LOS ANGELES | Downtown Project Rundown 6.0 - Page 492

citywatch · #**9821** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 2:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Easy

Someone please tell me that none of that makes sense and that I'm being worrier.

hard to say....anything is possible, both good & bad. however, dtla has generally been historically one of the weaker urban areas in the country, certainly among the top cities of the US. That's why seeing what is going on in one of the historically stronger centers in america is a good comparison case.

I figure that if NYC is weathering the pandemic in a certain way, than dtla...which has been coming back after decades trapped in a recession....won't necessarily be much worse off....it already has been about as far down as any core could be.

The 2020 ghost town of manhattan has been hit by a lot of financial & political cross winds during Covid, as much as, if not more than, other cities have experienced. Because NYC has been famous for its crowding, I've read some say that has made it more vulnerable than always less crowded places have been. But if dtla can come back, so will other places...& visa versa....it's just a matter of time.

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JerellO · #**9822** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 3:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

What makes you think that? I like it as is but nice changes are also welcomed.

Angels landing will take up the whole park though right? That's kind of a bummer.

Here's to hoping 1045 Olive and 1111 Hill Street survive the pandemic, those are beautiful.

I’m just wondering what everyone thinks is all... tends to happen a lot and not just LA. I love the way it looks also but maybe the bigger tower can be tweaked on a bit, always room for improvement ☺️ And yeah it’s gonna be taking the entire park from what I’ve seen in the tenders, what will replace it though will provide views from terraces

Radio5 · #**9823** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 3:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Niftybox

Wasn't that news old? I mean prior to the September 14 20' statement?

I sent them an email on Sept 18th, 2020 after this was published. They responded on Sept 22nd with the quote I posted earlier.

badrunner · #**9824** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 8:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by JerellO

You guys think there’s a good chance that Angels Landing design and heights might change down the road? Seems to happen a lot and something tells me design will change.. probably for the better

I hope the design changes. The current site plan leaves a lot to be desired.

My wishlist for the project:

-Make it a single tower. It doesn't have to be a supertall.
-Better integration of Angels Flight (right now it's an afterthought).
-Streetfront retail along Hill st.
-Forget about 4th st. (which doesn't have a lot of potential imo), re-orient the whole project along Hill st. more towards the NE corner of the lot (Angels Flight, Grand Central Market).

Doctorboffin · #**9825** Posted **Dec 9, 2020, 9:32 PM**

So, does this mean Figueroa center is dead?

https://planning.lacity.org/pdiscase...-hltbhRhu4pHcw

JDRCRASH · #**9826** Posted **Dec 10, 2020, 4:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

What makes you think that? I like it as is but nice changes are also welcomed.

Angels landing will take up the whole park though right? That's kind of a bummer.

As much as I’d like spire on top of this building, maybe make the rooftop a public park with an elevator that goes straight from the ground to roof?

Zapatan · #**9827** Posted **Dec 10, 2020, 4:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by Doctorboffin

So, does this mean Figueroa center is dead?

https://planning.lacity.org/pdiscase...-hltbhRhu4pHcw

Probably, or else they'd need to file a new application.

Seems like a troll project tbh, can't find much on Regalian LLC (the developers). If they've never built anything before I doubt a near 1k foot tower would be their first.

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As much as I’d like spire on top of this building, maybe make the rooftop a public park with an elevator that goes straight from the ground to roof?

That'd be cool

pwright1 · #**9828** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 12:48 AM**

Brookfield Properties 64 story apt tower starting to peek above ground.

Blesha13 · #**9829** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 12:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by pwright1

Brookfield Properties 64 story apt tower starting to peek above ground.

Nice! It’s going at a snail’s pace, but nonetheless happy to see it peek above ground. I wonder how Fig+Pico is doing.

pwright1 · #**9830** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 12:57 AM**

colemonkee · #**9831** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 3:04 AM**

^ Oh wow, we're almost to the top of the podium!

scania · #**9832** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 3:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by colemonkee

^ Oh wow, we're almost to the top of the podium!

I noticed that today...I was stunned.

saybanana · #**9833** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 4:08 AM**

Im curious, that building construction next to the Target, dont know the name.
Will the units at the lower floors be looking right at the parking lot at an arms distance? It is a pretty tall parking structure.

Niftybox · #**9834** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 4:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by saybanana

Im curious, that building construction next to the Target, dont know the name.
Will the units at the lower floors be looking right at the parking lot at an arms distance? It is a pretty tall parking structure.

Yeah unless that it has podiums as well.

caligrad · #**9835** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 6:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by Doctorboffin

So, does this mean Figueroa center is dead?

https://planning.lacity.org/pdiscase...-hltbhRhu4pHcw

Sounds like a company that

1. Way over their head
2 .New to all this and don't understand how this process works
3. Planned on selling the project and then boom covid hit or
4. Covid.

Its not necessarily a bad sign. If it wasn't already under construction. A lot of stuff became a "Maybe" or "Will it or wont it" as soon as covid hit. I mean. We are still trying to figure out if theme parks will survive and how many routes does Metro plan on closing until further notice. But like the notice said "if you decide to complete the application, this termination wont stop the process and you can still use the stuff already completed with the process"

Ptown2downtown · #**9836** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 11:52 AM**

Anyone know the height in feet of the Grand Ave building?

Zapatan · #**9837** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by caligrad

Sounds like a company that

1. Way over their head
2 .New to all this and don't understand how this process works
3. Planned on selling the project and then boom covid hit or
4. Covid.

Its not necessarily a bad sign. If it wasn't already under construction. A lot of stuff became a "Maybe" or "Will it or wont it" as soon as covid hit. I mean. We are still trying to figure out if theme parks will survive and how many routes does Metro plan on closing until further notice. But like the notice said "if you decide to complete the application, this termination wont stop the process and you can still use the stuff already completed with the process"

Right, doesn't change the fact that it's a troll project though, doubt it'll happen in any case. Same with the new tallest (killed by Huizar scandal).

Nice to see Fig + Pico flying though (on another note), can't wait for Brookfield and its 500+ neighbor to do the same.

scania · #**9838** Posted **Dec 11, 2020, 11:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

can't wait for Brookfield and its 500+ neighbor to do the same.

I do wish the two, indirectly 3 towers were a little more staggered. For skyline view purposes.

BrandonJXN · #**9839** Posted **Dec 12, 2020, 1:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by badrunner

I hope the design changes. The current site plan leaves a lot to be desired.

My wishlist for the project:

-Make it a single tower. It doesn't have to be a supertall.
-Better integration of Angels Flight (right now it's an afterthought).
-Streetfront retail along Hill st.
-Forget about 4th st. (which doesn't have a lot of potential imo), re-orient the whole project along Hill st. more towards the NE corner of the lot (Angels Flight, Grand Central Market).

Just dust off the old Cal Plaza 3 plans. Half hotel/half condo building as opposed to an office building. Reimagine Angel's Knoll Park as well.

caligrad · #**9840** Posted **Dec 19, 2020, 5:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

Right, doesn't change the fact that it's a troll project though, doubt it'll happen in any case. Same with the new tallest (killed by Huizar scandal).

Nice to see Fig + Pico flying though (on another note), can't wait for Brookfield and its 500+ neighbor to do the same.

We'll see. Same was said about Metropolis, Oceanwide, Circa, etc. LOL. Every unbelievable project that seems toooo good to be true has always been meet with immediate skepticism if not a cold shoulder, especially when they have a big media blitz. The new tallest will end up like Gherys project on Grand. It'll sit idle for a while, might get a major height reduction to like half (which i honestly wouldn't mind) but i think it will eventually happen, even with new owners. This page goes through this with every project

and as soon as it breaks ground, we sigh, grunt and move on to the next doomsday prophecy for the next project which will most likely end up being the Luxe, Angels Landing or something else lol.