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Old Posted Sep 28, 2018, 9:36 PM
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Nice boots on the ground update JDawg. That's the difference between owning and renting. That may also explain why the site plan recently went inactive.


This is interesting. A permit was filed Wednesday (09/26) this week for the remodeling of the building (restaurant and bar).

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=762987


While the demo permit for the same building was approved the previous Wednesday (09/19).

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=762987
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The new site plan was filed today. So far the only tower info is:

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The applicant proposes construction of a residential tower with ground floor restaurant along with associated improvements.
https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=670084
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The new site plan was filed today. So far the only tower info is:



https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/perm...ertyrsn=670084
Well at least we know it won't include The Roosavelt.
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The formal site plan filing was added to the site plan application. Unfortunately the floor count and height was not included. But it will have 309 units and have 547,307 sq. ft. Dividing the building square footage by the site square footage (17,864) gives a very rough estimate of the floor count: 31.
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The formal site plan filing was added to the site plan application. Unfortunately the floor count and height was not included. But it will have 309 units and have 547,307 sq. ft. Dividing the building square footage by the site square footage (17,864) gives a very rough estimate of the floor count: 31.
I'm assuming the footprint going to he smaller? Maybe just the corner of 5th and Lavaca where the former Hudson and Republic Live venue is?
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The site plan with elevations is posted to AULCC. It is such a bad copy that I can't read the height. But it's taller than I thought at 45 floors. There is a 46 floor for mechanical.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...ts_PLAN_01.pdf

EDIT: The height is listed elsewhere in the site plan as 504'.
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The architect is Solomon Cordwell Buenz (SCB). They are based in Chicago with an office in San Francisco.

https://www.scb.com/
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Based on the elevations, It looks like alley access points are 5' below the entrance points along 5th street. So the tower may actually be 508'8" tall from it's lowest entrance to it's apex (top of parapet).
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The architect is Solomon Cordwell Buenz (SCB). They are based in Chicago with an office in San Francisco.

https://www.scb.com/
Same firm which designed Northshore.

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Same firm which designed Northshore.

Don't expect too much.
Honestly, I'm a fan of Northshore.

SCB has a pretty good portfolio; you can see they have some good design if the developer is loose financially and lets them fly. From the mass elevations I'm assuming it'll be another glass box though.
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Old Posted Jan 2, 2019, 9:28 PM
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The site plan with elevations is posted to AULCC. It is such a bad copy that I can't read the height. But it's taller than I thought at 45 floors. There is a 46 floor for mechanical.

ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/...ts_PLAN_01.pdf

EDIT: The height is listed elsewhere in the site plan as 504'.
I noticed at first how bad the elevations were. They were "blacked out" presumably with the way it was photocopied, but after I reopened the file after I saved it, they showed up more clearly and brighter.

The elevations show it as 503 feet 8 inches tall, but there's an alley on the building's south side between it and the Hotel ZaZa that drops down another 5 feet. So, rounding up the 503 feet 8 inches to the next foot gives you 504 feet, plus the extra 5 feet that the alley dips, and you get 509 feet.

The 45th and 44th floors are amenity levels. The highest residential level is the 43rd floor.

The elevations seem to show the design is pretty close to those preliminary renderings we saw. The tallest point on the tower faces south, which means it'll be a skyline changer from certain angles when viewed from the south.
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Posting the elevation images in the thread so everyone can see them easily





Both images from https://austin.towers.net/take-a-loo...lyn@towers.net
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Looks a bit like Ashton Austin, but taller.
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Looks a bit like Ashton Austin, but taller.
If this is brick, and doesn't have the complete lack of street-level interaction that the Ashton has, then I'm perfectly fine with that.
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If this is brick, and doesn't have the complete lack of street-level interaction that the Ashton has, then I'm perfectly fine with that.
Do we know it’s brick?
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Do we know it’s brick?
I was only going off of the comparison to the Ashton, which is brick.

Looking closer at those docs, I think it's actually not brick. It's all glass, and painted concrete. So at best, this will look like a square version of 5th and West.
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I don't think we know much of anything. I was only going off of the comparison to the Ashton, which is brick.
Just reading the elevation material tags above, it seems to be a glass box. That could of course change.
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The south elevation shows a large section of painted concrete up to about floor 30 (I can't read the elevation).

Immediately south of the building is an alley and then Hotel ZaZa, which has only 24 floors.

So the concrete section doesn't align in height or really match the north face of ZaZa since ZaZa has a cutout in the middle.

So, why do they have a large swatch of the building covered in concrete instead of glass?
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The south elevation shows a large section of painted concrete up to about floor 30 (I can't read the elevation).

Immediately south of the building is an alley and then Hotel ZaZa, which has only 24 floors.

So the concrete section doesn't align in height or really match the north face of ZaZa since ZaZa has a cutout in the middle.

So, why do they have a large swatch of the building covered in concrete instead of glass?
I think your concern here is that the concrete strip will be visible from the south over the top of the Hotel ZaZa, which is 24 floors, while this strip of concrete on this tower is 30 floors. However, the Hotel ZaZa is 305 feet tall, while the concrete strip is 307 feet high. That's going to be a pretty dense block with three high rises on it, and it's fairly unlikely that the concrete strip will be all that visible from the south. The "best view" of it will likely be from the southwest if you're far enough away, you might see it above the roof of The Plaza Lofts adjacent to it. I don't think it'll be visible at all from the south or southeast since it'll basically the same height as the Hotel ZaZa.

The 30th floor of this building will be 307 feet 2 inches, according to the elevations.
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The south elevation shows a large section of painted concrete up to about floor 30 (I can't read the elevation).

Immediately south of the building is an alley and then Hotel ZaZa, which has only 24 floors.

So the concrete section doesn't align in height or really match the north face of ZaZa since ZaZa has a cutout in the middle.

So, why do they have a large swatch of the building covered in concrete instead of glass?
My guess would be that it has to do with the percentage of allowable glass based on fire code.

There are different percentages of allowable glass based on how far away from the other property line the building is.
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