You asked, you got it!! Favela in Porto Alegre, southern Brazil!

[Trantor]

This is the favela Grande Cruzeiro do Sul, largest in Porto Alegre, next to Santa Teresa hill and the Claro Tower, in the south area of the city.

The pics were taken in 2004, by PortoImagem (SSC forumer) when he visited the Claro Tower. The quality is bad cuz they were taken with a conventional film machine and then scanned.

Before the pics, 4 GoogleEarth pics for better localization.


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4.The school from pic 5



The shantytown pics

5. The yellow building is the school


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Well, that was it!


But there is a bonus for the curious about poverty and violence in Brazil. Some strong pictures of bank robbers killed by police in Porto Alegre.

They had robbed a Itaú bank in Protásio Alves avenue and shot to ladies. The cops pursued them to Vila Bom Jesus (poor shanty) where fire was exchanged. 3 robbers were killed and 3 were wounded and arrested.

The robbers were using bullet proof vests. One of the robbers killed was a 19 yr old soldier (mandatory service in Brazil for every 18 yr old male, but 90% are released from duty because there are too many people) son of a cop.


Militar Cops (Civil Police in Brazil only does investigation, its ridiculous, maybe I will explain later) show the weapons aprehended from the bandits


Car from the cops turned into swiss cheese by the bandits!


Car used by bandits got over 30 shots






the robbed bank


strong images (dead and wonded bandits)
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thats it, hope you guys are happy!

[Trantor]

btw, this is the Claro Tower

[BnaBreaker]

lol, some of those photos were interesting. However, (and not to sound picky, but just to clarify) this isn't at all what anyone "asked" to see. Noone said "I want to see flavellas and crime because that is the real brazil". All that was said was 'let's see something more than a Maserati and a gated community straight outta Scottsdale, AZ'.

[crisp444]

You're right; you didn't ask specifically for favellas and crime, but in the other thread you did ask to see a more balanced vision of Brazil.. Now that you've seen Trantor's pictures of upper and middle class areas, Mary's photos of super wealthy areas, and now these favela pics, the forum is a bit more balanced with respect to Brazil. I like Mary's pictures, but you're right.. she does go out of her way to photograph the super nice stuff. Thanks Trantor!

[Trantor]

Originally Posted by BnaBreaker

lol, some of those photos were interesting. However, (and not to sound picky, but just to clarify) this isn't at all what anyone "asked" to see. Noone said "I want to see flavellas and crime because that is the real brazil". All that was said was 'let's see something more than a Maserati and a gated community straight outta Scottsdale, AZ'.

you didnt, but if I am not mistaken, one guy in that thread DID ASK specifically for favelas... oh wait, it was in the Balneário Camboriú thread
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=124120

[uau]

Oh, it's not very bad! But, I don 't prefer it here. And in Curitiba, it's similar the favela. And I see in a one site that PA has more favelas than Curitiba, but I don't know it, I'm searching the link, and when I find I put here, ok?

[Bergenser]

Interesting shot's, I see there are much crime/"bad areas" in Brazil too!
thanks for posting this, now we can see what "real Brazil" is, but ofcourse nothing is "real Brazil" as every shot of Brazilian cities are real enought.

Norway is a very rich country, but that doesn't mean that we don't have poor areas. The poor areas are the same country, but if we just post poor pictures, we may get the wrong image of Norway. therefore balanced picture threads are a good idea. although I see you posted this because there is another thread that represent the "richer" part of Brazil.

[soleri]

I was the guy requesting a some favela "shots", and I got a bit more than I bargained for. Still, it's very interesting. I would say it looks better than Mexico City's slums.

[Trantor]

Originally Posted by soleri

I was the guy requesting a some favela "shots", and I got a bit more than I bargained for. Still, it's very interesting. I would say it looks better than Mexico City's slums.

this is the largest favela in one of the best brazilian cities. There are much worse (and MUCH BIGGER) favelas in Rio and São Paulo.

[BnaBreaker]

True true all, true true. lol

[Trantor]

Originally Posted by BnaBreaker

True true all, true true. lol

just dont forget to post in the Porto Alegre and Curitiba threads!!!

[uau]

Originally Posted by Trantor

just dont forget to post in the Porto Alegre and Curitiba threads!!!

Oh, thanks for the spam!

[James Bond Agent 007]

Interesting. I've seen lots of pics of favelas in Rio and Sao Paulo but not in any Brazilian southern cities.

These don't look all that bad (aside from the violence). It reminds me of the aerials of Cuidad Juarez, Mexico I got for my El Paso sprawl thread.

This one looks like it used to be a slum but they've been fixing them up:


Not so fixed up.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Just for comparison, let's compare these with some American slums.

The "rule" seems to be, in America, slums tend to be houses that used to be nice (or at least average) housing that gradually went "downmarket" and became run-down. In Latin America, it looks like slums tend to be houses that squatters originally built themselves with scrap materials, but over time they gradually fix them up.

El Paso


Kansas City


Tucson


Los Angeles - not really slums, but still "downmarket" stuff


Elsewhere in metro LA


Phoenix


Buffalo. Not sure if these would be "slums" or not, but it is "downmarket" stuff at least


San Antonio


St Louis. Also typical of many areas in Detroit and some other Midwestern and Northeastern cities


Memphis


Miami


Birmingham



Paterson, New Jersey


I don't have any other of those bombed-out looking slums you find in a lot of Northeastern and Midwestern old cities, except for that one in St Louis.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Some more American slums, for comparison.

These don't include any public housing projects.

South Bronx


Brooklyn (Bedford-Stuyvesant)


Cleveland


Detroit. Detroit doesn't really seem to have many "slums," it's just . . . abandoned.


Newark


Another St Louis

[BuildCTPlace]

Wait, I thought this thread was supposed to be about Brazil, not Bed-Stuy.

[Sacto]

Interesting thread indeed...

[soleri]

Interesting diversion into slums: whose are worse?

Just this observation. Latin American favelas may be bad and frightening, but at least there's something - dare I say it? - like vibrancy. When you look at American slums, particularly in the Rust Belt, the Sun Belt, or the South, the sense of abandonment is pretty stark. Eastern cities in America seem to have kept the urban fabric (the shot of Buffalo hardly looks like a slum from the air, and Bedford Stuyvesant is gentification waiting to happen).

[Ex-Ithacan]

This is like the place I ended up in when a Navy buddy and I met a couple of sweet young gals (I guess you could call them Independant Contractors) in Recife back in '73. Sure looks similar, but then again I was under the influence of that evil spirit Rum.

Thanks for the pics Trantor.

[sbarn]

Originally Posted by soleri

Interesting diversion into slums: whose are worse?

Just this observation. Latin American favelas may be bad and frightening, but at least there's something - dare I say it? - like vibrancy. When you look at American slums, particularly in the Rust Belt, the Sun Belt, or the South, the sense of abandonment is pretty stark. Eastern cities in America seem to have kept the urban fabric (the shot of Buffalo hardly looks like a slum from the air, and Bedford Stuyvesant is gentification waiting to happen).

I'd say Bed-Sty is well on its way to being gentrified...

To be honest, I read those "lets see the 'real' Brazil" comments in another thread and was slightly annoyed. So don't be discouraged from showing the non-favela Brazil in future threads. I find it facinating to see, since I've never been.