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Old Posted Aug 9, 2014, 1:44 AM
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Here is a map from the Green Water Development marketing materials from 2010. Things have changed slightly since then (the footprints of the GW buildings, for example, are no longer curved) but the map is mostly correct with regard to existing buildings. I'm posting it because it shows the AECC site as well. The Green Water buildings are the blue areas, and the green dotted line outlines the "Second Street District".



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I believe the Green layout (overall design) has changed more than "slightly" since this was released! However, I will agree with regard to the existing buildings...yes...this is pretty accurate.
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Old Posted Aug 9, 2014, 2:52 AM
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I believe the Green layout (overall design) has changed more than "slightly" since this was released! However, I will agree with regard to the existing buildings...yes...this is pretty accurate.
Ha! That was a poor word choice, wasn't it? http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...10#post6516610
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Jude Galligan over at the DAB drew the tower on the aerial, below. The link to his blog post about it is here:

50+ Story Downtown Austin Tower Envisioned By Constructive Ventures
http://downtownaustinblog.org/2014/0...tive-ventures/


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Old Posted Aug 9, 2014, 3:19 AM
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That last rendering shows the parking lot bounded by 3rd, 4th, San Antonio and Guadalupe titled "AMoA". Are there plans to develop that godforsaken parking lot (into a museum)?? Everytime I pass by that lot I cringe...
About 4 or 5 years ago there was a 30-story glass office tower called "Museum Tower" that was planned for that block. Part of the development included a new home for the museum. It was said to be 420 feet tall.

When Stratus was bidding on the GreenWater redevelopment and showing the renderings of their proposals, they included the Museum Tower in with their plans. These are some of the renderings that were made public back then.

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About 4 or 5 years ago there was a 30-story glass office tower called "Museum Tower" that was planned for that block. Part of the development included a new home for the museum. It was said to be 420 feet tall.

When Stratus was bidding on the GreenWater redevelopment and showing the renderings of their proposals, they included the Museum Tower in with their plans. These are some of the renderings that were made public back then.

It wasn't my favorite at the time, but jeez that was the best. That giant red tower would've been so original....I get really nostalgic when I look that this proposal...The HEB, architecture, museum tower, etc.
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Going by what was reported it definitely looks like the tower will be set back on different levels so that could definitely enhance the height of the tower with smaller floor plates the higher uo it goes. I hope the glass color is something different than what we have been getting. This is still aways out so we could be talking about a 60 Plus floor tower when all is said and done.

Then again we won't know the future mentality of the city council either, I shutter to think what could happen with future proposals.
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Going by what was reported it definitely looks like the tower will be set back on different levels so that could definitely enhance the height of the tower with smaller floor plates the higher up it goes. I hope the glass color is something different than what we have been getting. This is still a ways out so we could be talking about a 60 Plus floor tower when all is said and done.

Then again we won't know the future mentality of the city council either, I shutter to think what could happen with future proposals.
Good points. That was worth repeating
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Going by what was reported it definitely looks like the tower will be set back on different levels so that could definitely enhance the height of the tower with smaller floor plates the higher up it goes. I hope the glass color is something different than what we have been getting. This is still a ways out so we could be talking about a 60 Plus floor tower when all is said and done.

Then again we won't know the future mentality of the city council either, I shutter to think what could happen with future proposals.
you're on to something there.
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Yeah I think the Statesman said they're planning on a 2015 Q4 groundbreaking.

I'm gonna make a point to be present at relevant council meetings but I'm hoping we can push through approval before the shift to 10-1.
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I've moved the candidate posts to the Austin elections and politics thread.

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Yeah I think the Statesman said they're planning on a 2015 Q4 groundbreaking.

I'm gonna make a point to be present at relevant council meetings but I'm hoping we can push through approval before the shift to 10-1.
This project does not need Council approval. The zoning was put in place before the RFP was issued. The entitlements allow unlimited height and almost 4 million square feet. The Master Development Agreement was approved almost 5 years ago.
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This project does not need Council approval. The zoning was put in place before the RFP was issued. The entitlements allow unlimited height and almost 4 million square feet. The Master Development Agreement was approved almost 5 years ago.
Good info. Thanks!
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This project does not need Council approval. The zoning was put in place before the RFP was issued. The entitlements allow unlimited height and almost 4 million square feet. The Master Development Agreement was approved almost 5 years ago.
I'm still gonna try to bug the council as much as I can after the shift to 10-1 regardless, but I'm getting off topic

Thanks for the info on that, and certainly a relief. I'm looking forward to this project, I want that frumpy old ECC building gone
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Block 23 remindes me of Hess Tower in Houston.


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Block 23 remindes me of Hess Tower in Houston.


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Hess Tower reminds me of Colorado Tower.
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I like Houston's Hess Tower much better than Austin's Colorado Tower.
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I like Houston's Hess Tower much better than Austin's Colorado Tower.
I give a slight edge to Houston Hess Tower. Both towers look great and can't wait to see Colorado Tower light up a night.
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