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Well, there is another city with a crazy amount of topography in America as well...

Cincinnati


http://www.rantlifestyle.com/

And we even had numerous inclines...until we ripped them all out for White Castles...

http://www.cincinnati-transit.net/

Dayton is also quite hilly, particularly south of downtown:

http://tripadvisor.com/

Of Ohio's seven largest metros, only Toledo and (city of) Columbus are "flat." Metro Columbus is quite hilly east of the beltway and the city itself also has various ravines ala Toronto...


http://www.sleepyhollowpumpkins.com/

...but in general is quite flat. Toledo is a pancake. Metro Cleveland has valleys; Akron is hilly; ditto with Youngstown.
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San Francisco is the highest city.

I like that tooth... and those crazy snakehead hands.

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I work in the building on the top right. Trimont Bldg. Jelly much?
Good views... but not many lunch options man.

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You might want to recheck that.
Ok... almost 50,000 feet high.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2014, 4:22 AM
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^^^ Cool pics Reverberation. Atlanta's natural landscape is filled with green trees and hills as far as the eye can see.

Here is a cool shot of the skyline in the distance in a rare perspective.

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No doubt that SF has very impressive hills, stunning scenery, and the urban infrastructure built on those hills... but SF is characterized by more gradual, uniform elevation changes characteristic of coastal topography. So much so that a street grid system can still be maintained even in the presence of such dramatic heights in the city -- and the grid in turn defines the city's structure.
San Francisco's grid isn't the product of a gentler topography than Pittsburgh--it's the product of an imperial mindset that considered topography a nuisance to be overcome, by any means necessary. San Francisco physically imposed its grid upon the land, altering the terrain to force the grid through. Much of eastern San Francisco--the Financial District, Mission Bay, the Mission, Dogpatch, India Basin, the Bayview--are landfill. That landfill was the product of hills lowered, smoothed or just dynamited.

Even still, there are many segments of "streets" in San Francisco that consist only of steps, because they're too steep:

Baker Street:

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Saturn Street:

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Vallejo Street:

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Vulcan Stairway:

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Peralta Avenue:

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Lyon Street:

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Baker Beach Sand Stairs:

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Lombard Street allows cars but requires switchbacks:

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San Francisco's other twistiest street, Vermont St. on Potrero Hill, also requires switchbacks:

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San Francisco ranges from sea level (downtown, the beaches, wharves, port, etc.) to 928 ft. above sea level. The difference between Pittsburgh's highest and lowest points? Only 660 ft.

The tops of San Francisco's tallest peaks are undeveloped, like the forested Mt. Sutro, at 911 ft.:

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...and Twin Peaks, at 925 ft.:

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...and Mt. Davidson, the city's highest point at 928 ft.:

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The city's northwestern corner is also mostly undeveloped due to the rugged cliffs at Land's End. Looking toward the Golden Gate:

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Land's End looking toward the Marin Headlands:

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Sunset from Mt. Davidson, looking across the Golden Gate toward the Marin Headlands:

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SF is by far the winner for urban built environment. I'd say that SAn Diego is a very close second. Point Loma, Bankers Hill, steep canyons, rolling mesas, foothills, and mountains all within the city limits. Mountains up to 2000 ft within city limits (Mission Trails park) and 6500+ in the county.
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I hope to do a few for Michigan over the next few days. Of major cities in the state that have notable inner-city topographic features, Grand Rapids is probably the most varied and interesting. The old city sits in a river valley and is ringed hills to the west, north/northeast and lesser degree to the east.

Some of these photos are years out of date. Couldn't find newer ones.


DSC03143_edited-1 by Will L Schulte, on Flickr


Health Hill by Eridony, on Flickr


Skyline from 4 miles away. by creed_400, on Flickr


The Stairs by Eridony, on Flickr
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San Francisco's grid isn't the product of a gentler topography than Pittsburgh--it's the product of an imperial mindset that considered topography a nuisance to be overcome, by any means necessary. San Francisco physically imposed its grid upon the land, altering the terrain to force the grid through. Much of eastern San Francisco--the Financial District, Mission Bay, the Mission, Dogpatch, India Basin, the Bayview--are landfill. That landfill was the product of hills lowered, smoothed or just dynamited.

Even still, there are many segments of "streets" in San Francisco that consist only of steps, because they're too steep:
I understand. I also understand that coastal topography is more gradual and uniform by rule. San Francisco's grid and large-scale urban density is simply not only the product of physical landform alteration... and even if it was, well... that's what's there now. The urban built environment in Pittsburgh is built on more rugged terrain (and I wouldn't think that undeveloped areas that happen to be within city limits would be considered when talking about 'city' topography.)

San Francisco -- incredible ranges punctuated by large flat areas


Pittsburgh -- constant, erratic elevation changes resulting from the countless rivers, creeks, and streams cutting through the terrain (and the flatter zone in the center is in large part a high plateau with some of the highest points in the city)






And I am familiar with the steps in SF -- I love the beautiful views that they offer. Pittsburgh also has plenty of "paper streets". Houses have street addresses, but their only street is a staircase. Pittsburgh has more vertical feet of urban steps than San Francisco, Portland, and Cincinnati combined.
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True, Pittsburgh takes the cake on this one. Aside from river bottoms you can't go far without going up or down a very large hill or ravine.

Cincinatti looks great. Really gotta go.

Seattle is somewhere between the SF approach and Pittsburgh approach. We have a lot of low hills (say 300-500') that have grids where possible, stairs in many places, and unbroken forest on many on their sides sometimes. Some locations are forested where SF would have dense urbanity.
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New York. A very different kind of city topographically and geographically. It has some hills, but they aren't the main attraction. There are great islands, like Manhattan and Long Island, and green rolling plains and swamp-like meadowlands, like Staten Island's Fresh Kills. The city's two rivers and the harbor led to its density and everything else is built around it. Upper Manhattan and the Bronx are pretty hilly and lead to the Hudson river valley just a few miles north with green hills and mountains that differentiate Upstate from the city. There are some areas in Manhattan like Inwood Hill Park that gives people a glimpse of the city before becoming the urban giant is it today. Like San Francisco, Manhattan and much of NYC was rugged and had many hills. The grid did lead to leveling hills and covering up creeks to make way for the buildings, but not of those are gone. Today, I feel that the skyscrapers and mass of buildings act as range of "mountains" and "hills", especially with Lower Manhattan as a sort of peak for the area for now. NYC is worthy of also being mentioned as a city with great topography and geography. It's one of those cities that not only fits into the natural surroundings it has, but also builds on it and becomes a man-made "geographical feature" all on its own.

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Washington Heights is the hilliest part of Manhattan, including the highest natural point of that island, at 265 ft on Bennet Park. Also, it has some step streets.


Washington Heights (Stone Marker, Bennett Park) por jag9889, en Flickr


Spring! Pinehurst Steps, Washington Heights NYC por Susan NYC, en Flickr


Washington Heights, from Fort Washington down to Overlook and Bennett and Broadway por Susan NYC, en Flickr


215th Street Stairs por Charlie O'Hay, en Flickr


L1025430 the Pinehurst steps por Susan NYC, en Flickr


2013_02_09_snowstorm-nyc_33 por dsearls, en Flickr


2013_02_09_snowstorm-nyc_42 por dsearls, en Flickr



NYC - Washington Heights: Fort Tryon Park por christiNYCa, en Flickr


The Pumpkin House, Washington Heights New York City por jag9889, en Flickr


Washington Heights, New York, NY, USA por MD111, en Flickr


washington heights, looking south por Susan NYC, en Flickr


washington heights from Fort Tryon Park por Susan NYC, en Flickr


Station in Washington Heights por Satori (of Zazoo & Satori), en Flickr


Washington Heights Cityscape in the Snow por unforth, en Flickr


NYC - Washington Heights por cerdsp, en Flickr


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The Cloisters, Fort Tryon Park (Washington Heights NYC) por jag9889, en Flickr


Washington Heights NYC (Fort Washington Park & Manhattan Skyline) por jag9889, en Flickr


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^^^ They don't call it Washington Heights for nothing. Really an unique neighborhood. Amazing photos.
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Washington DC. Not really a hilly city, at the core, except for a few like the Capitol's and the small one that the Washington Monument stands on. Arlington has a couple good ones like the National Cemetery's. DC has a few hills in its outer neighborhoods. However, the main geographically attraction to DC is its main river, which forms canals in the city and rigorous rapids in the other parts of the metro.

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A few more for Austin.

This is the Palisades West office building along Capital of Texas Highway in West Austin. At 1,009 feet above sea level it is the highest elevation highrise in Austin. By comparison, the Frost Bank Tower's block in downtown is at 484 feet above sea level. In fact, you're at a higher point above sea level standing at the main entrance of this building than you would be standing on top of the crown on the Frost Bank Tower. You can see this building from all over Austin. This building stands at a point that is actually about 700 feet higher than the lowest elevation in Austin.

Frost Bank Tower - 484 feet above sea level - 516 feet tall = 1,000 feet above sea level at top of building.

Palisades West - 1,009 feet above sea level - 117 feet tall = 1,126 feet above sea level.











The Pennybacker Bridge on Capital of Texas Highway (Loop 360).



























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Winston-Salem is in the Yadkin Valley American Viticultural Area; which is North Carolina's Wine Country (yes, the entire metro area is in the designated wine growing region) and the Winston-Salem area has very interesting topography. Of North Carolina's big six large cities, Winston-Salem has the roughest terrain.

Salisbury Ridge in the Acadia Neighborhood (This photograph appears to be 20 years old?):

Found Several Years Ago!

Salisbury Ridge is located where three waterways merge.

Looking into the Salem Valley:


Salem Valley is where the Salem and Bath waterways, along with the Tar River, merge. It has a few waterfalls in the valley.

The two expressways have cuts and elevated stretches. The expressway above transitions from a long bridge over a valley to a cut you see above and back to a bridge and back to a cut. Even with these cuts and bridges, it still has grades considered too steep by today's standards. Interstate 40 in Winston-Salem was built over a waterway, so it wouldn't have these problems. Something interesting to think about, next time you're on I-40. It also explains why the ridges rise up around it with no cuts.

West End Historic District:


Yes, there is another road up there (photograph above), with houses. You can see a rooftop up there. This was a vacation and summer resort, built by the railroads and invested-in by several major industrialists of the day. It advertised houses and hotels with mountain views and healing springs. With the road in the photograph above, you take a hard left turn and travel to the road atop the house-lined rock cliff in the photograph and then take a hard right turn to reach the houses above those. Take another hard left turn and you travel up the ridge toward a church and a 5 or 6 storey historic apartment building. It's worth it to go up there. The church was designed by famous architect Ralph Adams Cram, who said he had never seen such a perfect church site before. The back side of the church is twice is high as the front too.

Downtown's Former East Second Street Tunnel:

Credit: Winston-Salem / Forsyth County Library

Drivers would cross a bridge over a wide railroad valley and then enter a tunnel on Second Street in downtown Winston-Salem. The Innovation Quarter was on the other side of the tunnel. After leveling the area with the tunnel, it's still too steep to have a streetcar stop in that area. To build a streetcar downtown, parts of it will have dedicated ROW, due to the terrain issues downtown. In some places, they may have to cut into the streets.

Sauratown Mountains (Hanging Rock State Park) from the Konnoak Hills Neighborhood:

Credit: Angel Fuentes

Moore's Knob is the highest point in the Winston-Salem Metro Area and is visible in the photograph above.

When you leave the Winston-Salem City Limits, development drops-off quickly and you enter North Carolina's Wine Country. There are two vineyards right at the southwestern edge of the city limits. The Blue Ridge Parkway is in the bordering county of Surry. Surry's western border is the Blue Ridge Mountains.

Vineyards in Winston-Salem Metro Area:

Source: Visit NC

Hanging Rock State Park - The mountains in the background of the skyline photograph.

Source: Visit NC

The mountains on the north end of Winston-Salem's Metro Area feature many waterfalls, hiking/biking trails, rock climbing, a beach, cabins, and much more.


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Credit: Winston-Salem Journal

Wake Forest University and Pilot Mountain State Park:

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Toronto. It's not really hilly near the city center, but small ones are present in some neighborhoods.There are areas like Scarborough Bluffs in the outer parts. However, the most important geographical features are Lake Ontario and the natural areas in the city.

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Winston-Salem is in the Yadkin Valley American Viticultural Area; which is North Carolina's Wine Country (yes, the entire metro area is in the designated wine growing region) and the Winston-Salem area has very interesting topography. Of North Carolina's big six large cities, Winston-Salem has the roughest terrain.

Salisbury Ridge in the Acadia Neighborhood (This photograph appears to be 20 years old?):

Found Several Years Ago!

Salisbury Ridge is located where three waterways merge.


When you leave the Winston-Salem City Limits, development drops-off quickly and you enter North Carolina's Wine Country. There are two vineyards right at the southwestern edge of the city limits. The Blue Ridge Parkway is in the bordering county of Surry. Surry's western border is the Blue Ridge Mountains.

Vineyards in Winston-Salem Metro Area:

Source: Visit NC

Hanging Rock State Park - The mountains in the background of the skyline photograph.

Source: Visit NC

The mountains on the north end of Winston-Salem's Metro Area feature many waterfalls, hiking/biking trails, rock climbing, a beach, cabins, and much more.

Awesome. Didn't know NC had a wine country. The area seems to be a lot like Chattanooga, in which there is a lot of outdoor activities available.
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The City of Calgary covers a very large area, as a unicity, so there are a number of distinctive topographic features within city limits.

The first thing to note about Calgary is that the city is right at the boundary of the foothills and the prairie. The line runs right through the city, and the east side of the city is much, much flatter than the west side.

Downtown Calgary itself is located on a floodplain at the meeting of the Bow and Elbow rivers. Although not as steep or as high as the walls of the river valley which downtown Edmonton overlooks, Calgary's city centre is nonetheless surrounded by cliffs and bluffs. There are elevated spots where you can get a good look at the Calgary skyline from virtually any angle.


focus(ed) by DJHuber, on Flickrv

The most prominent feature in the city is undoubtedly Nose Hill, in the city's north. A city park which covers over 11.29 square kilometres (4.36 square miles), the hill rises several hundred feet over the 12 communities that ring it. Nose Hill has been left largely untouched, and access road and parking lots, and showcases natural grassland and coulees.


Untitled by Y^2, on Flickr

Other major (named) hills in the city include Signal Hill and Broadcast Hill. The city's far northwest is especially hilly. and you cannot see the downtown from the outskirts like you can in the far southeast.

In Calgary's deep south, you can find the opposite type of feature as Nose Hill -- Fish Creek Provincial Park. The valley, much more parkland than grassland, widens and narrows as it winds around suburban communities. Fish Creek covers about 13.56 square kilometres (5.23 square miles)


Late Summer in Fish Creek by djking, on Flickr

Finally, if you get bored of topography in the city, the mountains are about 45min-1hr to the west and the badlands are 1-1.5 hours to the east.


Lower Kananaskis Lake by RemotelyBoris, on Flickr


Dino Park Pano 1 by RemotelyBoris, on Flickr
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The topography is mostly of glacial-lacustrian clay except to the NW where there are some deposits of unconsolidated glacial till.

in other words...

It's flat.

Taken from an overpass


From an old landfill/park



But there is this, the cities' reason for existence:

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