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Originally Posted by Crawford
Rural PA is more "Appalachian" than rural NYS. Much of PA is culturally like WV and Eastern KY. Upstate NY has lots of rural, deeply conservative areas but not really culturally Appalachian, even in the mountains. Rural NYS is kind of a transition between New England and Appalachia.
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Originally Posted by eschaton
The Southern Tier of NY has Appalachian characteristics, but it's also been historically one of the most right-wing parts of Upstate (aside from the exurban counties east of Buffalo).
Similarly, rural northern PA, although conservative, is not quite as conservative as rural southern PA. Trump got over 80% of the vote in two counties on the MD border for example, but didn't break 80% anywhere bordering New York.
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I would agree that the
southern half of PA is more culturally “Appalachian” than one finds in NY. Though I
do not think PA is like most of WV and nor eastern KY. And I don’t find too much difference between PA’s northern tier and NY’s southern tier... i.e., you’re really not going to notice any standout cultural difference between Binghamton, Scranton, Williamsport, Elmira, Bradford, Warren, Jamestown, and Olean. Really, all the way between Buffalo and Binghamton, and between Erie and Scranton, it makes kind of blandly similar parallelogram. But one definitely notices a cultural identity shift basically south of I-80 in PA.
Pennsylvania is really just best described as Pennsylvanian. The Keystone State, made up of both New England and Maryland/Virginia... where the north and south become one. The northern half of PA similar to upstate NY and with northern WV and Maryland similar to Pennsylvania’s southern half.