Manufacturing Cities 2015 (US)

[TarHeelJ]

Great...so 63,300 for the Triangle and 95,400 for the Triad. Thanks.

[DecoJim]

007, you are partially right.
Besides increased working productivity there are other factors.
Some workers have been completely replaced by welding robots and such.
Also in the 1920s at the Ford Rouge plant, Henry Ford I was trying to achieve complete vertical integration; freighters brought in iron ore and other raw materials and the steel foundries and glass plants made car parts and windshields. The main automobile assembly line was only the final step. Over 100,000 worked there in its "glory days".

As you know, outsourcing to multiple tiers of suppliers is now the norm. The auto plants basically assemble components built elsewhere. So the main assembly plant might have less than 1/10 the workers the old factories had but some of those old factory jobs were outsourced to various suppliers instead of disappearing entirely. Of course some of those jobs might be now be in other cities or countries.

Originally Posted by James Bond Agent 007

One thing you have to remember when talking about these manufacturing jobs in Days of Yore is that manufacturing has gotten so productive they need only a fraction of the workers they used to have in order to produce the same amount of goods. For the example of Detroit mentioned above, here is a scan I made of a National Geographic article from 1930 or thereabouts. Notice in the first full paragraph it mentions that a single auto factory usually employed 55-65K each. Nowadays an auto factory is considered to be huge if it employs 5K or 6K, and most are more along the lines of 2 or 3K. And I'm pretty sure they churn out more cars per factory per year than the circa 1930 ones did.

That 1930(s) NG:

Detroit:
"A City Without Slums"

Reading that today makes me want to cry...

[James Bond Agent 007]

You are right about the vertical integration; you rarely find anything like that these days. That said, I'm not sure all the auto plants back then did that, though perhaps there was still more of it, even excluding the River Rouge plant, than you see nowadays.

The productivity and the robots are one and the same.

[James Bond Agent 007]

BTW, I'm looking at the issue in front of me right now - it's the March, 1928 issue, in an article called "Michigan, Mistress of the Lakes." I've got a minor hobby of collecting old National Geographics. Cool stuff to read, even with all the sugar-coating they tended to do back then.

[Centropolis]

all i know about manufacturing is that i did it, and then decided that it sucked and finished university. and now i wander around dead factories for a living like some kind of post-apoco scrapper.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by memph

interesting, for canada it would be.

Toronto: 293,790
Kitchener: 49,225
Hamilton: 43,475
St. Catherines: 19,245
Oshawa: 18,615
Guelph: 15,220
Brantford: 11,545
Barrie: 10,925
Peterborough: 5,140

London: 28,620
Norfolk: 5,065
Woodstock: 4,825
Kawartha lakes: 3,080
Midland: 3,065

467,180 + 44,655

Despite the massive hollowing out of manufacturing in the Greater Golden Horseshoe there are still 467,180 manufacturing jobs in the cities and towns in this economic region + another 44,655 just outside it. That would put it only behind Los Angeles (CSA) in north America unless Mexico City is ahead too. Any figures for it?

[nei]

Huh. I assumed the manufacturing jobs of The Golden Horseshoe would be concentrated outside of Toronto in the satellite cities.

Mexican numbers would be interesting . I think the factories are concentrated in the north, but Mexico City has a huge population so absolute numbers must be high; probably as high as Los Angeles ?

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by nei

Huh. I assumed the manufacturing jobs of The Golden Horseshoe would be concentrated outside of Toronto in the satellite cities.

Mexican numbers would be interesting . I think the factories are concentrated in the north, but Mexico City has a huge population so absolute numbers must be high; probably as high as Los Angeles ?

Toronto has long been blue collar and industrial. It's only recently that the city has shed that image and moved heavily towards white collar jobs, tech, cultural industries, etc. Toronto is now as dependent on financial services as London and New York, for instance. There has been massive de-industrialization over the last 50 years but there are still tons of factories left. I imagine the biggest sectors would be food processing, aerospace, and autos.

The satellite cities around Toronto are more concentrated in manufacturing but Toronto itself remains a big producer of goods. You're right about the concentration of manufacturing in northern Mexico and that Mexico City would surely have a ton of factory jobs simply due to its size.

[Yuri]

Of course São Paulo, as Toronto, was born as an industrial centre, becoming a financial hub only in a later stage, so it probably has much more manufacturing jobs than Mexico City, an administrative centre.

Said that, São Paulo macrometropolitan area has over 2.2 million jobs in the sector, therefore I'd guess Mexican central valley would be around 1 million jobs at least.

[dc_denizen]

Yes, I think Ontario has something like 750,000 manufacturing jobs.

Ohio has 690,000
Michigan has 590,000
Pennsylvania has 560,000
Indiana has 516,000
Illinois has 574,000

http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.oh.htm

The low Canadian dollar delayed the outsourcing wave a bit (plus the sun belt competition was less of a factor).

[tech12]

Manufacturing jobs for the entire Bay Area CSA:

San Jose MSA - 161,600
San Francisco MSA - 126,400
Santa Rosa MSA - 21,800
Stockton MSA - 18,900
Napa MSA - 12,100
Vallejo MSA - 11,800
Santa Cruz MSA - 6,600

total - 359,200

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by dc_denizen

Yes, I think Ontario has something like 750,000 manufacturing jobs.

Ohio has 690,000
Michigan has 590,000
Pennsylvania has 560,000
Indiana has 516,000
Illinois has 574,000

http://www.bls.gov/eag/eag.oh.htm

The low Canadian dollar delayed the outsourcing wave a bit (plus the sun belt competition was less of a factor).

I'm actually shocked that Ontario has more than those US states. Based on population, Indiana is a lot more focused on manufacturing than Ontario... Ontario being a much bigger jurisdiction.

The Auto Pact (since dismantled) built up Ontario's auto industry to one as big as Michigan's. The industry has received little investment over the last 15 years but the sector remains massive with 2 million+ vehicles still produced here. I don't see the industry imploding despite the blows it's taken recently. Toyota just announced its set to increase Ontario production further.

Toronto has a very strong position in food processing. I believe only the one in Los Angeles is bigger. Toronto imports cane sugar directly from the Caribbean to the foot of the city by ship. US factories tend to use corn syrup which is an inferior sweetener. Southern Ontario produces a huge amount of produce and serves as the Canadian HQ for both domestic and foreign food companies: there's a high concentration of firms and producers. These factors and having 150 million consumers within a days drive make southern Ontario a great place for food processing.

There's also a sizable aerospace sector here. It's not on the scale of Montreal, Seattle, or Los Angeles but the factories that do exist in southern Ontario aren't very mobile. Aerospace requires skills and competencies that are hard to replicate so they tend not to pick up and move just to gain cheaper labour. Creating an appealing environment for manufacturing helps too:

[dc_denizen]

this is interesting: Manufacturing, value added (current US$)

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Industry/Manufacturing,-value-added/Current-US$-per-capita

1 European Union $2.27 trillion 2010
2 China $1.92 trillion 2010
3 United States $1.80 trillion 2011
4 Japan $1.09 trillion 2011
Group of 7 countries (G7) average $639.90 billion 2009
5 Germany $610.18 billion 2010
Non-religious countries average $317.98 billion 2010
6 South Korea $315.89 billion 2012
7 Italy $306.20 billion 2010
8 Russia $260.44 billion 2012
9 Brazil $253.64 billion 2012
10 France $253.61 billion 2009
11 India $235.25 billion 2012
12 United Kingdom $229.62 billion 2010
13 Indonesia $210.18 billion 2012
14 Mexico $198.20 billion 2012
High income OECD countries average $188.77 billion 2009
15 Spain $172.43 billion 2009
16 Canada $169.12 billion 2008
Emerging markets average $162.75 billion 2010
17 Thailand $124.35 billion 2012
18 Turkey $122.74 billion 2012
Heavily indebted countries average $117.79 billion 2009
19 Australia $108.16 billion 2012
Eurozone average $103.96 billion 2009
Cold countries average $101.35 billion 2004
East Asia and Pacific average $94.97 billion 2006
20 Netherlands $91.86 billion 2010
NATO countries average $85.36 billion 2009
European Union average $85.00 billion 2009
21 Argentina $84.36 billion 2012
22 Poland $76.42 billion 2010
23 Malaysia $73.94 billion 2012
South Asia average $72.23 billion 2012
24 Saudi Arabia $71.59 billion 2012
25 Sweden $65.61 billion 2010
26 Austria $65.07 billion 2010
Europe average $59.94 billion 2009
27 Belgium $59.03 billion 2009
Former British colonies average $58.62 billion 2011
Christian countries average $53.44 billion 2007
28 Singapore $53.41 billion 2012
29 Philippines $51.41 billion 2012
30 Venezuela $50.89 billion 2010
31 Ireland $48.71 billion 2009
32 Puerto Rico $47.99 billion 2011
Catholic countries average $46.97 billion 2009
33 Colombia $43.92 billion 2012
34 South Africa $42.76 billion 2012
35 Czech Republic $42.24 billion 2010
Religious countries average $42.21 billion 2010
36 Finland $38.85 billion 2010
37 Egypt $36.94 billion 2012
38 Norway $34.14 billion 2010
39 Denmark $32.88 billion 2010
40 Pakistan $31.42 billion 2012
South and Central Asia average $30.14 billion 2012

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by isaidso

I'm actually shocked that Ontario has more than those US states. Based on population, Indiana is a lot more focused on manufacturing than Ontario... Ontario being a much bigger jurisdiction.

The Auto Pact (since dismantled) built up Ontario's auto industry to one as big as Michigan's. The industry has received little investment over the last 15 years but the sector remains massive with 2 million+ vehicles still produced here. I don't see the industry imploding despite the blows it's taken recently. Toyota just announced its set to increase Ontario production further.

Toronto has a very strong position in food processing. I believe only the one in Los Angeles is bigger. Toronto imports cane sugar directly from the Caribbean to the foot of the city by ship. US factories tend to use corn syrup which is an inferior sweetener. Southern Ontario produces a huge amount of produce and serves as the Canadian HQ for both domestic and foreign food companies: there's a high concentration of firms and producers. These factors and having 150 million consumers within a days drive make southern Ontario a great place for food processing.

There's also a sizable aerospace sector here. It's not on the scale of Montreal, Seattle, or Los Angeles but the factories that do exist in southern Ontario aren't very mobile. Aerospace requires skills and competencies that are hard to replicate so they tend not to pick up and move just to gain cheaper labour. Creating an appealing environment for manufacturing helps too:

Compared to American states, Ontario's manufacturing sector is "sheltered" to some degree by the fact that it's in Canada. I mean, Canada has a high level of free trade with the U.S. but relationships, trade patterns, manufacturing capacity, distribution systems and economies of scale have been built into Ontario's economy over the past century or more.

The dominance may have diminished somewhat but Ontario is still in many ways Canada's Great Supplier of Everything from coast to coast.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Compared to American states, Ontario's manufacturing sector is "sheltered" to some degree by the fact that it's in Canada. I mean, Canada has a high level of free trade with the U.S. but relationships, trade patterns, manufacturing capacity, distribution systems and economies of scale have been built into Ontario's economy over the past century or more.

The dominance may have diminished somewhat but Ontario is still in many ways Canada's Great Supplier of Everything from coast to coast.

Agree. There are benefits to being a separate country and advantages in having production in both countries. Ontario has an entire manufacturing eco-system working for it that runs in unison with the US one. That's hard to dismantle.

Ontario also benefits fiscally, politically, and socially. Having a Canadian central bank that can manipulate interest rates and currency independent of the US Federal Reserve is a huge benefit. Ontario benefits from Canadian immigration policy while US states have more competition for the immigrant talent that heads to the US. Very few are going to Ohio, Indiana, etc. Same goes for domestic talent. Lots of Canada's brightest end up in Toronto. In the US, they go to NY, LA, SF, but not so much to the US midwest.

All of these things that benefit Ontario also benefit Quebec, but to a lesser extent due to its status within Canada.

[James Bond Agent 007]

Related to this topic. Fact of the matter is, most people don't want manufacturing jobs these days, so whatever nostalgia some people have about them is probably misguided.

He has manufacturing jobs in Hazelwood. Filling them is another matter

There’s a problem, though. Steuby is struggling to find people to make machined parts for the openers and other products.

Steuby had another sign slapped up along North Lindbergh this month that’s big, blue and reads: “We can train you in our free school to become a lifetime Machinist.”

[...]

Steuby said he had $15 million in sales in fiscal year 2015 and expects about $3 million less this year, but he’s still hiring. A week after putting up the new sign, he said just 10 people had responded to the job advertisement, and only one of them passed initial mechanical aptitude tests.

[Yuri]

I made a list using data from the Ministry of Labour. Sorted by regions: North, Northeast, Central-West, Southeast and South. Current xchange rate is at 1 USD to 3.25 BRL.

Largest Manufacturing Centres in Brazil (Dec 31st 2014):

------------------- Monthly Salary Mass --- Jobs on Manufacturing --- Population

Manaus -------------------- R$ 294.137.827 --- 127.008 -- 2.020.301
Belém ---------------------- R$ 47.880.364 ---- 28.564 -- 2.110.318
Barcarena ------------------ R$ 16.807.887 ----- 5.035 ---- 112.921
Marabá --------------------- R$ 11.195.415 ----- 5.500 ---- 257.062
Porto Velho ---------------- R$ 10.950.355 ----- 6.881 ---- 494.013
Castanhal ------------------- R$ 8.757.245 ----- 7.227 ---- 186.895
Ji-Paraná ------------------- R$ 6.719.861 ----- 4.746 ---- 129.242
Parauapebas ----------------- R$ 6.355.807 ----- 2.907 ---- 183.352
Rio Branco ------------------ R$ 5.774.946 ----- 4.394 ---- 363.928
Palmas ---------------------- R$ 4.921.090 ----- 3.481 ---- 265.409
Araguaína ------------------- R$ 4.902.851 ----- 3.806 ---- 167.176
Macapá ---------------------- R$ 4.680.891 ----- 3.483 ---- 557.322
Ariquemes ------------------- R$ 3.970.656 ----- 2.854 ---- 102.860
Santarém -------------------- R$ 3.564.349 ----- 3.072 ---- 305.862
Paragominas ----------------- R$ 3.550.955 ----- 2.789 ---- 105.417
Altamira -------------------- R$ 3.283.520 ----- 1.515 ---- 106.768
Boa Vista ------------------- R$ 3.147.747 ----- 2.553 ---- 314.900
Itaituba -------------------- R$ 2.483.655 ----- 1.224 ----- 98.405
São Félix do Xingu ------------ R$ 730.640 ------- 492 ---- 111.633
Breves ------------------------ R$ 632.688 ------- 600 ----- 97.351
Tucuruí ----------------------- R$ 560.785 ------- 478 ---- 105.431
Bragança ---------------------- R$ 501.094 ------- 512 ---- 120.124
Parintins --------------------- R$ 427.050 ------- 285 ---- 110.411
Abaetetuba -------------------- R$ 344.766 ------- 305 ---- 148.873
Cametá ------------------------- R$ 61.900 -------- 59 ---- 129.161

------------------- Monthly Salary Mass --- Jobs on Manufacturing --- Population

Salvador ------------------ R$ 247.231.116 ---- 88.363 -- 3.580.607
Fortaleza ----------------- R$ 219.665.049 --- 154.629 -- 3.469.543
Recife -------------------- R$ 208.550.406 --- 109.145 -- 3.693.174
Natal ---------------------- R$ 48.290.292 ---- 37.185 -- 1.298.694
Maceió --------------------- R$ 48.217.676 ---- 29.500 -- 1.173.040
João Pessoa ---------------- R$ 48.036.906 ---- 34.490 -- 1.087.337
Feira de Santana ----------- R$ 32.832.143 ---- 20.545 ---- 612.000
Aracaju -------------------- R$ 32.566.773 ---- 17.612 ---- 826.806
São Luís ------------------- R$ 29.268.407 ---- 14.912 -- 1.381.459
Campina Grande ------------- R$ 25.164.952 ---- 19.576 ---- 429.862
Teresina ------------------- R$ 24.932.075 ---- 21.247 -- 1.003.942
Sobral --------------------- R$ 22.698.994 ---- 21.739 ---- 199.750
Juazeiro do Norte ---------- R$ 18.592.716 ---- 18.647 ---- 449.708
Vitória de Santo Antão ----- R$ 15.023.570 ----- 9.690 ---- 134.871
Caruaru -------------------- R$ 14.284.571 ---- 13.635 ---- 342.328
Petrolina-Juazeiro --------- R$ 12.672.425 ----- 8.805 ---- 542.605
Vitória da Conquista ------- R$ 10.697.636 ----- 9.573 ---- 340.199
Alagoinhas ------------------ R$ 9.266.108 ----- 4.612 ---- 153.560
Mossoró --------------------- R$ 8.989.275 ----- 6.415 ---- 284.288
Jequié ---------------------- R$ 7.205.704 ----- 6.797 ---- 161.150
Itabuna --------------------- R$ 6.703.219 ----- 5.126 ---- 218.925
Eunápolis ------------------- R$ 6.684.768 ----- 2.333 ---- 112.032
Imperatriz ------------------ R$ 6.506.305 ----- 4.766 ---- 252.320
Ilhéus ---------------------- R$ 6.443.465 ----- 3.719 ---- 182.350 
Açailândia ------------------ R$ 5.319.582 ----- 2.743 ---- 108.765
Arapiraca ------------------- R$ 5.003.164 ----- 4.404 ---- 229.329
Santo Antônio de Jesus ------ R$ 4.966.081 ----- 4.001 ---- 100.550
Lagarto --------------------- R$ 3.383.579 ----- 2.702 ---- 101.305
Iguatu ---------------------- R$ 3.296.941 ----- 3.610 ---- 100.733
Barreiras ------------------- R$ 3.157.017 ----- 2.290 ---- 152.208
Itapipoca ------------------- R$ 2.780.448 ----- 2.502 ---- 123.613
Garanhuns ------------------- R$ 2.496.203 ----- 1.916 ---- 136.057
Teixeira de Freitas --------- R$ 2.115.372 ----- 1.834 ---- 155.659
Codó ------------------------ R$ 2.094.158 ----- 1.358 ---- 119.962
Caxias ---------------------- R$ 1.716.393 ----- 1.178 ---- 160.291
Parnaíba -------------------- R$ 1.593.489 ----- 1.637 ---- 149.348
Patos ----------------------- R$ 1.448.889 ----- 1.512 ---- 105.531
Porto Seguro ---------------- R$ 1.122.007 ----- 1.043 ---- 143.282
Paulo Afonso ------------------ R$ 925.153 ------- 786 ---- 118.323
Bacabal ----------------------- R$ 808.226 ------- 676 ---- 102.265

------------------- Monthly Salary Mass --- Jobs on Manufacturing --- Population

Goiânia ------------------- R$ 147.619.040 ---- 87.467 -- 2.175.483
Brasília ------------------- R$ 89.236.563 ---- 45.319 -- 3.543.844
Anápolis ------------------- R$ 55.661.364 ---- 29.339 ---- 361.991
Cuiabá --------------------- R$ 45.291.699 ---- 25.900 ---- 841.255
Campo Grande --------------- R$ 32.239.083 ---- 19.493 ---- 843.120
Rio Verde ------------------ R$ 27.547.692 ---- 14.775 ---- 202.221
Três Lagoas ---------------- R$ 26.344.794 ---- 10.625 ---- 111.652
Itumbiara ------------------ R$ 19.998.969 ----- 8.710 ---- 106.119
Dourados ------------------- R$ 19.759.196 ---- 11.081 ---- 210.218
Rondonópolis --------------- R$ 19.042.106 ---- 17.539 ---- 211.718
Sinop ----------------------- R$ 9.505.954 ----- 5.621 ---- 126.817
Corumbá --------------------- R$ 2.083.015 ----- 1.110 ---- 129.498
Formosa --------------------- R$ 1.585.768 ----- 1.110 ---- 110.388

------------------- Monthly Salary Mass --- Jobs on Manufacturing --- Population

São Paulo --------------- R$ 3.933.193.135 - 1.116.991 - 20.759.948
Rio de Janeiro ---------- R$ 1.161.633.837 --- 311.691 - 12.050.703
Belo Horizonte ------------ R$ 613.726.701 --- 224.118 -- 4.852.221
Campinas ------------------ R$ 590.641.355 --- 143.331 -- 1.968.664
São José dos Campos ------- R$ 340.132.335 ---- 67.467 ---- 996.288
Jundiaí ------------------- R$ 271.451.259 ---- 80.081 ---- 688.773
Sorocaba ------------------ R$ 267.493.919 ---- 76.692 ---- 802.530
Americana-Sta.Bárbara ----- R$ 163.149.895 ---- 60.232 ---- 472.211
Taubaté-Pindamonhangaba --- R$ 143.322.150 ---- 35.665 ---- 502.686
Vitória ------------------- R$ 139.169.348 ---- 54.207 -- 1.746.455
Piracicaba ---------------- R$ 135.770.562 ---- 41.132 ---- 388.412
Santos -------------------- R$ 118.270.121 ---- 24.157 -- 1.661.951
Indaiatuba ---------------- R$ 101.386.334 ---- 26.605 ---- 226.602
Limeira -------------------- R$ 90.509.452 ---- 31.835 ---- 294.128
Itu-Salto ------------------ R$ 88.398.036 ---- 30.083 ---- 278.638
Rio Claro ------------------ R$ 79.949.749 ---- 29.478 ---- 222.685
Macaé-Rio das Ostras ------- R$ 75.003.523 ---- 17.436 ---- 356.795
Mogi Guaçu-Mogi Mirim ------ R$ 70.200.268 ---- 22.179 ---- 247.913
Ipatinga ------------------- R$ 67.388.483 ---- 24.410 ---- 450.903
Sertãozinho ---------------- R$ 64.195.933 ---- 20.427 ---- 118.864
Ribeirão Preto ------------- R$ 62.556.269 ---- 26.919 ---- 699.287
São José do Rio Preto ------ R$ 61.477.491 ---- 31.562 ---- 540.243
Volta Redonda -------------- R$ 60.470.400 ---- 24.639 ---- 465.647
São Carlos ----------------- R$ 54.533.321 ---- 20.309 ---- 238.958
Resende -------------------- R$ 54.434.443 ---- 14.959 ---- 185.697
Araraquara ----------------- R$ 52.708.191 ---- 20.835 ---- 270.646
Franca --------------------- R$ 49.938.672 ---- 31.764 ---- 347.637
Uberlândia ----------------- R$ 47.495.201 ---- 22.714 ---- 654.681
Angra dos Reis ------------- R$ 44.478.136 ----- 9.967 ---- 184.940
Araras --------------------- R$ 37.336.042 ---- 13.625 ---- 127.661
Uberaba -------------------- R$ 36.525.296 ---- 14.924 ---- 318.813
Itatiba -------------------- R$ 36.519.684 ---- 12.683 ---- 111.620
Juiz de Fora --------------- R$ 36.359.388 ---- 20.741 ---- 550.710
Bauru ---------------------- R$ 36.055.916 ---- 15.435 ---- 377.530
Botucatu ------------------- R$ 33.616.038 ---- 11.815 ---- 137.899
Catanduva ------------------ R$ 33.278.888 ---- 14.346 ---- 135.033
Sete Lagoas ---------------- R$ 30.630.840 ---- 15.327 ---- 240.174
Petrópolis ----------------- R$ 30.421.774 ---- 14.886 ---- 298.017
Marília -------------------- R$ 30.243.427 ---- 13.302 ---- 230.336
Birigui -------------------- R$ 29.204.426 ---- 19.368 ---- 117.143
Pouso Alegre --------------- R$ 28.371.106 ---- 13.778 ---- 142.073
Bragança Paulista ---------- R$ 26.572.867 ---- 11.229 ---- 158.856
Guaratinguetá -------------- R$ 26.407.096 ----- 7.218 ---- 186.803
Cachoeiro de Itapemirim ---- R$ 25.620.109 ---- 13.927 ---- 206.973
Itajubá -------------------- R$ 25.457.776 ----- 9.540 ----- 95.491
Tatuí ---------------------- R$ 25.432.406 ---- 10.190 ---- 115.515
Divinópolis ---------------- R$ 24.456.924 ---- 15.159 ---- 228.643
Presidente Prudente -------- R$ 24.220.846 ---- 13.097 ---- 245.167
Montes Claros -------------- R$ 22.545.456 ---- 12.450 ---- 390.212
Nova Friburgo -------------- R$ 21.849.746 ---- 16.872 ---- 184.460
Poços de Caldas ------------ R$ 21.557.110 ----- 9.360 ---- 162.379
Ubá ------------------------ R$ 21.520.057 ---- 13.490 ---- 109.779
Jaú ------------------------ R$ 21.152.885 ---- 11.816 ---- 141.703
Linhares ------------------- R$ 21.106.114 ---- 12.610 ---- 160.765
São Roque-Mairinque -------- R$ 20.473.141 ----- 8.753 ---- 131.231
Araçatuba ------------------ R$ 18.177.829 ----- 9.224 ---- 191.662
Varginha ------------------- R$ 18.169.898 ----- 9.383 ---- 131.269
Leme ----------------------- R$ 16.614.928 ----- 7.803 ----- 98.460
Itapetininga --------------- R$ 16.281.685 ----- 8.315 ---- 155.436
Araxá ---------------------- R$ 15.780.438 ----- 4.570 ---- 101.136
Campos dos Goytacazes ------ R$ 14.287.652 ----- 9.077 ---- 480.648
Três Rios-Paraíba do Sul --- R$ 13.282.783 ----- 8.529 ---- 121.157
Colatina ------------------- R$ 13.183.334 ----- 9.085 ---- 121.670
Barretos ------------------- R$ 12.860.083 ----- 6.350 ---- 118.521
Ituiutaba ------------------ R$ 12.278.189 ----- 5.498 ---- 102.690
São João da Boa Vista ------ R$ 12.194.824 ----- 5.514 ----- 96.461
Ourinhos ------------------- R$ 11.835.879 ----- 5.785 ---- 109.489
Patos de Minas ------------- R$ 11.721.400 ----- 6.780 ---- 147.614
Passos --------------------- R$ 10.026.726 ----- 5.788 ---- 112.402
Governador Valadares -------- R$ 9.612.443 ----- 6.342 ---- 276.995
Araguari -------------------- R$ 9.056.824 ----- 5.338 ---- 115.632
Lavras ---------------------- R$ 8.509.300 ----- 4.599 ----- 99.229
Teresópolis ----------------- R$ 7.940.961 ----- 4.239 ---- 171.482
Muriaé ---------------------- R$ 6.116.727 ----- 5.609 ---- 106.576
Barra do Piraí--------------- R$ 5.954.315 ----- 3.265 ----- 96.568
Itaperuna ------------------- R$ 5.762.365 ----- 4.460 ----- 98.521
Barbacena ------------------- R$ 5.541.062 ----- 4.040 ---- 133.972
São João del Rei ------------ R$ 4.883.272 ----- 2.855 ----- 97.267
Assis ----------------------- R$ 4.038.397 ----- 2.092 ---- 100.911
São Mateus ------------------ R$ 3.618.310 ----- 2.046 ---- 122.668
Itabira --------------------- R$ 3.330.644 ----- 2.335 ---- 116.745
Guarapari ------------------- R$ 3.222.722 ----- 1.686 ---- 118.056
Conselheiro Lafaiete -------- R$ 2.966.902 ----- 1.825 ---- 124.370
Caraguatatuba-S.Sebastião --- R$ 2.317.655 ----- 1.411 ---- 310.240
Cabo Frio ------------------- R$ 2.251.113 ----- 1.784 ---- 359.109
Araruama -------------------- R$ 1.473.566 ----- 1.099 ---- 146.302
Teófilo Otoni --------------- R$ 1.417.012 ----- 1.229 ---- 140.567

------------------- Monthly Salary Mass --- Jobs on Manufacturing --- Population

Curitiba ------------------ R$ 622.008.632 --- 204.748 -- 3.220.652
Porto Alegre -------------- R$ 527.478.961 --- 196.453 -- 3.666.838
Caxias do Sul ------------- R$ 258.226.093 ---- 91.540 ---- 538.253
Joinville ----------------- R$ 217.090.020 ---- 80.870 ---- 585.631
Blumenau ------------------ R$ 161.837.198 ---- 72.976 ---- 459.796
Jaraguá do Sul ------------ R$ 113.946.392 ---- 48.386 ---- 218.198
Bento Gonçalves ------------ R$ 92.555.493 ---- 36.372 ---- 175.259
Itajaí-B. Camboriú --------- R$ 85.752.167 ---- 35.071 ---- 543.296
Londrina ------------------- R$ 75.471.989 ---- 38.290 ---- 697.841
Brusque -------------------- R$ 67.714.305 ---- 29.886 ---- 140.765
Maringá -------------------- R$ 67.658.035 ---- 36.905 ---- 519.932
Criciúma ------------------- R$ 63.838.602 ---- 31.384 ---- 307.062
Florianópolis -------------- R$ 55.745.147 ---- 27.495 ---- 935.361
Rio Grande ----------------- R$ 55.074.891 ---- 13.992 ---- 207.036
Taquara-Parobé ------------- R$ 49.360.105 ---- 30.100 ---- 171.985
Chapecó -------------------- R$ 43.954.377 ---- 22.215 ---- 202.009
Ponta Grossa --------------- R$ 41.647.413 ---- 16.492 ---- 334.535
S.Bento do Sul-R.Negrinho -- R$ 40.629.767 ---- 20.821 ---- 121.357
Toledo --------------------- R$ 37.652.148 ---- 17.936 ---- 130.295
Arapongas ------------------ R$ 35.136.668 ---- 18.550 ---- 113.833
Sapiranga ------------------ R$ 34.995.486 ---- 20.726 ---- 104.235
Cascavel ------------------- R$ 34.019.221 ---- 19.582 ---- 309.259
Santa Cruz do Sul ---------- R$ 31.261.080 ---- 13.228 ---- 150.878
Lajeado -------------------- R$ 30.557.497 ---- 16.995 ---- 122.418
Erechim -------------------- R$ 30.246.774 ---- 14.223 ---- 101.752
Apucarana ------------------ R$ 21.626.415 ---- 14.182 ---- 129.265
Passo Fundo ---------------- R$ 20.659.109 ----- 9.527 ---- 195.620
Tubarão-Laguna ------------- R$ 20.445.435 ---- 11.710 ---- 179.506
Lages ---------------------- R$ 16.850.778 ----- 9.440 ---- 158.846
Pelotas -------------------- R$ 16.410.988 ---- 10.116 ---- 367.374
Umuarama ------------------- R$ 13.554.592 ----- 8.351 ---- 107.319
Guarapuava ----------------- R$ 13.021.815 ----- 7.437 ---- 176.973
Santa Maria ---------------- R$ 12.145.576 ----- 6.933 ---- 274.838
Paranaguá ------------------ R$ 11.529.726 ----- 4.908 ---- 149.467
Tramandaí-Osório ------------ R$ 3.604.158 ----- 2.658 ---- 109.006
Foz do Iguaçu --------------- R$ 3.576.064 ----- 2.357 ---- 263.647
Bagé ------------------------ R$ 3.318.323 ----- 2.083 ---- 121.500
Uruguaiana -------------------- R$ 903.277 ------- 669 ---- 129.580

São Paulo is the largest manufacturing centre in the country, with 1.1 million jobs making US$ 1.2 billion/month. The second is Rio, with 1/4 of those numbers.

The macrometropolitan area is now taking most of the new jobs as São Paulo metro area is already to crowded. Here are the numbers:

------------------- Monthly Salary Mass --- Jobs on Manufacturing --- Population

São Paulo --------------- R$ 3.933.193.135 - 1.116.991 - 20.759.948
Campinas ------------------ R$ 590.641.355 --- 143.331 -- 1.968.664
São José dos Campos ------- R$ 340.132.335 ---- 67.467 ---- 996.288
Jundiaí ------------------- R$ 271.451.259 ---- 80.081 ---- 688.773
Sorocaba ------------------ R$ 267.493.919 ---- 76.692 ---- 802.530
Americana-Sta.Bárbara ----- R$ 163.149.895 ---- 60.232 ---- 472.211
Taubaté-Pindamonhangaba --- R$ 143.322.150 ---- 35.665 ---- 502.686
Piracicaba ---------------- R$ 135.770.562 ---- 41.132 ---- 388.412
Santos -------------------- R$ 118.270.121 ---- 24.157 -- 1.661.951
Indaiatuba ---------------- R$ 101.386.334 ---- 26.605 ---- 226.602
Limeira -------------------- R$ 90.509.452 ---- 31.835 ---- 294.128
Itu-Salto ------------------ R$ 88.398.036 ---- 30.083 ---- 278.638
Rio Claro ------------------ R$ 79.949.749 ---- 29.478 ---- 222.685
Mogi Guaçu-Mogi Mirim ------ R$ 70.200.268 ---- 22.179 ---- 247.913
Itatiba -------------------- R$ 36.519.684 ---- 12.683 ---- 111.620
Atibaia -------------------- R$ 31.707.160 ---- 10.905 ---- 135.895
Bragança Paulista ---------- R$ 26.572.867 ---- 11.229 ---- 158.856
Guaratinguetá -------------- R$ 26.407.096 ----- 7.218 ---- 186.803
São Roque-Mairinque -------- R$ 20.473.141 ----- 8.753 ---- 131.231

[sentinel]

Just wanted to offer a compliment about how this is an excellent resource and great thread - kudos and thanks to all of the contributors so far!

[austlar1]

I lifted this from an online article (http://instructional1.calstatela.edu...ufacturing.htm) about manufacturing in Mexico. This regards Mexico City and did not provide raw numbers:

Mexico City and its twenty-one principal municipalities account for about 40% of the nation’s industrial base. Manufacturers have traditionally been attracted to the nation’s capital because it possesses a large and skilled workforce, a large consumer market, low product distribution costs, and proximity to the mechanisms of political decision-making. Its major industries include automotive parts, electronics, machine tools, and heavy machinery. So-called “heavy industry” (like paper mills, machinery, and chemical plants) is largely located in Mexico City’s suburbs.

[subterranean]

TPP, anyone?