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Old Posted Jan 3, 2020, 12:46 PM
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Went to Paris over the holidays and was pleasantly surprised with La Defense. It's looks really great in a lot of places. Also, all the new infill in the city that I saw seemed to be very well done as well.
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Old Posted Jan 4, 2020, 11:54 PM
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They are ruining the look of this 1998 little tower on behalf of office competitiveness and cladding efficiency in la Défense.



Sample of the new, efficient, super utilitarian façade...



Here we go, more black and white, while the brownish granite stone with these blackish windows have always been a cool change over the district.
Good Lord, it will be boring as hell over here.
I'm sorry about losing that granite façade.



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Granite is yet a smart outdoor material in that it kinda looks as cool as marble, but it is more resistant.
It's like every office building has to be upgraded over the district, up to a whole bunch of mid-rises.
That one looks cool, for instance.



Chrispic spends his time between Montpellier (definitely his hometown) and Paris (most likely due to his job duties, beside fun), and reviewed some of it for the holidays.
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2020, 12:35 PM
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Tourism news, the City is advertising their plan to reshape and enhance public realm over the Champs-Élysées area, that goes from the Concorde square to the Arc de Triomphe.



It mostly consists in stealing a lot of room from cars to give it back to pedestrians and bikes, so the overall public space feels more balanced and friendly.
Of course, you'll hear motorists grumble at this plan, as usual these days, but they need to realize that their cars have monopolized most (if not downright all) of the room in the streets since the 1960s, which is backward. It's only fair to rebalance public spaces in that matter.

I just read a comment by ZeusUpsistos on the French forum, who went to the Pavillon de l'Arsenal for a related exhibition to expose the plan in further details to the public.
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Au delà de ce qui a été dit, plein de propositions que j'ai trouvé vraiment très intéressantes, des sols moins bruyants et permettant de limiter la chaleur dégagée, le traitement des allées en fonction de l'ensoleillement, une végétation adaptée au climat, etc.
Et ce que j'aime beaucoup, au delà évidemment de la réduction drastique des voies de circulation sur l'avenue et du réaménagement des places, c'est la piétonnisation de l'avenue W. Churchill entre le Grand et Petit Palais ainsi que le pont Alexandre III permettant la continuité avec la rive gauche et les Invalides, un peu de la même manière que le projet du Champs de Mars, et également la couverture du Cours la Reine pour lui rendre entièrement son usage de promenade le long de la Seine.
So they'd be considering a change in materials for the pavement everywhere (sidewalks, car and bike lanes), as seen in their CGI video. The ground doesn't look like this at all for now.
The problem is heat waves are more and more frequent in the summer. It can be as hot as in Houston, Texas over here nowadays, well in the 100s Fahrenheit degrees. Thereby, they're studying some pavement that wouldn't seize too much heat while exposed to the sun, so it doesn't release it at night (which is hellish and forces people to rush on air conditioners).
More greenery should also help walkers / strollers stand heat waves. I see they're planning to plant more trees around the Concorde square for instance, which certainly won't hurt.

They're also planning to entirely pedestrianize the W. Churchill avenue, that's where the Grand and Petit Palais sit (some buildings meant for art exhibitions; see 2:10 in the video).
Once again, get ready for growling motorists who'll call it some shocking socialist policy / tyranny intended to merely ban cars from the central city, while the Churchill ave is only very short anyway, so pedestrianizing it doesn't seem such a big deal to me.
I don't know what's exactly planned for the Alexandre III bridge that's in the extension of that short avenue. Maybe keeping a couple of car lanes over the bridge would be wise, though.

Otherwise, the video shows some playgrounds meant for little kids and cafés that don't exist yet in the Champs-Élysées garden.

That's just about it. Notice that the municipal election is next month, so this is some way for the current city administration to tell the people - vote for us, then we'll do this thing.
I don't know what center-right candidate Rachida Dati has been planning in that matter. Hopefully, she wouldn't mess it all up on behalf of annoying motorist freedom if she happened to be elected.
That'd be pretty idiotic from her to cancel that plan. Pedestrians and bikes are entitled to freedom too, huh.
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^ That looks ambitious... and really expensive.
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There's plenty of money in this city anyway. Don't worry too much about the cost, they can easily afford it. Especially when municipal taxes have been low within Central Paris. Nothing to do with taxes that some impoverished suburbs have had to pay to sustain their municipal far-left policies.

They wouldn't even need any help from the national administration. The Île-de-France region might have to pay for some of the work, but I think it's worth it given the strategic significance of the ultra touristy area for our entire region.
It simply draws millions of tourists from all over the world every year, so yeah, it's worth the effort for us all over here.

In fact, my main concern is the disturbance due to the massive work that this plan would involve. People who live over the area, whether rich or not might say - oh my gosh, this will take years of messy construction all over my hood! No way!

If this thing was to actually be implemented, I guarantee some bad headaches to construction engineers who'll be required to not excessively disturb local dwellers.
It's going to be some tough mission for them. But it's exciting at the same time. When you're a passionate engineer, working on such a thing means a lot of fun and prestige.
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Speaking of the Champs-Élysées, Nike set a new record in Paris by purchasing this Art Deco building for €613 mi on the avenue.


http://www.leparisien.fr/paris-75/av...19-8165607.php

The deal was apparently officially made in last October, so this is some kind of old news that I'd missed.
They purchased it from Groupama, a French insurance company.

A record because the building is not even really large, of an area of 7700 m2 (~83k sq ft), which means it would've sold for €79,610 per square meter, or roughly US$ 8000 per square foot.

It is located on the busiest segment of the avenue, which in turn would be the most visited in Europe (100 million visitors a year). That would explain the insane price Nike had to pay for it.
They're planning to make their European flagship store of it. Groupama says they had to refurbish it for €80 mi to sell it to Nike; that was probably some part of their deal.

Google Street View shows the building while it was being refurbished if you're curious.

https://goo.gl/maps/jrsx6xTfVQVP6W498

Guess it's a decent building, but I honestly find it rather random over here. It is nonetheless registered in the historic heritage; possibly as an early Deco building or something.
I suppose architects would appreciate its historic significance much better than I can.

What makes it outstanding is obviously the prime location anyway. Again, this avenue has just always been ultra touristy and busy.
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This new thing on rue de Charenton, 12th arrondissement is called "Institut de l'Audition" (Hearing Institute).















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It's a research center to study deafness and find better solutions for the hard-of-hearing. So there's a labotary in there.
Their façade reminds of a "diffuseur acoustique", some kind of materials used for acoustic diffusion.
Stylish. And definitely some fun to photographers indeed.
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^ Love it!
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^ Thanks. Rue de Charenton is actually still so so. It is a rather long street with both some pretty buildings and some below average and some grit.
So I think there's quite a few opportunities to try some new things by tearing down what's not so good.
You'll probably be interested in this brick for instance.













Still by ZeusUpsistos, still in the same thread of pass-archi.eu.

Don't ask me what this kind of brick could be. Some sort of better precast? I have no idea.
It just looks like some good work.
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Yeah, I dig that too. I don't dig the window shades, as they make it look more Brutalist than I think it was intended to be, but I do like the brickwork, the inset bricks, and the rounded corners in particular. It looks both modern and like it's been there for 500 years.
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I've had a problem with their narrow windows too. I think it is caused by regulations supposed to save heat for the colder seasons (November to March over here).

They don't like people to use power for heating or cooling. They think these things should all be regulated by buildings themselves.

These narrow windows came from LED light bulbs. It is much more economical, and above that environmentally-friendly to turn on your indoor lights than enjoying natural daylight these days.

That said, architects should stick to engineers when they talk about orientation. Windows oriented to south have nothing much to do with north.

Also, keep in mind that this urban setting is very dense, so there is some close vis-à-vis. And you don't necessarily want your neighbors across the street to watch you cooking some dish for your wife.

There is just quite a couple of things to think about when it comes to those windows.
Triple glazed windows are obviously more efficient, but it costs a lot to spread them all over these thousands of buildings.
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