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Michigan Rail Proposals & News

Decided to start a list on all of the active studies and/or proposals on the expansion of rail service in Michigan. Realitically, none of these has real chance to move forward until there is a change in political power in the state government, part of which could very likely change next year. Anyway...

Coast-to-Coast: A ridership and cost study was completed last year on the passenger service that would linke Michigan's three-largest metropolitan services: Detroit, Grand Rapids, and Lansing. I believe the last service between these three cities ended in 1971 when Amtrak was formed and everything became Chicago-based in the state.

At present time, Route #1 (via Lansing & Jackson) and Route #2 (via Howell) are being studied. Route #3, though the most direct, was dropped because ridership would be too low skipping Ann Arbor. Route #2 would be more expensive than #1, but have a higher return on investment. Route #1 is cheaper (because part of the trip would use rail with an existent passenger service) with higher ridership potential, but a lower ROI. Both 79 MPH and 110 MPH services were studied. 79 MPH services would require government operating subsidies. 110 MPH service would pay for itself by 2030. The 110 MPH services studied were 4-to-8 trips (roundtrip) daily.

The next step, a full feasibility study and environmental assessment study. The project has been supported by most of the chambers of commerce and visitor's bureaus along the line, and quite a few of the local and county governments.



WALLY (Washtenaw-and-Livingston Line)/North-South Commuter Line: This 27-mile service would central Livingston County with Ann Arbor. This long-time study was started in response to the deficient US-23 link between the two communities and how much money it'd cost to expand that freeway ($500 to $600 million). While the temporary solution was a nearly completed project to use the center shoulders have on-demand travel lanes, there is no immediate plan to fully expand the freeway.

An 18-month feasibility study was started in the first quarter of 2015. Early findings include that depending on the type of service (shuttle or full) caital costs range from 65 million to $122 million, way less than to expand the freeway in any case. There would be three stops in between Howell and Ann Arbor.



A2TC: A feasibility study is close to beginning this fall on a rail proposal studying connecting Ann Arbor with Traverse City in Northern Michigan. This one has the support of the Director of the Michigan Department of Transportation, and is largely focused on economic development (Northern Michigan's tourist sector continues to grow) and the fact that the State of Michigan owns the rail along the route cutting the costs of such a project way down. It's why it's in the state's rail plan. 90% of the tracks are ready for passenger rail service should this ever happen. Nonprofit Groundwork Center for Resilient Communities hopes to raise funds this year to start demostration riders sometime next year.



There is also the Ann Arbor-Detroit Regional Rail, which was the closest to happening, but the RTA's master plan failed by a narrow 50.5% to 49.5% margin last fall. The RTA will hopefully come back in 2018 and win this one.

Other news includes the ongoing upgrading of Amtrak's Michigan Line, which included the West Detroit Connection Track project completed in December 2015 speeding up the Wolverine approach into central Detroit.


Amtrak’s Wolverine passenger trains between Chicago and Detroit have begun using a new curve at West Detroit Junction by mwmbwls, on Flickr

They also added 9 mile miles of double track from Dearborn to Wayne to speed up the trip further seperating freight and passenger traffic.
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Ann Arbor is looking like it has the potential to be quite the hub in the Michigan system.
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Yep. Because it's already on the mainline (Michigan Line) between Chicago and Detroit and because of the University of Michigam being located, there, it's already the busiest station in the state. Grand Rapids Lansing and would also see some significant increases in ridership as they'd now both me much better connected to the Michigan Line in southern Michigan. Currently, the entire inter-city system is built around a hub in another state (Chicago). There are zero direct rail connections to Detroit via Grand Rapids, Lansing and Flint, the state's 2nd, 3rd and 4th largest metropolitan and urban areas respectively because of this Chicago hub model.

Within Metro Detroit, itself, Amtrak has its service split between five different stations (Dearborn, Detroit, Royal Oak, Troy and Pontiac). The area would really benefit from a restart of service to/through Canada, again.
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The Michigan Department of Transportation posted two photos (https://twitter.com/MDOT_Rail) of Amtrak testing the new Siemens SC-44 Charger diesel-electric locomotives along the Michigan Line last week:





Apparently, the states are going to own these, so they won't have to make lease payments to Amtrak, anymore.
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Apparently, the states are going to own these, so they won't have to make lease payments to Amtrak, anymore.
Yes - a very convenient arrangement for the various states - although every penny that paid for them came from Federal funding, whether it was ARRA or TIGER program. State funding sources - either from subsidies or fares - is going to pay for maintaining them.

When shell games over ownership are being played to build new equipment for "intercity" passenger trains, it just points out how close they are becoming extinct.

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Those Chargers hauling a hideous mixed rake of Amfleets and Heritage looks like a brand new pair of Jordans on a corpse.
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Those Chargers hauling a hideous mixed rake of Amfleets and Heritage looks like a brand new pair of Jordans on a corpse.
Yes, this is what they drag along on the Wolverine. A few Horizon coaches and an Amfleet cafe/business car. In the winter they use Superliner coaches on some of the trains.

Apparently, MDOT has put in a bid for bi-level Nippon Sharyo coaches and we're supposed to see something by next year at the latest, but some layoffs in January threatens the timeline.
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Yes, this is what they drag along on the Wolverine. A few Horizon coaches and an Amfleet cafe/business car. In the winter they use Superliner coaches on some of the trains.

Apparently, MDOT has put in a bid for bi-level coaches and we're supposed to see something by next year at the latest, but I have no idea what they want to purchase.
Those are the Nippon Sharyo cars that just failed their crush test. Unfortunately the money from the Federal Government expires in September and it's questionable whether the political will exists to extend the deadline.
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Those are the Nippon Sharyo cars that just failed their crush test. Unfortunately the money from the Federal Government expires in September and it's questionable whether the political will exists to extend the deadline.
The crush test failure was over a year ago. Nippon Sharyo laid off 100 employees in January, and just yesterday, they announced yet another 110 job cuts, supposedly in labor and management this time.

This has been discussed at length on other boards. But the consensus by many seems to be that N-S tried to design their new bi-level based on its gallery car that they have been building for many years. The problem is that the gallery cars have a center sill, whereas the new bi-level doesn't, which might help explain its crush test failure.

The chances of seeing new railcars on the Midwest routes any time soon, if at all, looks bleak, indeed
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Oh, for some additional context about which this is all taking place, the Michigan Services have had quite a few station rebuilds since 2011 (most 2014 forward).

2011

Pontiac Transportation Center


IMG_2500 A by mhellekjaer, on Flickr

John Dingell Transit Center (Dearborn)


Amtrak 355 - Dearborn, Michigan by Tyler Pate, on Flickr

Troy Transit Center


Bright Lights, Small Station by Darryl Wattenberg, on Flickr


First Amtrak 355 Departs TRM by Darryl Wattenberg, on Flickr

Vernor Ehlers Center (Grand Rapids)


Amtrak Station Lit Up by John Eisenschenk, on Flickr


Amtrak Grand Rapids by John Eisenschenk, on Flickr

2015

Capital Area Multimodal Gateway (Lansing)


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Amtrak station stop. by kevin pulling, on Flickr

Aside from the new constructions, Jackson and Battle Creek (2012) have been modernized or are still being renovated.

Jackson Station


MI Jackson Depot-3 by Jan Davis Ruthig, on Flickr

Battle Creek Transportation Center


amtrak 353 battle creek by Brent Kneebush, on Flickr

Ann Arbor has had quite a few setbacks, but it's now back on the path for a new station. The prefered site seems to be east of the current site on Fuller Road near the medical center.
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I went to Cereal City from Chicago a couple times back in 2014 to visit family. I think they were all Heritage if my memory serves me. It made pretty good time. No complaints. Sis moved to Indy though so no need to go again except for fun...
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Ostensibly about a Windsor-Toronto high-speed service, but Michigan media is reporting it because there is passing mention of trying to eventually hook Detroit into the system. It's sad that cross-border service ever ended. I'd definitely use a service from Detroit to Toronto.

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Mel Evans | AP

Windsor-Toronto in 2 hours? Canada eyes high-speed rail

By Teresa Baldas | Detroit Free Press

May 21, 2017

An ambitious high-speed rail plan that would get travelers from Windsor to Toronto in just two hours is gaining steam in Canada — and there's even talk about one day extending the line to Detroit.

According to the Ontario government, the province is going to spend $15 million to begin the process of building a high-speed rail line on which trains will move at speeds of up to 155 m.p.h. an hour between Windsor and Toronto. Requests for design bids are set to go out this fall.

While the project is years away from becoming a reality, a transportation expert has recommended that Ontario work with Michigan on plans for future expansion of the rail service to the U.S. Trains would enter the country via Detroit through the existing rail tunnel that runs under the Detroit River west of downtown.
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The report recommends that the high-speed rail line include the following stations: Toronto Union Station, Pearson Airport, Guelph, Kitchener-Waterloo, London, Chatham and Windsor.
This is still well over a decade out, but it's good to see they are putting in the steps to make this happen. Hopefully, the timeline can be sped up. As for Detroit, since they'd use the existing rail tunnel under the river, it would only make sense that the terminus be at Michigan Central Station or at somewhere along the line between West Detroit Junction and the tunnel.
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