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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 5:53 PM
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LOL.

"I believe every cemetery in populated sections of Los Angeles should be closed and the bodies disinterred and removed to sections where they will remain forever undisturbed."

So... let's dig up these bodies from resting places where they were meant to lie undisturbed forever, and move them somewhere else... where they are meant to lie undisturbed forever. We really mean it this time. Because there's no chance that the city will continue to grow and the next place we put them might one day become valuable, you know, just like the first place we put them.

How hilariously myopic and sad.
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"It's about the water."

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... and now the owners are the controversial Resnicks of Pom juice and Fiji water (totally not "green", no matter how they spin it) notoriety. Opinions on the current chatelaine vary, but perhaps so they did of Marie Antoinette of a previous Petit Trianon. (I bet Marie, for all her cluelessness, was less full of herself.) Anyway, I'm sure the windows are never opened, so traffic noise isn't a problem. The Resnicks apparently spent a fortune replicating the original fence--though it doesn't look quite the same to me--and bringing it out to Sunset. But then we have the great leveler... garbage. Just like the humblest bungalow elsewhere in town, the grander than grand Resnicks have to put up with wheelybins in front of the house.

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It's a tad more complex now and the crooks are more clever and working on a bigger scale, but remember Jake, it's still Chinatown...

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1931 - Mission Hosiery Mills, 3746 Moneta Avenue (37th Place and Moneta Ave)

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Here's what that corner looks like today, via Google Street View:


Only now Moneta is called Broadway Place. I'm not sure when the name of the street changed; 1950s, maybe?

It looks like the same streetlamp on the corner. I doubt that's the same utility pole, though, but where it's placed looks very close to the same spot.
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Potter Park Drive and the "Phantoms"

Thank you so much FlyingWedge for the great post. I like the look of the Parkinson building, that was a loss, now replaced by rubbish. And of course that's Abigail Stark's little house pictured just to the north of the Flower Street First Baptist church:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11101

And thx too to FredH and GaylordWilshire for the background on the "Phantoms". I knew Cathedral High was built on a graveyard, but not the whole story.

Really interesting posts.


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Some of you may remember that Cathedral High almost got disinterred too:
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-12-...chool-graduate

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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 6:46 PM
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Fanastic post on the Potter Park Street area Flyingwedge!
I had no idea the Beck Hotel/Apts used to be The Schermerhorn. Good detective work.

The Brownstein-Louis building had a couple impressive skylights. I would love to see those two atriums.


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Hopefully we uncover interior views of the Brownstein-Louis building someday.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 6:51 PM
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Here's what that corner looks like today, via Google Street View:


Only now Moneta is called Broadway Place. I'm not sure when the name of the street changed; 1950s, maybe?

It looks like the same streetlamp on the corner. I doubt that's the same utility pole, though, but where it's placed looks very close to the same spot.


What could have been?

1931 - Proposal. Different configuration suggests different address.

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Another fascinating Sock shop is Theme in Glendale. (San Fernando Road and Fletcher Drive) According to notes, it became a parochial school in the '60s.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 6:52 PM
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More on Theme. Notes and Photos from http://www.lagenealogy.com/themehosieryphotos.htm





Wonder if anyone was wearing Mission Hills' reinforced toe?










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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 6:57 PM
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Here's a Theme Hosiery Co. building before and after Godzilla. The basic form is still there...but nothing else,
and the color scheme is green and red...arrrgh.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2661

an interesting comment on the Ribet Academy (in the old Theme building) by sopas_ej here

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2667

I love the Mission Hosiery illustration Godzilla. -great find.
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The Temple/Pico mausoleum at the El Camp Santo Cemetery, City of Industry










Photo source and more info on El Campo Santo: http://homesteadmuseum.org/ElCampoSanto


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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 7:37 PM
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Check out the 1936 Studebaker President and Dictator Coupes with the batwing rear window. One was shown in a 1937/8 photo of Wilshire Boulevard, but unfortunately I can not now find the post.

Had never heard of these until reading this blog. Very cool looking.

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It was the Studebaker Starlight, Champion and Commander (below) that we thought were cool as kids, b/c we thought they looked like rocket ships. These were the ones later used on Max Headroom: Twenty Minutes Into the Future (1987-88):



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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 7:38 PM
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I was cruising around Baist's 1921 Real Estate Atlas (thank you ProphetM) and I came across this cemetery on
North Broadway next to the Southern Pacific Rail Yard.


www.historicmapworks.com


I found these photographs on an old cd of mine. Most of the images on the disk were from calisphere so I'm guessing these were too.

"The Workmen Monument in the old Catholic Cemetery of the Pueblo Los Angeles on North Broadway." Shown in 1925 shortly before the cemetery's desecration.


http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/

Note the makeshift wood & chicken-wire fence. (and the severe ground erosion at right)





below: The overgrown old Calvary Cemetery on North Broadway in 1920.

http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/





below: The Pico Family Tomb in the old Calvary Cemetery on North Broadway.


http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/



below: The old Calvary Cemetery in complete disrepair, date unknown.


http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/

I can easily visualize the three boys desecrating the tomb of Capt. Bell in 1921.

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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 7:41 PM
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Still in a Rosslyn state of mind, I thought I'd post a few more articles and photos.

The Rosslyn underwent many expansions and changes over the years. At one point I think 7 stories were added, then destroyed by fire, and then removed. Anyway, here's an 1917 article about the major early expansion, which made it the 4th largest hotel in the world. This is the original Rosslyn location on Main between 4th and 5th.


http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

While preparing for my visit yesterday I was surprised by the number of suicides, murders, and other crimes that I found. I guess it makes sense though, since the place was around for about a century and had 1100 rooms at its peak.

On December 16, 1906 a "rich madman" brandishing 2 revolvers robbed the desk clerk.


http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

The first documented suicide seems to have taken place in 1912. From the L.A. Times, dated December 10, 1912.


http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124

A man jumped from the roof in 1920. Looks like the expansion discussed in the 1917 Times story had not begun yet. I think the graphic was posted here long ago, but not the L.A. Times story.


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...G-ROS-002?v=hr


http://search.proquest.com/hnplatime...ccountid=11124
Thought this had been seen before, but seems missing.

1917 - Main Street looking north. Mighty big Rosslyn sign.

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Brownstein-Louis building

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Fanastic post on the Potter Park Street area Flyingwedge!

The Brownstein-Louis building had a couple impressive skylights. I would love to see those two atriums.


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A little background on the Brownstein-Louis Building (not to be confused with the other Brownstein-Louis building on Los Angeles St):
http://urbandiachrony.wordpress.com/...-st-1929-2011/
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Here's a Theme Hosiery Co. building before and after Godzilla. The basic form is still there...but nothing else,
and the color scheme is green and red...arrrgh.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2661

an interesting comment on the Ribet Academy (in the old Theme building) by sopas_ej here

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=2667

1959 - Theme building and environs




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Cinnamon rolls smell pretty good right now.

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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 8:24 PM
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Pio Pico

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below: The Pico Family Tomb in the old Calvary Cemetery on North Broadway.


http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/
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Thank you so much for the terrific pix e_r. I was curious to see the original iron tomb:



More:
http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/02.01.html
http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/t...f0ed1c0d3.html
http://www.kcet.org/updaily/socal_fo...your-dead.html


More great pix:

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073986.jpg

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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 9:08 PM
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Another small gem of a lost downtown building is the Maddux Air Lines ticket office, which once stood at 636 S. Olive, near the 7th Street Silverwoods, on the site of what is now a parking lot:

http://www.nileguide.com/destination...HARRIS_SUN.jpg
Sun Realty Bulding, 629 S. Hill St., 1930. It's by Claude Beelman, who also did the Union Oil Building recently discussed. It seems that all design in L.A. in this period is interconnected, and very local.









All from CalStLib




1920 - Harris and Frank do Broadway








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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 10:06 PM
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According to David Gebhard and Robert Winter in Guide to Architecture in Los Angeles in Southern California 5401 Wilshire was originally a Spanish Colonial Revival Building from the 20s. (I've spent way too much time over the years staring at the filigree-embossed chimney pot at the apex of the tower tying to figure it out.) They list Marcus P Miller as the architect for the 30s remodel as opposed to Anderson & Norstrom listed by the you-are-here web site. I don't know which is correct.

I always thought the deep recess high on the Wilshire facade may have originally been a window.


I can't make out the sign in this highly airbrushed and colored view:

Werner von Boltenstern Postcard Collection, Department of Archives and Special Collections, Loyola Marymount University Library


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Attributed date is 1952. I think the sign reads "Bank of America."



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http://www.plummersearch.com/blog/wp...er-Siegel1.jpg
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2013, 10:27 PM
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tovanger2, I hope you don't mind if I post a couple items from the links you provided.
(sometimes people skip the outside links)


Absolutely horrible what was done with Maria Ygnacia Pico's remains. Truly sad.


http://www.ladowntownnews.com/news/t...f0ed1c0d3.html

I was trying to visualize Andres Briswalter's extravagant tomb when I realized it was pictured in one of the other links T2 provided.
No wonder they took to calling it a chapel!



http://www.ulwaf.com/LA-1900s/02.01.html
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Here's another photograph of the old Calvary Cemetery, this time with a spirit ascending to heaven.


http://www.calisphere.universityofcalifornia.edu/
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1910 - Huntington Beach is populated with campers and their tents. One of the photos is labeled: "The Dream of Summer." "Winnifred don't forget Theodosia's smelling salts!"











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