^exactly...and alderman Reilly cant find an excuse for some complaining nimby since this spot is in the heart of loop and no reason to haggle about height
The alderman states that he had “many” concerns about the skyscraper’s parking podium and the project’s potential impact on traffic, congestion, and open space.
Sounds about right, if they're revised I don't see why it's a big deal, it doesn't say anything about height being an issue.
Sounds about right, if they're revised I don't see why it's a big deal, it doesn't say anything about height being an issue.
"Potential Impact on Traffic"
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The plan for Tribune Tower East has been “significantly revised” according to 42nd Ward Alderman Brendan Reilly’s recent e-mail to his constituents. Now he’s scheduled a public meeting to go over what changes have been made.
The alderman states that he had “many” concerns about the skyscraper’s parking podium and the project’s potential impact on traffic, congestion, and open space.
Open space? Open space? It's a below grade parking lot! This tower isn't being built in a park, it's not taking away open space from anyone. Reilly has no right to demand public park space from this project.
The Aldermen are out of control. Go get him Lori.
Yea, this is stupid, traffic seems fine around buildings like Sears or John Hancock, which have a similar floor count. Not really a great argument IMO but I guess the alderman can just make up whatever problems he wants.
Maybe I should stop trying to be so optimistic. They have the perfect opportunity for a new tallest building in Chicago and I get the feeling Reilly will f*ck everything up. We'll see next week I guess.
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this was such a nice proposal, hard to see how significantly revised doesn't = much worse
As long as the height and design stay the same I don't think'll be much worse
Yea, this is stupid, traffic seems fine around buildings like Sears or John Hancock, which have a similar floor count. Not really a great argument IMO but I guess the alderman can just make up whatever problems he wants.
I don't think we should plan our cities around cars and I don't like buildings designed with a primary or secondary goal to accommodate cars. But if there was a 1000 car garage, I can certainly see that inducing a lot of driving and impacting the area and making it harder to walk or drive. I'd want to see those parking spaces reduced or eliminated. Likewise, if a big hotel has a loading dock or drop off area in a space that clearly can't accommodate lots of cars unloading luggage with their flashers on, that's something I can see needing to be being addressed.
Open space? Open space? It's a below grade parking lot! This tower isn't being built in a park, it's not taking away open space from anyone. Reilly has no right to demand public park space from this project.
The Aldermen are out of control. Go get him Lori.
Not to mention it's already surrounded by two giant plazas and right next to the river walk... Such a dumb complaint to have. Feels like a throw in, no way the revision has park space included, wouldn't make sense
Developers to unveil retooled plan for Chicago’s second-tallest skyscraper, set to rise behind Tribune Tower
By RYAN ORI
CHICAGO TRIBUNE |
NOV 13, 2019 | 1:18 PM
A proposal to build Chicago’s second-tallest skyscraper next to Tribune Tower takes a key step Tuesday, when the developers unveil a revised plan that addresses neighbors’ complaints.
One thing that’s not expected to change is the 1,422-foot height that would make the tower, designed by Chicago-based supertall building specialists Adrian Smith and Gordon Gill, just 29 feet shorter than Willis Tower. The design features a flared top that resembles the ears of Batman’s mask.
For developers Golub & Co. and CIM Group, Tuesday’s meeting could go a long way toward winning the backing of 42nd Ward Ald. Brendan Reilly, on the way to zoning approval from the city.
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Reilly doesn’t oppose the supertall height, and said few neighbors expressed concerns about it.
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Construction of the second tower is scheduled to begin in mid-2022, Golub said.
even if this moves forward and gets approved, and even if the economy can hold up long enough to support it, we're still more than 2.5 years out from construction according to the developer's own schedule.
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One thing that’s not expected to change is the 1,422-foot height
even if this moves forward and gets approved, and even if the economy can hold up long enough to support it, we're still more than 2.5 years out from construction according to the developer's own schedule.
Bittersweet
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Reilly doesn’t oppose the supertall height, and said few neighbors expressed concerns about it.
Good things come to those who wait I guess, I know 2022 seems far out but it'll come soon enough.
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One thing that’s not expected to change is the 1,422-foot height that would make the tower, designed by Chicago-based supertall building specialists Adrian Smith and Gordon Gill, just 29 feet shorter than Willis Tower. The design features a flared top that resembles the ears of Batman’s mask.
With the increased unit count they either did a lot of rearranging (i.e. rentals instead of luxury) or this is just incorrect. I also don't see the logic of not adding another 30+ feet. The title of tallest building in Chicago would be quite an honor, minor increased construction costs aside.
They have 2+ years to come to their senses I guess
2022!...what the hell … talk about a let down...who knows what the economy is by then … just feel like longer it takes the better chance something can screw it up on the way
2022!...what the hell … talk about a let down...who knows what the economy is by then … just feel like longer it takes the better chance something can screw it up on the way
It can also work the other way, not saying that will happen but it's a possibility
even if this moves forward and gets approved, and even if the economy can hold up long enough to support it, we're still more than 2.5 years out from construction according to the developer's own schedule.
We'll live.
if it's 2022 we could see this rise along with Site I in LSE or even Related's project.
We all want this done right and not another 1000M where we question the developers ability to execute.
if it's 2022 we could see this rise along with Site I in LSE or even Related's project.
We all want this done right and not another 1000M where we question the developers ability to execute.
We have lots to keep us busy til then.
I dunno, this boom has already lasted such a crazy long time, I feel less confident that developers will still be in a position to break ground on supertalls in 2022.
Good things come to those who wait I guess, I know 2022 seems far out but it'll come soon enough.
With the increased unit count they either did a lot of rearranging (i.e. rentals instead of luxury) or this is just incorrect. I also don't see the logic of not adding another 30+ feet. The title of tallest building in Chicago would be quite an honor, minor increased construction costs aside.
They have 2+ years to come to their senses I guess
Marketing alone for stealing the title of the tallest would be enough to warrant the height increase. Baffling really. Anyone mind explaining why height never seems to be sought for, they same way American skyscrapers used to fight for the tallest title. It's what brought forth skyscraper innovation to the world.
And I write all this jibber jabber I remember... Oh wait, our cities have development codes...
i certainly pray that i'll still be alive 2.5 years from now, regardless of this project's fate.
my fear, as expressed by others, is that this current building cycle will be getting extremely long in the tooth by then, and that could potentially spell trouble for this project's viability.
if the developer had stated they anticipate groundbreaking in Q1 of 2021 or something like that, my fear would be lessened a bit.
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… talk about a let down...who knows what the economy is by then … just feel like longer it takes the better chance something can screw it up on the way
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