noirish Los Angeles - Page 2087

odinthor · #**41721** Posted **May 10, 2017, 3:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Rustifer

Not so much a problem with location shooting but rather scene continuity--How many times have you seen an actor with a glass of liquid that keeps changing filled levels after a camera shift and without the actor actually drinking. This also is common for lengths of cigarettes being smoked. Don't film editors notice this while processing, or do they think it just won't get noticed? Maybe they just don't care.

There's a school of thought that says, "If the audience is looking at the scenery/set/props, you're doing something wrong."

My school of thought is, "If the professionals you've hired are messing up, you've hired the wrong people."

Martin Pal · #**41722** Posted **May 10, 2017, 4:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

In the past week or so we saw some great motorcycle-centric snapshots
so I thought I'd look for a few items.

Here are a couple snapshots taken in front of the Bay District motorcycle dealership.
[...]

Across the street you may have noticed the giant green pickle!
It turns out that's an eating place called Pickle Bill's.
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How can you not love this thread? You go looking for Motorcycle Shops and discover Pickle Bill's!

Martin Pal · #**41723** Posted **May 10, 2017, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Yes, you beat me to it. Most odd, to decry one of a pair:

gsv

If it had been the 1971 heartbreaker we all still call the Carlsburg building (above and below), I would have been full of regret:

ziffrenlaw

Designed by Matlin and Dvoetsky. Originally covered in bronze glass, the building was artfully reclad by Barton Myers Associates.
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Am I correct in recalling that the reason the building got reclad in the first place was because of the 1994 earthquake?

Rustifer · #**41724** Posted **May 10, 2017, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by odinthor

There's a school of thought that says, "If the audience is looking at the scenery/set/props, you're doing something wrong."

My school of thought is, "If the professionals you've hired are messing up, you've hired the wrong people."

Exactly.

tovangar2 · #**41725** Posted **May 10, 2017, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Am I correct in recalling that the reason the building got reclad in the first place was because of the 1994 earthquake?

I don't know. The Barton Myers write-up doesn't give a reason except to say they were "engaged to renovate the building so that it read as an entirely new structure" (the work was done in '96). It's still totally recognizable, but was brought out of the 70s and made into something light, airy and new. I miss that green lit "Carlsberg" sign at the top though. Seeing that meant we were almost home. The structure still functions as a gateway to the neighborhood, signaling that one is past all the Beverly Hills/ Century City nonsense.

HossC · #**41726** Posted **May 10, 2017, 7:00 PM**

Here's today's Julius Shulman post. It's "Job 1490: Pereira & Luckman, Western Geophysical Co. of America, 1953". I'm intrigued by "Research Laboratories & Shops" above the door.

The other shot shows the whole front of the building.

Both from Getty Research Institute

The 1956 CD lists the Western Geophysical Co lab & shops at 923 N La Brea Avenue. The March 2014 image (below) shows the building intact and in the hands of Mole-Richardson, a stage lighting company founded in 1927.

GSV

Like the Citibank building at Wilshire and La Cienega from a few days ago, we've only just lost this well-preserved building. The GSV image from later in 2014 shows the building being demolished. It looks like the replacement was completed very recently.

GSV

Mole-Richardson also occupied the old ModernCraft Laundry building across the street. The tragic demise of that building was covered here in 2014 - Beaudry's post #22011 was the first one I found. The developers were quick to knock down the Morgan, Walls & Clements structure, but the site is still empty. Here's a 2011 reminder of what was lost.

GSV

Flyingwedge · #**41727** Posted **May 10, 2017, 7:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

After one gets back from the commercial strip there are many very pretty blocks of homes in all directions. I checked out some closest to the intersection, but could not find the Rust home. The Rust place is described as a "ranch" in what I've read, so it's not going to be a house on an ordinary lot. Also read that his family ran the nursery he started for 60 years. There must be pix:

discovernikkei

We've encountered H. N. Rust's son, E. H. Rust, before. He had a palm nursery at 11th and Flower:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

http://www.bigmapblog.com/2013/birds...angeles-calif/

He is also likely the Rust who supplied trees and shrubs for the Giroux Estate in Hollywood:

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Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

January 14, 1912, LA Times @ ProQuest via LAPL

tovangar2 · #**41728** Posted **May 10, 2017, 8:29 PM**

I remember that post Flyingwedge. It was terrific. Roehrigs certainly get no respect. They're often torn down without a thought

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Originally Posted by HossC

The developers were quick to knock down the Morgan, Walls & Clements structure, but the site is still empty.

"Erased de Kooning Drawing, Robert Rauschenberg, 1953"

https://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/98.298

"Some considered the destruction of a de Kooning drawing to be an act of vandalism; others recognized the concept of Rauschenberg's new work."
- wiki

Maybe we just don't get it? Of course the difference between Rauschenberg and the developers is that Rauschenberg only did it once. There aren't museums full of destroyed artwork for us to admire and ponder over.

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BifRayRock · #**41729** Posted **May 10, 2017, 9:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

The Gas House (demolished in '62), and many of the characters pictured below, is discussed in this article: The Gas House: Beatniks vs. Neatniks and the Battle for Venice Beach's Soul." https://www.kcet.org/history-society...ce-beachs-soul

http://www.gstatic.com/hostedimg/335a71714a250213_large

More Venice

1914 - Windward Avenue, Hotel Omar. 1607 Trolleyway (now Pacific Ave.)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/14731
http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/single...coll2/id/14732

ethereal_reality · #**41730** Posted **May 10, 2017, 10:00 PM**

BRR, there's enough in that ONE post for 4 or 5 posts.

I feel many of the fine photographs you posted deserve discussion, but will be overlooked because it's all so overwhelming.

Just my opinion.

ethereal_reality · #**41731** Posted **May 10, 2017, 10:18 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

We've encountered H. N. Rust's son, E. H. Rust, before. He had a palm nursery at 11th and Flower.

He is also likely the Rust who supplied trees and shrubs for the Giroux Estate in Hollywood:

Oh my, I had forgotten all about that palm nursery Flyingwedge. -appreciate the reminder

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t2, thanks for checking out the former location of Horatio Rust's former estate.

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Originally Posted by tovangar2

Monterey Road and Fair Oaks Blvd, South Pasadena:

google

not exactly what I was hoping for.

I think I'll gas up the google-mobile and try to find at least one bush. (and it doesn't have to be Gold of Ophir

)

ethereal_reality · #**41732** Posted **May 10, 2017, 10:34 PM**

Let me return briefly to 'Bay District Motorcycles'.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aWWlul47h6...black+prince+3

Take a look at this very cool lighter/keychain. (Jack Baldwin owned Bay District Motorcycles)

http://www.antiquesnavigator.com/d-2...in-50s-la.html

It sold for $31

Although...the address on the lighter is slightly different. 2705 on the lighter...2703 on the decal below.

http://socalvoc.com/wp-content/uploa...yDistrict.jpeg

tovangar2 · #**41733** Posted **May 10, 2017, 10:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

t2, thanks for checking out the former location of Horatio Rust's former estate.

I think I'll gas up the google-mobile and try to find at least one bush. (and it doesn't have to be Gold of Ophir

)

The SW corner is where the Pavilions is now (the map's turned around). I couldn't find a thing I could connect with HN Rust, but good luck :-)

ethereal_reality · #**41734** Posted **May 10, 2017, 10:58 PM**

Thanks t2

Here's an impressive photograph I found a few days ago on etsy. (I believe we've seen a similar view on NLA, but not this particular photo)

"1950s Long Beach California"

https://www.etsy.com/listing/5135744...=sr_gallery_31

It looks like it was taken after a rain. I spy a sailor on the corner. (is that you CBD?)

And what's that above the Parking entrance on the right? the only thing that comes to mind is two chevrons.
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HossC · #**41735** Posted **May 10, 2017, 11:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

BRR, there's enough in that ONE post for 4 or 5 posts.

I feel many of the fine photographs you posted deserve discussion, but will be overlooked because it's all so overwhelming.

Just my opinion.

I completely agree. Great pictures, but too many at once. I made it 32 plus the one in the quote. Spread them over a few posts and at least a couple of days so we can enjoy them all!

I've just worked through most of them, and many are still standing. Here's a selection.

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Alta Vista Apartments , 704 Trolleyway (now Pacific Ave.) ~1929 (per source)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20105

Modified, but recognizable.

GSV

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Brookside Apartments, 20 Brooks Ave, ~1931 (per source)

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20114

This one was probably the biggest surprise to find intact.

GSV

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock

The Walters, 14 Wavecrest Avenue

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20135

Another building that's been modified, but the windows along the street match up.

GSV

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

Winn Apartments, 417 Ocean Front Walk

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20138

All of the Ocean Front Walk locations are difficult to compare because the Googlemobile doesn't go there. Instead, you're at the mercy of amateur pictures taken from the beach. On the right, the Winn apartments now have a mural down the side. On the left is where the Montezuma Apartments were - I'm not sure if it's the same building. On the far left, the Hotel Cadillac is still standing.

GSV

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

El Dorado Apartments, 21 Westminster Avenue

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/compou...coll2/id/20123

Now covered with ivy, the details can still be seen.

GSV

HossC · #**41736** Posted **May 10, 2017, 11:21 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's an impressive photograph I found a few days ago on etsy. (I believe we've seen a similar view on NLA, but not this particular photo)

"1950s Long Beach California"

https://www.etsy.com/listing/5135744...=sr_gallery_31

Here's a 1955 aerial view of Long Beach that I found recently. I think it's also new to the thread.

eBay

ethereal_reality · #**41737** Posted **May 10, 2017, 11:22 PM**

Remember the slides of the 'Little Country Church' from earlier this week?

The seller on ebay also offered these slides.

'Silk Stockings' is showing at the Pantages

Park LaBrea in the 1950s.

Look! Gold of Ophir roses!

The last two slides show two modernist homes.

It appears the garage was a later addition. (it doesn't have the same aesthetic as the home)

Does anyone recognize these homes?

Hoss might have already taken us on a tour of them via his Julius Shulman photographs.
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I'm kidding about the Gold of Ophir roses.

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rbpjr · #**41738** Posted **May 10, 2017, 11:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I had to write the text of the Morley's postcard here, in case anyone didn't look at it, it's rather poignant.

Dear (Former Pal
but ala[s] strangers
now) I'm still on
earth (sometimes)
and would like
a letter much.
Love
[.?.]

Those parts I can't read are because of the watermark.
The name at the close might be Lois or Doris or Boris...?

Lake Street house is still there...for sale...asking price almost 3 million dollars...states house was built in 1900...wonder what it cost to build in 1900?

odinthor · #**41739** Posted **May 10, 2017, 11:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

[...]
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I was kidding about the Gold of Ophir roses.

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odinthor collection

tovangar2 · #**41740** Posted **May 11, 2017, 12:08 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Here's an impressive photograph I found a few days ago on etsy. (I believe we've seen a similar view on NLA, but not this particular photo)

"1950s Long Beach California"

https://www.etsy.com/listing/5135744...=sr_gallery_31

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Thank you for this one. The way the shoreline changed in Long Beach, especially as regards the Ocean Center building, is a discomforting amazement. One used to step from it directly onto the sand. I'm always half-convinced that the building blew inland. Most disorienting:

google maps