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Old Posted Mar 20, 2018, 8:24 PM
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A large file was attached to the site plan today. There isn't much new info. But there are 340,000 sq. ft. of office space, and there are no underground parking levels.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=624248
Ok, can we at least require like 4 floors of sub-grade parking to 12 above grade?
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2018, 5:04 PM
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A large file was attached to the site plan today. There isn't much new info. But there are 340,000 sq. ft. of office space, and there are no underground parking levels.
I know this is a joint project between Riverside Resources, the land owner, and Cousins Properties, but I hope it's Cousins who develops the project. They did a good job on Colorado Tower. They spent the money to install ventilation and wrap all four sides of the parking levels in glass. Something Third + Shoal opted not to do.

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Old Posted Mar 21, 2018, 5:25 PM
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I know this is a joint project between Riverside Resources, the land owner, and Cousins Properties, but I hope it's Cousins who develops the project. They did a good job on Colorado Tower. They spent the money to install ventilation and wrap all four sides of the parking levels in glass. Something Third + Shoal opted not to do.

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If it's Cousins, It would be nice if they double the square footage and create a sister tower to Frost. A design that complements. Been saying for a long while we need a signature tower that is similar in some ways to Frost.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2018, 8:47 PM
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Nooooooooooooooooo, another office tower that's nearly half parking garage... Please at least get the building over 500ft again.
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Nooooooooooooooooo, another office tower that's nearly half parking garage... Please at least get the building over 500ft again.
I'm happy they at least appear to have glass all the way down, at least on the most visible sides.
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Nooooooooooooooooo, another office tower that's nearly half parking garage... Please at least get the building over 500ft again.
It'll be 445' which is about 50' taller than the nearby Colorado Tower so it'll probably seem taller than it really is.

Looks like the parking ratio is around 1 spot per every 500 sq ft of office space which is not crazy at all.


This is the building in Chicago that the article compares this layout to:
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Old Posted Apr 5, 2018, 3:25 PM
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I like that comparison, it'd be cool if they added some kind of similar detail to the top like in that Chicago building.
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Old Posted Apr 5, 2018, 4:29 PM
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It'll be 445' which is about 50' taller than the nearby Colorado Tower so it'll probably seem taller than it really is.

Looks like the parking ratio is around 1 spot per every 500 sq ft of office space which is not crazy at all.


This is the building in Chicago that the article compares this layout to:
I wouldn’t mind at all if the rendering completely copied the look of this building because it looks great! Just the problem then i’m Having with this building is why have 13 layers of parking above ground. Use that space for leasing and put the parking underground.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2018, 8:12 PM
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We have renderings, and elevations are also available in the link below the renderings. All the verbiage states that it will be 455', but the elevations show the 446' height. I think the verbiage is correct, and the elevations are not the most recent.






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Old Posted Jun 22, 2018, 8:21 PM
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Well. It's definitely a corporate office tower. lol

You know, the funny thing is, I used to think that residential buildings were ugly, but now I'm more a fan of them than of office towers.

I remember people weren't happy with the design of the taller residential tower that had been planned here, but I think that one was a better looking building, without even considering the height.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2018, 8:25 PM
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Well. It's definitely a corporate office tower. lol

You know, the funny thing is, I used to think that residential buildings were ugly, but now I'm more a fan of them than of office towers.

I remember people weren't happy with the design of the taller residential tower that had been planned here, but I think that one was a better looking building, without even considering the height.
I like this project at street level. But it's just another big but functional rectangle with no outstanding features.
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Yea this is just another bleh. You would think they would want to have some sort of unique feature which would set it apart. At least 3rd @ Colorado has a crown. I never got my hopes up to begin with and I still say I'll miss the current building.
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Old Posted Jun 22, 2018, 9:33 PM
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One big plus for this project is that the 14 levels of parking are incredibly well hidden.
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I asked several people what they thought of the design. Here are the results;

https://youtu.be/M3QYDtSbhrA
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2018, 1:47 AM
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I did better skyscraper design on my etch-a-sketch 40+ years ago; we’ve gone from a mildly interesting tallish tower to a shorter building with a design that could have been drawn by a 10 year old. Why did they even bother with the one tiny section that is notched? Oh well, at least now a low bar has been set.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2018, 2:20 AM
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I built something similar with my Girder and Panel building set back in the 70's.
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Old Posted Jun 23, 2018, 2:31 AM
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I built something similar with my Girder and Panel building set back in the 70's.
I had one of those. Much better than Legos and perfect for designing those mid-century high-rises


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It's alright, but I thought that crevice running up the side would be more pronounced based on what the elevations indicated. Something a little wider like the Chicago tower, which I actually really like. For some reason, those vertical lines on that Chicago tower have a sort of industrial feel, which would have been perfect for what was Austin's warehouse district.
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It looks great next to the Hobby building.
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