Why are californians often disliked outside of california?

[CaliNative]

California and Californians are often resented and the butt of jokes outside of the Golden State. Why? California gives you your entertainment and technology. It is the source of economic growth and innovation. People should like Californians and welcome them when they visit and move there. Once I was in Oregon eating in a restaurant and some jerk keyed my car paint job, I guess because it had a CA plate. I don't get it.

[bobdreamz]

Not on this forum but other forums particularly the political ones that I visit seem to have a intense hate towards your state as being some sort of socialist / communist bastion.
They complain about the state giving driver licenses to illegals and harboring them in your sanctuary cities. They also trash the state for the high cost of living, your homeless who live in tent camps near roads & they complain about how the homeless urinate / crap in public spaces in SF and drug addicts leaving used needles everywhere.
I mentioned this in the CA HSR thread that some conservative talk radio hosts were gloating over the fact that Newsom put a stop to the train construction because of the cost proving that it was a failed socialist project.

[Sun Belt]

Because Californians have been packing up and moving across state lines in large numbers since the millennium and before, they receive the bulk of the blame for things like increased traffic congestion, increase in cost of living, strains on budgetary issues, public programs, increased crime, increase in air pollution etc.

When you're in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado etc you hear this sentiment often.

[kcexpress69]

I've always said this....If you think California is hurting the United States, wait until it's gone. (it won't leave, but hypothetically, it would be bad for us in so many ways if it did)

[BrownTown]

Originally Posted by kcexpress69

I've always said this....If you think California is hurting the United States, wait until it's gone. (it won't leave, but hypothetically, it would be bad for us in so many ways if it did)

The same is true for pretty much every state. A country doesn't get stronger by splitting apart. Given how huge California is it would be an equally huge hit to the country if it were to go away.

As for the question at hand the reason is that California is the stereotypical liberal state just like Texas is the stereotypical conservative state. Each state therefore ends up being a punching bag for the other political side anytime something bad happens in that state.

But let's be real, when it comes to the most hated state New Jersey wins it by a mile. Every other state I've lived in the residents had an irrational love of the state (California is one of the biggest examples of this perhaps behind only Texas) but here in New Jersey even its own residents hate it! It's like everyone here feels the need to make up an excuse for being here. It's just until their kids go off to college, until they can retire or until they get a promotion and can afford to move to New York. Kind of sad really since NJ is actually a pretty decent state (except for the high taxes, corruption, etc ).

[tdawg]

New Yorkers can relate.

[Sam Hill]

Originally Posted by Sun Belt

Because Californians have been packing up and moving across state lines in large numbers since the millennium and before, they receive the bulk of the blame for things like increased traffic congestion, increase in cost of living, strains on budgetary issues, public programs, increased crime, increase in air pollution etc.

When you're in Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Arizona, Colorado etc you hear this sentiment often.

It's because California is the biggest state.

People in fast growing places -- especially in the West -- tend to blame the newcomers for their growing pains, and they see more newcomers from California than any other state. It can feel like a California invasion. Is this because California is experiencing some great exodus and people are leaving in droves? No. It's just the biggest state. Any time you have a lot of people moving in from other states, there will likely be more from California than any other state because one out of eight Americans are Californians.

In Colorado, the sentiment that Californians are invading is strong, but the fact is, approximately the same number of people are leaving Colorado for California every year as people leaving California for Colorado. It's basically an even trade, but because California's population dwarfs Colorado's, there no sense in California that there's any kind of Colorado invasion.

[the urban politician]

I don’t know of any California hate out here.

The only thing that could be an issue is when Californians come here temporarily for school and always bitch and moan about how they can’t wait to move back home, and how everything is so much better in California. I experienced that a lot in my schooling days living in Philly, Tennessee, and perhaps to a lesser degree in DC.

Lesson: when you move somewhere, don’t incessantly put down your host city. It’s bad manners

[Sam Hill]

Originally Posted by BrownTown

As for the question at hand the reason is that California is the stereotypical liberal state just like Texas is the stereotypical conservative state. Each state therefore ends up being a punching bag for the other political side anytime something bad happens in that state.

This is very true. I recently did a short stint as an over-the-road truck driver. I was delivering ranching/fencing equipment throughout the rural West. I felt like a fish out of water. There is a fierce culture war being waged in this country right now, and as long as I was out there, I was in enemy territory. Even though I'm a scruffy, blue-collar looking guy, I stood out somehow, and on multiple occasions, I got called "yuppie." (That word has a different definition in rural America. It basically means something like: city slicker who doesn't know where his food comes from and is probably a damn liberal.)

Anyway, I got looked up and down and asked where I was from constantly - usually with an air of suspicion. I would tell them and they would often give a response along the lines of, "Well at least you're not from California." (Which I guess means they don't like Denver either? Or don't like Colorado? Or don't like me?) California is absolutely despised in rural America. Absolutely despised. I heard it bashed over and over. I never fully understood it, but the common themes were:

- They're regulating themselves out of existence.
- They've got like eight genders over there and need like eight different bathrooms.
- They're trying to fuck up the economy because they're all worried about global warming.

[dimondpark]

People in other western states hate us because they blame CA transplants for increased traffic and increased cost-of-living, as well as the more left leaning attitudes they bring to their states.

Otherwise, the right media just *hates* our guts and has been on a decades long smear campaign against California and anything good that comes out of here, all due to politics.

[M II A II R II K]

They’re jealous that it’s the 5th largest economy.

[BrownTown]

Originally Posted by Sam Hill

Anyway, I got looked up and down and asked where I was from constantly - usually with an air of suspicion. I would tell them and they would often give a response along the lines of, "Well at least you're not from California." (Which I guess means they don't like Denver either? Or don't like Colorado? Or don't like me?) California is absolutely despised in rural America. Absolutely despised. I heard it bashed over and over.

Honestly, I feel like the coastal cities fired the first salvo in that fight. When you basically call the vast majority of the country, "flyover states" it shouldn't be unexpected that they don't take kindly to that.

[bobdreamz]

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

They’re jealous that it’s the 5th largest economy.

I don't think that is even it. The hatred for CA surpasses anything I've seen compared to NYC even which is just as liberal.
Maybe NYC / New York gets a pass from the haters because of 9/11.

[James Bond Agent 007]

I think the hatred of Californians is mostly in other western states, where people complain that too many Californians are moving there. Around Seattle, for certain, that goes back at least to the early 90's.

Here around KC I don't anybody could care less.

[BrownTown]

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

They’re jealous that it’s the 5th largest economy.

California has the largest economy of the 50 states because it has the most people. It doesn't have the highest per capita income and its per capita income is actually below average if you adjust for the cost of living. There are certainly pockets of great wealth in California, but there are also pockets of extreme poverty and the high cost of living is a drag on all but the most wealthy.

[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by BrownTown

California has the largest economy of the 50 states because it has the most people. It doesn't have the highest per capita income and its per capita income is actually below average if you adjust for the cost of living. There are certainly pockets of great wealth in California, but there are also pockets of extreme poverty and the high cost of living is a drag on all but the most wealthy.

Pretty much.

If there is any resentment, it's more likely going to be related to unwanted progressive policies than anything to do with California's size

[LA21st]

Florida is the butt of jokes on many social media sites. Texas too.

Chicago and California are attacked because of political views by conservatives. Liberals make fun of Texas, the south and Florida. Even on sites like city data, it's places like Florida or Georgia being the most defensive about outsider views.

[BrownTown]

Originally Posted by LA21st

Florida is the butt of jokes on many social media sites. Texas too.

Chicago and California are attacked because of political views by conservatives. Liberals make fun of Texas, the south and Florida. Even on sites like city data, it's places like Florida or Georgia being the most defensive about outsider views.

The think I always find funny about this is that these "conservative" states aren't even remotely as conservative as California is liberal. For instance in the 2016 election Texas, Florida and Georgia went to Trump by margins of 9%, 1% and 5% whereas California went for Hillary by 30%. Calling those states conservative sort of misses the fact that 45%-49% of the people in them are liberal. These states define our view of conservative because they are the largest states that vote conservative (although Florida isn't really conservative at all) as opposed to the FAR more conservative states like Wyoming and North Dakota that are just really small and get overlooked.

[LA21st]

Originally Posted by BrownTown

The think I always find funny about this is that these "conservative" states aren't even remotely as conservative as California is liberal. For instance in the 2016 election Texas, Florida and Georgia went to Trump by margins of 9%, 1% and 5% whereas California went for Hillary by 30%. Calling those states conservative sort of misses the fact that 45%-49% of the people in them are liberal.

That maybe true but they're definitely on the Liberals attack list. Florida is always bashed, mainly by the younger crowd.

[mhays]

#1 is probably cultural as others are saying.

#2 is probably the volume of people moving to other places.

#3 is their ability to sell for $1,000,000 including $500,000 equity, and use it to pay cash in mid-priced cities.