #1 Posted **Oct 8, 2016, 10:04 PM**

Amazed by all the tall buildings going up in Brooklyn. The Brooklyn skyline is already impressive, and will get more impressive. Wonder if Queens and the Bronx will ever be "cool"? Staten Island??????? Probably not, but I've learned to never say never.

Brooklyn is much more affordable than Manhattan for people starting out; the Bronx and Queens even more so, and the Jersey cities along the Hudson as well. So, affordability will increase development. Manhattan has priced itself out of the market for most Yuppies and working class people, except the richest and those willing to share living spaces to reduce costs. Transportation availability makes Brooklyn just a 5 minute subway ride away. There are vast swaths of the lower eastside and north of the 70s in Manhattan that could be developed with more affordable housing towers, so Manhattan could still take the lead.

hammersklavier · #2 Posted **Oct 8, 2016, 10:09 PM**

You're, uh, a generation late to the party, bub.

CaliNative · #3 Posted **Oct 8, 2016, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier

You're, uh, a generation late to the party, bub.

The "coolness" factor for Brooklyn started increasing years ago, but it is picking up pace and the towers are now rising in startling numbers. Used to be the Williamburg was the tallest. Not any more. When financial guru Jim Cramer started a bar, he opened it in Brooklyn, not Manhattan.

dc_denizen · #4 Posted **Oct 8, 2016, 11:18 PM**

For all downtown brooklyns progress, it is still a ways away from being truly transformed since the bad old days

Crawford · #5 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 1:57 AM**

Is this post from like 1988? Brooklyn is "cool"?

Next you'll tell us that hipsters are arriving in Brooklyn. Could it really be true?

The North One · #6 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 1:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier

You're, uh, a generation late to the party, bub.

lol

Seriously

hauntedheadnc · #7 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 2:23 AM**

Call me when Staten Island is cool.

James Bond Agent 007 · #8 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 3:49 AM**

Or Bayonne.

ChargerCarl · #9 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 8:43 AM**

I thought NYC wasn't cool anymore?

ThePhun1 · #10 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 9:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

Amazed by all the tall buildings going up in Brooklyn. The Brooklyn skyline is already impressive, and will get more impressive. Wonder if Queens and the Bronx will ever be "cool"? Staten Island??????? Probably not, but I've learned to never say never.

Brooklyn is much more affordable than Manhattan for people starting out; the Bronx and Queens even more so, and the Jersey cities along the Hudson as well. So, affordability will increase development. Manhattan has priced itself out of the market for most Yuppies and working class people, except the richest and those willing to share living spaces to reduce costs. Transportation availability makes Brooklyn just a 5 minute subway ride away. There are vast swaths of the lower eastside and north of the 70s in Manhattan that could be developed with more affordable housing towers, so Manhattan could still take the lead.

In other breaking news, the sun rose today...from the east!

ThePhun1 · #11 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 9:20 AM**

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Call me when Staten Island is cool.

We'll call when Staten gets annexed by New Jersey.

hauntedheadnc · #12 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 1:50 PM**

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We'll call when Staten gets annexed by New Jersey.

So, next Thursday then? 11ish? We can grab some paella and make a lunch of it.

chris08876 · #13 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 2:30 PM**

The weather right now is 53 F, so the OP is definitely right, Brooklyn is cool in some respect. But it was red hot in August!

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We'll call when Staten gets annexed by New Jersey.

I think NJ should trade Jersey City, and we will keep Staten Island. JC is a rogue city. It's the Taiwan of NYC. It should be returned.

tdawg · #14 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 2:33 PM**

I think if the post was titled "Queens is now cool, giving Brooklyn a run for the money as a place for Yuppies" it would make more sense.

chris08876 · #15 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 2:36 PM**

In all seriousness, LIC and its proxies are the cool spots and places to be price wise. Parts of Brooklyn actually give Manhattan a run for its money when it comes to unit prices. DoBro, Williamsburg, Park slope, and so on are actually very expensive. I would not say its the place for younger people to be. Its changed to the point where its suitable for 30-35 yr olds whose income is in the range of 100-140k (combined household).

streetscaper · #16 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 4:31 PM**

Ummm ....no offense, but is the threadstarter 13 years old? Or has he/she even been to NYC?

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There are vast swaths of the lower eastside and north of the 70s in Manhattan that could be developed with more affordable housing towers, so Manhattan could still take the lead.

Vast swaths?.. I hope you're not promoting knocking down beautiful tenement buildings and row homes for towers. I hope you instead mean to say the Projects in these areas contain developable land.

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Originally Posted by CaliNative

The "coolness" factor for Brooklyn started increasing years ago, but it is picking up pace and the towers are now rising in startling numbers. Used to be the Williamburg was the tallest. Not any more. When financial guru Jim Cramer started a bar, he opened it in Brooklyn, not Manhattan.

Since when Williamsburg ever have tallest in Brooklyn. That was always downtown Brooklyn.

Also since when do "the tallest towers" equate to "cool"?

uggh

the urban politician · #17 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 4:39 PM**

If you ask me the coolest borough is Queens.

Actually, no.....its Manhattan. I mean, give me a break

Crawford · #18 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

In all seriousness, LIC and its proxies are the cool spots and places to be price wise. Parts of Brooklyn actually give Manhattan a run for its money when it comes to unit prices. DoBro, Williamsburg, Park slope, and so on are actually very expensive. I would not say its the place for younger people to be. Its changed to the point where its suitable for 30-35 yr olds whose income is in the range of 100-140k (combined household).

Small 2 bedrooms in the desirable parts of Brooklyn run $1 million++, so are very comparable to most parts of Manhattan. Even 1 bedrooms run $1 million+ if new construction. Family sized units (say 1,500 square feet+) usually run $2 million+. No one is moving to Brooklyn these days to get a "good deal" relative to Manhattan or any other place.

Here's a small new condo building where a family friend recently bought. And it's in Boerum Hill, which while a good neighborhood, isn't an A+ location.

http://610warren.com/availability.php

And households in the 100-140 income range aren't buying those units. Probably triple your income range, at least.

the urban politician · #19 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 4:55 PM**

Brooklyn's come a long way from the days of Welcome Back, Kotter eh?

In a sense when a place becomes that overpriced it kind of ain't that cool any more. The New York of Archie Bunker and the likes would have been interesting to see, although nowadays hard to even imagine it once existed

Buckeye Native 001 · #20 Posted **Oct 9, 2016, 5:58 PM**

Wake me when Leonardo, NJ becomes the next big hipster enclave.