Walterdale replacement and discussion - Page 10

Coldrsx · #**181** Posted **Nov 4, 2013, 9:06 PM**

^yup, part of the awful full highway master plan...

Coldrsx · #**182** Posted **Jan 6, 2014, 7:26 PM**

http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...3_Yearbook.pdf

Hallsy's Toupee · #**183** Posted **Feb 11, 2014, 5:27 PM**

Project update:
http://www.edmonton.ca/transportatio...te_Feb2014.pdf

hilman · #**184** Posted **May 2, 2014, 6:33 PM**

https://twitter.com/vineshpratap/sta.../photo/1/large

Coldrsx · #**185** Posted **Aug 29, 2014, 1:01 AM**

Wow and yes please.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...003/story.html

Mercucio · #**186** Posted **Sep 1, 2014, 1:01 AM**

^ Not a fan. A bad idea wrapped in earnestness.

itom 987 · #**187** Posted **Sep 1, 2014, 2:22 AM**

The proposed restaurant being so close to the new bridge makes me not a fan of it either.

EdmTrekker · #**188** Posted **Sep 1, 2014, 2:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by Mercucio

^ Not a fan. A bad idea wrapped in earnestness.

The idea of the resto riverside is a good one...just not on the old bridge. I do think it would detract from the new bridge and of the image we are trying to create entering through the river valley into City Centre. Perhaps a resto on a promenade in the old power plant site that reaches over the water or in the old ice that Dub already owns will provide a unique dining experience.

Mercucio · #**189** Posted **Sep 1, 2014, 4:18 PM**

^ Totally agree.

hilman · #**190** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 5:45 PM**

Update from the City today.

Tweets from https://twitter.com/BreannaCTV

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BreannaKarstensSmith @BreannaCTV
At the Walterdale Bridge for an update on construction. Everything is pretty much on time and on budget

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Bridge arches will arrive late this year or early next. They're in Korea right now being assembled. One piece is 10M, 100 tonnes

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Engineers in Korea are practicing arch assembly, it's a big undertaking. Once here, the bridge will finally start looking like a bridge

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The arches of the Walterdale Bridge will be as high as the High Level!! 50 metres high!!

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Other side, this is going to be a dedicated toboggan hill! At the bottom there will be seats to watch fireworks

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This is the base of the bridge, the thick lines show historic flood levels. Flood dates will be etched in.

Hallsy's Toupee · #**191** Posted **Oct 8, 2014, 1:43 AM**

Here's the CTV story
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/video?cli...ylistPageNum=1

Hallsy's Toupee · #**192** Posted **Jan 6, 2015, 2:27 AM**

Arches delayed again, til late February
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/video?playlistId=1.2174446

Hallsy's Toupee · #**193** Posted **Jan 27, 2015, 3:16 AM**

Lamphier: City still waiting for Walterdale Bridge arches
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...436/story.html

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EDMONTON - Six months after the arches for Edmonton’s new Walterdale Bridge were scheduled to be erected, they still haven’t landed in Canada, let alone Edmonton.

The heavy steel pieces, fabricated by South Korea’s Daewoo International for the project’s general contractor — a joint venture between Spain’s Acciona S.A. and Calgary-based Pacer Corp. — are now on a ship somewhere in the Pacific.

Once the 42 individual arch components arrive in Vancouver, they’ll be loaded on a train, and then travel by rail to Edmonton, where they’ll be off-loaded and trucked to the Walterdale project site.

hilman · #**194** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 3:49 PM**

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City of Edmonton says Walterdale Bridge will open on time, despite steel delays
By Ryan Tumilty
Metro

Courtesy City of Edmonton The new Walterdale Bridge will be wider, accommodate more traffic and have larger pedestrian areas.
While the structure’s steel is now set to arrive months behind schedule, the city remains confident the new Walterdale Bridge will open on time.

The steel arches are on a boat steaming across the Pacific from a fabrication plant in South Korea and should arrive in Edmonton in late February.

Project manager Allan Bartman said the steel was initially supposed to be here at the end of last summer. He said they’re still confident the bridge will open this fall, but concedes it won’t be easy.

“It’s going to be a very aggressive schedule to get the bridge open,” he said.

Bartman said the arches were all built and assembled in South Korea and then disassembled for the trip here, which he says should smooth any problems here.

“That does take more time at the plant and overseas, but what that should do is remove risk,” he said.

http://metronews.ca/news/edmonton/12...-steel-delays/

Coldrsx · #**195** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 4:47 PM**

Aggressive means longer hours, weekends, fine... do it.

itom 987 · #**196** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 5:09 PM**

One more delay and the completion date falls back.

Hardhatdan · #**197** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 9:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Aggressive means longer hours, weekends, fine... do it.

I think they are going to have to night shift.
We'll see what happens, erecting those arches and installing that deck is alot of work.
Is it a cast in place deck, anyone know?

EdmTrekker · #**198** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 10:06 PM**

As long as it is on "time" as per schedule in contract it matters not. But did the city have a hammer for delays in delivery?

Hardhatdan · #**199** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 12:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by EdmTrekker

As long as it is on "time" as per schedule in contract it matters not. But did the city have a hammer for delays in delivery?

What did the city have to do with any of this. The contract is between the contractor and their supplier. The COE can pound on their contractor, the Acciona Pacer JV. It's up to the contractor to work with or pound on daewoo To . get the material to site
The big test is how hard the COE will push the JV to make the completion date. Will they demand 24 hour a day work? Who knows, the COE doesn't have much of a stick unless the are penalty clauses, it's not like kicking the JV out and replacing them will fix anything.

Honestly, I think alot of this is a lack of experience within the COE or being tied 100% to low tender. Somehow the complexity of projects continually gets under estimated and we all get to watch the results and there is some mechanism missing to look at the proposed schedule and say, ya that's BS they might be cheap but they are lieing in their time lines.

If someone comes around and says the COE directly procured the arches and is supplying them to the JV to erect I'll cry, the COE would be on the hook for some major delay costs.

Hallsy's Toupee · #**200** Posted **Feb 28, 2015, 5:57 PM**

South Korea to Edmonton: Transporting the Walterdale Bridge arches
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ches-1.2976527

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The new Walterdale Bridge could start to take shape in a few months, now that the long-awaited steel arches have finally arrived in North America.

The arches, which will span more than 200 meters, were constructed in Yeosu, South Korea and are set to arrive in Edmonton at the end of March.

The steel arrived by boat in Vancouver on February 13th, more than six months later than expected.