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"WHITE BOY COCKTAIL" What in blazes is that supposed to mean

It reminds me of the places, in Los Angeles, that used to be called "The White Spot". Remember those?

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Old Posted Mar 21, 2019, 11:39 PM
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Here's another label for tonight.


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It's a beautiful design. Hart = Heart

If I am not mistaken, there is a bar downtown that has a stag as a sign. (but I can't remember the name of the place) Surprise!
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I am a long time lurker on this thread and have finally joined this forum just to post my gratitude to the many contributors of both photos and context around them. It truly is fascinating.
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Most, if not all, of Cohen's businesses were fronts for his bookmaking operation, as was the paint store where his office was located. Even the Dincara Stock Farm in Burbank was a front, in this case for a casino. The La Brea Club had a crap game upstairs.

While Ben Siegel and Mickey Cohen were friends, there was no question who was the boss. The NY mob backed Siegel, and Cohen was the muscle that eliminated any competitors or threats to Siegel's Trans Continental Wire Service.

"On the other hand, there were a lot of jobs where it was necessary to use violence. For instance, when Benny was first getting set up in Los Angeles, he would command that somebody's head be busted, or more. And you did it because you're expected to without asking any questions...

Naturally I missed Benny. We were real close and he taught me many things. But to be honest with you, his getting knocked in was not a bad break for me. Pretty soon I was running everything out here. The people in the East called on me for all propositions - some of which I wish they had not found me home for."

Mickey Cohen: In My Own Words, Prentice-Hall, publisher
Is "Bugsy's" house still around? The city was corrupt back then (and maybe it still is ). Is it true Ben was trying to get into the movies? In the film they showed him doing screen tests. I read somewhere that Ben's role in "inventing" Las Vegas was exagerrated. Someone else actually had the idea for the Flamingo, and he just muscled in. But he did push the luxury resort idea, and spent what were then huge sums of his partner's $ finishing the Flamingo (and maybe raking off a few bucks for himself) that it sealed his fate. Vegas should erect a statue, or at least name a street after him, and one for his lady friend too. "Double Indemnity" is another great noir film I love, as is "Sunset Blvd". Another era.

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mystery steeple or old oil well?

Despite discussing Chutes Park numerous over the years, I am pretty sure we haven't seen this photograph of the chutes under construction.


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The photograph that is most like this one [HERE] doesn't include the triangular wooden object in the left foreground. At first I thought it was the steeple of an old church, but now I am not so sure.



A closer look.


detail

In certain places [lower half], it appears that you can see through it. And a bent piece of metal [I-Beam] is leaning against the left side.

Whatever it is, it appears to be in pretty bad shape.
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p.s. I remember discussing a church in proximity to the park...but that was the nearby Fiesta Park. wrong park.




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Photographs of Chutes Park can be found HERE

An additional photograph posted by FW can be found HERE

"Bronco Pictures" from Agricultural Park can be found HERE

2,500 sailors dine at Chutes Park. [c.1908] HERE


I could be wrong here but is the triangular thing a fence and the darker half its shadow?
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Is "Bugsy's" house still around?

Yes, Ben Siegel's house is still in Beverly Hills at 810 N. Linden Drive.

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On IMDB they have 14 locations where the Bugsy film was shot, but they don't list this one. Wonder why? Does Beverly Hills try to discourage things like that? There are other reasons to visit Linden Drive as well.

The film was shot there, and so was Bugsy on June 20, 1947. But, also of interest, Howard Hughes had crashed his XF-11 prototype plane almost directly across the street at 803 and 805 Linden Dr. less than a year earlier on July 7, 1946.

Also, the famous Witch's House (Spadena House) is right around the corner at 516 Walden Drive.
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If one likes movies and you live in Los Angeles there are opportunities to see classic films in various venues and, if one is of the mind to, you can plan an outing before or after to visit a location where it was filmed. Some friends and I have done that for films such as both Bugsy and The Aviator, Double Indemnity, The Outside Man and Model Shop, among others.
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Yes, Ben Siegel's house is still in Beverly Hills at 810 N. Linden Drive.

America Revisited

Chen's&Chai

Chen's&Chai

On IMDB they have 14 locations where the Bugsy film was shot, but they don't list this one. Wonder why? Does Beverly Hills try to discourage things like that? There are other reasons to visit Linden Drive as well.

The film was shot there, and so was Bugsy on June 20, 1947. But, also of interest, Howard Hughes had crashed his XF-11 prototype plane almost directly across the street at 803 and 805 Linden Dr. less than a year earlier on July 7, 1946.

Also, the famous Witch's House (Spadena House) is right around the corner at 516 Walden Drive.
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If one likes movies and you live in Los Angeles there are opportunities to see classic films in various venues and, if one is of the mind to, you can plan an outing before or after to visit a location where it was filmed. Some friends and I have done that for films such as both Bugsy and The Aviator, Double Indemnity, The Outside Man and Model Shop, among others.

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Poor Bugsy was reading the newspaper.....whoa, when all of a sudden he became the news. The house is the Virginia Hill mansion.....btw, she was not at home that day.
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Is "Bugsy's" house still around? The city was corrupt back then (and maybe it still is ). Is it true Ben was trying to get into the movies? In the film they showed him doing screen tests. I read somewhere that Ben's role in "inventing" Las Vegas was exagerrated. Someone else actually had the idea for the Flamingo, and he just muscled in. But he did push the luxury resort idea, and spent what were then huge sums of his partner's $ finishing the Flamingo (and maybe raking off a few bucks for himself) that it sealed his fate. Vegas should erect a statue, or at least name a street after him, and one for his lady friend too. "Double Indemnity" is another great noir film I love, as is "Sunset Blvd". Another era.

Since Siegel palled around with the likes of Cary Grant, Frank Sinatra, and Jean Harlow, it would not have been difficult for him to arrange a screen test. You're correct about Siegel's role in "inventing" LV, as Billy Wilkerson had the vision for the hotel.http://bit.do/WILKERSON

In THE GODFATHER PART II, Moe Greene's character was inspired by mob-connected Gus Greenbaum and Moe Sedway.http://bit.do/GREENBAUM http://bit.do/SEDWAY

Siegal also had a home in Holmby hills, and there is an interesting story about his attempt to avoid arrest. http://bit.do/HOLMBY-HILLS-HOME

After Mickey Cohen's home in Brentwood was bombed, http://bit.do/COHEN-PHOTOS and he went to prison for a few years, he leased a home in Van Nuys, CA.
http://bit.do/COHEN-HOUSE A HS buddy lived just around the corner, and Amanda Blake http://bit.do/AMANDA-BLAKE lived two blocks the other way. (Nice lady, I never saw Cohen.)

A few facts about Siegel. http://bit.do/BUGSY-SIEGAL

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Thank you for the very kind message, MatP in Aus. We try our best.
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Poor Bugsy was reading the newspaper.....whoa, when all of a sudden he became the news. The house is the Virginia Hill mansion.....btw, she was not at home that day.
But his good friend Al Smiley was sitting on the sofa next to Ben when the assassin opened fire. Al's daughter wrote a good book about her father, Cradle of Crime : A Daughter's Tribute by Luellen Smiley
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Allen Smiley, producer turned gangster.


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I haven't heard of him before BDiH. (how'd I miss him?)
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