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Looks like a space research facility...
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Such a shame the high line, which is turning into one of the best the best galleries of architecture in the entire city, has this giant POS at its base.
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Such a shame the high line, which is turning into one of the best the best galleries of architecture in the entire city, has this giant POS at its base.
It is an odd thing to have. To think this is the same architect that designed the Shard in London. Ouch. Obviously not one of his most inspired moments when he lifted the pen on this jumbled industrial mess. It's supposed to be edgy and artsy, yet it comes across as clunky and horrid. I only like one angle, the rest are all over the place.
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yeah its a mess, but i do like the cladding around it. the workers did a great job.

and i agree it absolutely looks like some kind of nasa research facility, not a museum.

what's funny is that this is the same kind of remarks people have thrown at the old whitney. they sure know how to get under people's skin via just building a building lol!
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I think it's not just a way to attract attention, by putting up a shallow edifice to 'being different, being daring'. There is a deeper purpose at play here. They are trying to make people think about what is beauty, how we look at beauty and judge it while getting us to open our minds that jumbled forms that may appear ugly on a superficial level can ultimately have more beauty as they require more mental work, hence ultimate appreciation. It's like when you try to understand a really difficult peice of music, at first it's awful then after about 5 listens you find it fare more 'beautiful' than any accessible pop song that is considered 'pretty at first listen', so to speak.
They are trying to change notions of idealism and symmetry and that could relate to people too since many write off those with less than perfect faces and the unhealthy obession with perfection that is symbolized by photoshopped models on magazine covers today in this highly image focused world. This all leads to pretty unhealthy behaviors with people. Just as people, beauty in cities is idealized, and pure beauty can even be a cancer that envades cities, locking them into a set form that is unchanging hence less dynamic cities, cities that are forced to exist as mere tourist museum cash-cows for the most part because people won't budge from their preset views on beauty and their need to preserve this ideal-- we see this in a few old european cities.

That said, it's still a POS and has ultimately failed as a visual entity. HAHA This is where contextualism makes no sense to me. He's trying to be industrial to fit in to the meatpacking district, but he won't settle for building something that fits-in, ie, brick, brown, old. This ends up being the worst of both worlds. A modern more gracious design that looks different (i.e, not inspired by the surroundings) would have been ultimately better as the average joe who is not inclined to 'think about architecture long than a quick "that's ugly, that's pretty", will have no interest in this building, writing it off as something "what were they thinking", and not in a spectacularly weird way that coffee-table travel books will highlight as a place to visit before you die. This is not the Bilbao gallery, or the one in Austria where weirdness is enough to get the write ups and money-shots in the 50 best places to visit books, this one is just a 'too many cooks' scenario and won't end up being a memorable building.

So yeah, it's a clunky way to end the highline for sure. It's sad because something far cooler could have been build if they weren't going for for trying to fit in to this edgy take on old industrial styles and making people 'think' which will ultimately fail, because people don't think that much about buildings outside a tiny percentage. As a 'look at me I'm a rebel' building it's a failure because it tried to fit in to a scheme from the past (meat packing style) by taking elements of warehouses and factories, hence it has already failed to be unique anyway.

Contexntualism has its place, but not when you're trying to make a statement as an art galleriy devoted to changing people's perceptions and altering how they see.

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http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...ys-culture-biz

Building boom lifts city's culture biz
Nearly $2 billion in museum expansions are underway or planned.



BY THERESA AGOVINO
NOVEMBER 24, 2014


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Even the pens handed to visitors will be cutting-edge when the Cooper Hewitt, Smithsonian Design Museum reopens next month. Visitors can use the tech tools to draw shapes on special tables, and then see museum objects with a similar motif. The device will enable interior-design wannabes to create wallpaper patterns that are projected onto large screens. And with a tap on an exhibit's label, the slender stylus records information about the display that can be downloaded to a computer.

The last function might come in especially handy. After its three-year, $81.3 million renovation, the Cooper Hewitt has 60% more exhibit space, so there will be much more to explore for the 300,000 visitors it hopes to attract.

"Everything has been redone from A to Z," said Caroline Baumann, the museum's director. "We really wanted people to be able to see the collection."

"If you build it, they will come" has become the mantra of many New York City cultural executives during the past few years. After one major museum expansion last year, there are at least six other additions either near completion, underway or planned. Plus, two new major cultural institutions are on deck. Already close to $1 billion has been spent on ventures that are either finished or nearing completion. A similar price tag for the projects that aren't as far along can be expected.

The Whitney Museum of American Art will debut its new $760 million downtown building early next year, which almost triples the size of its former Madison Avenue home. The Metropolitan Museum of Art is taking over the 85,000-square-foot former Whitney building and plans to start showcasing its modern and contemporary collection there in 2016.

Meanwhile, the Museum of Modern Art plans to gain 40,000 square feet of gallery space through an expansion on the site of what was once the American Folk Art Museum. The latter institution is now located on the Upper West Side at 2 Lincoln Square and, according to published reports, plans to open a 17,000-square-foot Queens annex next year that will be used primarily for storage but will also feature a 2,000-square-foot gallery.

And by the end of 2015, the Lower East Side Tenement Museum is slated to begin an $8.5 million construction project to add more exhibit space in the building it acquired seven years ago for $7 million. Last year, the Queens Museum doubled in size, to 105,000 square feet, in a $68 million expansion.
More major renovations may be on the way. Earlier this year, the Frick Collection announced it wants to increase the space of its 180,000-square-foot Fifth Avenue mansion by about 25%. However, the mansion's landmark status means the Frick needs city approval to move forward, and there's been significant opposition to the plan.

Not all the new cultural space will be in the form of expansions. Daniel Doctoroff, former deputy mayor and soon-to-be ex-president and CEO of Bloomberg LP, is chairman of Culture Shed, a 170,000-square-foot, multipurpose space that has already received a $50 million appropriation from the city. Mr. Doctoroff is busy raising money and seeking an executive director for the project. Additionally, there are plans to construct a performing arts center at the World Trade Center, though it's unclear when that will happen. A Frank Gehry design with an estimated $400 million price tag was scuttled earlier this year.

Accommodating the increasing flow of visitors to the city is often cited by museum officials as a reason for the cultural construction boom. This year, a record 55.8 million tourists are expected, up 3% from last year. Museum directors say the great works their institutions possess should be displayed, not stored. In the Frick's case, Mr. Wardropper said, the desire to grow stems as much from a wish for more gallery space for its 320,000 annual visitors as a need to increase the size of its auditorium and add its first classrooms.
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A $20 million annex expansion of the landmarked Louis Armstrong House Museum, named for the famed jazz musician, is on the way after meeting zoning regulations.

Plans have been filed with the Buildings Department on Friday to construct the proposed educational visitors center on vacant land near the museum at 34-49 107th St. in Corona.

Design work on the new center dates as far back as 2007, but construction on the project was stalled due to a necessary variance application from the Board of Standards and Appeals (BSA).

The new two-story project needed approval for a waiver to be built closer to neighboring property lines than zoning laws allow.

The BSA gave the project the green light last year, following support from Community Board 3 and the borough president’s office. Now the project is in the construction phase, according to a representative.

The museum is hoping to build the new 8,737-square-foot annex, which is designed by architecture firm Caples Jefferson, for more exhibit space and a store to better accommodate the more than 12,000 visitors who come to the museum each year.

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^ that is good news -- the armstrong house annex has been a long time coming and i had all but forgotten about it.
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I think it's not just a way to attract attention, by putting up a shallow edifice to 'being different, being daring'. There is a deeper purpose at play here. They are trying to make people think about what is beauty, how we look at beauty and judge it while getting us to open our minds that jumbled forms that may appear ugly on a superficial level can ultimately have more beauty as they require more mental work, hence ultimate appreciation. It's like when you try to understand a really difficult peice of music, at first it's awful then after about 5 listens you find it fare more 'beautiful' than any accessible pop song that is considered 'pretty at first listen', so to speak.
They are trying to change notions of idealism and symmetry and that could relate to people too since many write off those with less than perfect faces and the unhealthy obession with perfection that is symbolized by photoshopped models on magazine covers today in this highly image focused world. This all leads to pretty unhealthy behaviors with people. Just as people, beauty in cities is idealized, and pure beauty can even be a cancer that envades cities, locking them into a set form that is unchanging hence less dynamic cities, cities that are forced to exist as mere tourist museum cash-cows for the most part because people won't budge from their preset views on beauty and their need to preserve this ideal-- we see this in a few old european cities.

That said, it's still a POS and has ultimately failed as a visual entity. HAHA This is where contextualism makes no sense to me. He's trying to be industrial to fit in to the meatpacking district, but he won't settle for building something that fits-in, ie, brick, brown, old. This ends up being the worst of both worlds. A modern more gracious design that looks different (i.e, not inspired by the surroundings) would have been ultimately better as the average joe who is not inclined to 'think about architecture long than a quick "that's ugly, that's pretty", will have no interest in this building, writing it off as something "what were they thinking", and not in a spectacularly weird way that coffee-table travel books will highlight as a place to visit before you die. This is not the Bilbao gallery, or the one in Austria where weirdness is enough to get the write ups and money-shots in the 50 best places to visit books, this one is just a 'too many cooks' scenario and won't end up being a memorable building.

So yeah, it's a clunky way to end the highline for sure. It's sad because something far cooler could have been build if they weren't going for for trying to fit in to this edgy take on old industrial styles and making people 'think' which will ultimately fail, because people don't think that much about buildings outside a tiny percentage. As a 'look at me I'm a rebel' building it's a failure because it tried to fit in to a scheme from the past (meat packing style) by taking elements of warehouses and factories, hence it has already failed to be unique anyway.

Contexntualism has its place, but not when you're trying to make a statement as an art galleriy devoted to changing people's perceptions and altering how they see.

i wonder if that might change a bit when the showy solar carve bldg and 860 washington st nearby are built?
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it does hv a few sexy angles!

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The Battle for the Frick: Can Thousands of Garden-Loving Activists Stop a Museum?



More about the plan and arguements against it via the community: http://observer.com/2015/04/the-batt...stop-a-museum/
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the new whitney looks ready to open may 1st










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sugar hill museum of arts and storytelling on the way

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a blurb about the new whitney museum in advance of its ribbon-cutting this friday, may 1st from artworld, which also describes plans for the old whitney:


Designed by architect Renzo Piano, the new building will include approximately 50,000 square feet of indoor galleries and 13,000 square feet of outdoor exhibition space and terraces facing the High Line. An expansive gallery for special exhibitions will be approximately 18,000 square feet in area, making it the largest column-free museum gallery in New York City. Additional exhibition space includes a lobby gallery (accessible free of charge), two floors for the permanent collection, and a special exhibitions gallery on the top floor.

According to Mr. Piano, "The design for the new museum emerges equally from a close study of the Whitney's needs and from a response to this remarkable site. We wanted to draw on its vitality and at the same time enhance its rich character. The first big gesture, then, is the cantilevered entrance, which transforms the area outside the building into a large, sheltered public space. At this gathering place beneath the High Line, visitors will see through the building entrance and the large windows on the west side to the Hudson River beyond. Here, all at once, you have the water, the park, the powerful industrial structures and the exciting mix of people, brought together and focused by this new building and the experience of art."

The dramatically cantilevered entrance along Gansevoort Street will shelter an 8,500-square-foot outdoor plaza or "largo," a public gathering space steps away from the southern entrance to the High Line. The building also will include an education center offering state-of-the-art classrooms; a multi-use black box theater for film, video, and performance with an adjacent outdoor gallery; a 170-seat theater with stunning views of the Hudson River; and a Works on Paper Study Center, Conservation Lab, and Library Reading Room. The classrooms, theater, and study center are all firsts for the Whitney.

A retail shop on the ground-floor level will contribute to the busy street life of the area. A ground-floor restaurant and top-floor cafe will be conceived and operated by renowned restaurateur Danny Meyer and his Union Square Hospitality Group, which operated +Untitled+, the restaurant in the Whitney's Marcel Breuer building on the Upper East Side, until programming there concluded on October 19.

Mr. Piano's design takes a strong and strikingly asymmetrical form-one that responds to the industrial character of the neighboring loft buildings and overhead railway while asserting a contemporary, sculptural presence. The upper stories of the building overlook the Hudson River on its west, and step back gracefully from the elevated High Line Park to its east.

After the opening of the new Whitney this spring, the Metropolitan Museum of Art plans to present exhibitions and educational programming at the Whitney's uptown building for a period of eight years, with the possibility of extending the agreement for a longer term.
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I'm sorry, but the exterior of the Whitney is laughably atrocious. Renzo Piano is an AMAZING architect with a stellar track record for museum design (his design for the Fondation Beyeler in Switzerland is sublime), but this is an utterly disjointed and disgusting exterior. The interiors and especially the galleries are excellent, and the views from the new Whitney are spectacular...but that outside is a filthy hot mess - even the New Museum is more visually cohesive than this garbage pile.
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file the whitney under completed - its open and the people are here!

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