noirish Los Angeles

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Could those be walnuts beyond the two trees framing the shot? I can't make out the foliage of the obscured trees, just that their trucks are painted white.

The foreground trees almost look like Casuarinas, commonly called Horsetail Pines, although they're not pines at all. I'm getting out on a limb a bit, but I bet odinthor knows

Hmmmmm . . . They somehow look familiar, like something I saw in the parking lot at Knott's Berry Farm a thousand years ago (Walter Knott seems to have had a sort of hobby of planting odd and exotic trees in the parking lot; and chickens were always running all over the place, too; it was kind of cool); but, at the moment,

[jg6544]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Because disaster porn isn't news coverage. Plus the hyperbole causes actual, but unfounded, worry. Grandpa, 93 and in London, rang with real trepidation fearing his grandchildren had been incinerated as he slept (this in response to the NYT specifically).

It does come in handy when you live 2 miles from an out-of-control fire and are wondering whether you're going to have to evacuate.

[GaylordWilshire]

There you go

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Well, let's just say that I know of no one in NY who gives even a tiny thought about what the LAT writes about us or what Angelenos think of New Yorkers.... Seems to be a perennial one-way worry....

Just like a New Yorker, thinking that Angelenos worry about what they think.

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Concerning news coverage:
The same kind of news coverage happens whenever anything major is going on in any city. I talked to a friend of mine who lived in NYC during 9/11 and asked him what it was like there and he said "You know how whenever we had an earthquake in L.A. that everyone would call us thinking we were affected? It's the same here now. Unless you're really close to the towers, you wouldn't know anything was going on really. I'm looking out my window and things would just seem normal if you didn't know these events were going on elsewhere."

A couple friends I know who have lived in both L.A. and New York for at least a decade in each place--their observation is that New Yorkers have to feel they and their city are the best, number one, etc. and Angelenos are more like, "Great, yeah, fine, okay, whatever."

Like the nightly talk shows from New York...remember the Late Night intro? "From New York...the greatest city in the world..." "Great, yeah, fine, okay, whatever."



I'm not trying to put down either place. I can't comment on living in New York, but I did live in New York State for 20 years. But I have no complaints about my visits to NYC. I love my visits to every city I've been in because every place has something good to offer.

[ProphetM]

Originally Posted by HossC

That's Broadway looking north from 2nd Street. Here's a wider view from about 10 years later. I didn't find Spear's, but the blade sign just to the right of the foreground pole is for Mason's Opera House. On the left is the Frost Building.


USC Digital Library

Thanks for your help! Sorry about the late response; I don't get to check in with the thread very often right now.

[FLL David]

Yes, the "P" streetcar puts it on Broadway

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by sopas ej

There's a street in the eastern part of Pasadena called Michillinda Avenue. Michillinda is a hybridization of Michigan, Illinois and Indiana.

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Tournament of Roses parade, 1910.


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I'm a bit baffled by "Michillinda"*.
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*I located a Michillinda Park, but I'm unsure why it would have a float in the 1910 Rose Parade.


https://www.topoquest.com/place-detail.php?id=245846

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Perhaps the float was intended to publicize the Michillinda subdivision, which was so nice someone
even wrote a song about it.


Here's a Michillinda house, 764 Michigan Blvd.:



Aug 2014 GSV


Here's 764 Michigan Blvd. about 100 years earlier:



The Western Architect, Aug 1914 @ Hathitrust


The articles linked to above, as well as this one, all name James B. Forbes as head of the company developing Michillinda.


The Western Architect, October 1914:



Hathitrust


The distinctive chimney was a big help in locating the old Forbes home, now apparently divided into
3723-25-27-29 Huntington Drive:



Apr 2017 GSV

[ethereal_reality]

Wow, good eye FW!

It's hard to believe 3723 was once a stately home.

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

The distinctive chimney was a big help in locating the old Forbes home, now apparently divided into
3723-25-27-29 Huntington Drive:

That's extraordinary FW. Thank you. Boggling that a early 20th century Prairie-style home could be transformed into a mid-century-looking apartment complex with so few changes.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

A nurse and her patient get some fresh air on the fire escape at Good Samaritan Hospital, Los Angeles.


1910s ebay

I believe your photo looks east down Orange Street, with a bit of the old Shatto home in the background. The two ladies
seem to be out on the top-floor fire escape at upper right in this undated photo looking at the Good Samaritan Hospital
at the NE corner of Orange and Witmer. That's the old O. T. Johnson home next door:



SCWHR-P-005-N0251 at Seaver Center


This photo was taken one block east, looking at the NW corner of Orange and Lucas. From right to left we see the
Shatto house, the Johnson house, and then I think a bit of the hospital building. LAPL dates the photo c. 1905,
which would be too early since the hospital is not in that location on the 1910 Baist Map -- it was still on the south
side of 7th Street, between Figueroa and Francisco:



00067294 @ LAPL


I'm not sure if we've seen that 7th Street Good Samaritan Hospital, which the December 25, 1904, Los Angeles Times
describes as "now nearing completion" (new construction as well as remodeling of existing structures). The improvements
are credited to Theodore Eisen. This photo of Good Samaritan Hospital is dated 1905:



SCWHR-P-077-224 at Seaver Center

[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for the follow-up Flyingwedge.

I was curious about the buildings down the street but I wasn't sure which direction we were facing.



I thought this was interesting.

"Aerial view of night lights of Los Angeles Airport Fog System, 1949."


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[ethereal_reality]

DEMENTIA, 1955



Dementia is an fascinating little film that has no dialogue, only the narrator speaks.




just an example.

at 9:20



I'm also looking for some help with a couple locations.

Is anyone familiar with a store named Brubakers?


11:13


around the 23:23 mark there is a scene that takes place in an impressive interior with a grand staircase.



I'm pretty sure this isn't a sound stage.





Starting at 36:21 there's a view of this street.



It's the first scene in a chase through the streets of Venice...but this doesn't look like Venice to me.
(could it be a different location and spliced in



At 36:47 the chase begins in earnest:

A panicked woman is chased by a police car through the shadowy alleyways and streets of Venice.





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This is truly a strange little film that has to be seen to be believed.

• Video Link

Year: 1955

Director: John Parker

Stars: Adrienne Barrett, Bruno VeSota, Ben Roseman
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May I suggest a few glasses of wine and recreational drugs to help you get through it.

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[BillinGlendaleCA]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

DEMENTIA, 1955



Dementia is an fascinating little film that has no dialogue, only the narrator speaks.


I'm also looking for some help with a couple locations.


around the 23:23 mark there is a scene that takes place in an impressive interior with a grand staircase.



I'm pretty sure this isn't a sound stage.

This is truly a strange little film that has to be seen to be believed.

• Video Link

Year: 1955

Director: John Parker

Stars: Adrienne Barrett, Bruno VeSota, Ben Roseman
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May I suggest a few glasses of wine and recreational drugs to help you get through it.

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Nope, it's not a sound stage. It's the lobby of the old Order of the Elks place at MacArthur Park(currently The MacArthur).

NLA_Capture_01 by Google Screen Capture, on Flickr

[Godzilla]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

DEMENTIA, 1955



Dementia is an fascinating little film that has no dialogue, only the narrator speaks.

just an example.

at 9:20

That is Angelo Rossitto, previously mentioned on NLA.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=40346

[CityBoyDoug]

I watched this film in FastFoward. This might well be inspired by the life of Elizabeth Short plus its a desperate homage to countless films and directors.
What say others?


https://i.pinimg.com/564x/84/43/b9/8...a-tv-movie.jpg

Now I'm gonna have nightmares for month.... I wonder if Elisa Lam of Cecil Hotel fame ever saw this?

link to Elisa Lam:
https://youtu.be/cJ_E6l1P86U


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gF-NXl8d3j...m20.art_2.jpeg

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

DEMENTIA, 1955
I'm also looking for some help with a couple locations.

Is anyone familiar with a store named Brubakers?



Starting at 36:21 there's a view of this street.



It's the first scene in a chase through the streets of Venice...but this doesn't look like Venice to me.
(could it be a different location and spliced in

Brubaker's Pillow Renovators was at 1014 N. Highland.... Down the street at 940 was/is the famous Highland Avenue Dog & Cat Hospital—which w'eve seen on NLA before—seen at left in the second shot above....

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Godzilla

That is Angelo Rossitto, previously mentioned on NLA.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=40346

Rossitto (1908-1991) was in the picture business from 1927 to 1987 often in uncredited roles like "Dementia". In another of those, "Mr Wong in Chinatown" (1939), he played a Chinese (unconvincingly) mute (quite affectingly) who holds the key as to who murdered a visiting Chinese princess. However, Rossitto's character disappears without a trace until (Spoiler Alert) Mr Wong figures out the little man was also done away with by the perp and buried in a miniature coffin in the pet cemetery in lieu of the perp's doberman.


ETA:

Jebbe and Bruno Ve Sota, the Flower Girl and Rich Man from "Dementia" were married from 1953 until 1976 (his death). They had six children.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Rossitto (1908-1991) was in the picture business from 1927 to 1987 often in uncredited roles like "Dementia". In another of those, "Mr Wong in Chinatown" (1939), he played a Chinese (unconvincingly) mute (quite affectingly) who holds the key as to who murdered a visiting Chinese princess. However Rossitto's character disappears without a trace until (Spoiler Alert) Mr Wong figures out the little man was also done away with by the perp and buried in a miniature coffin in the pet cemetery.

Instead of being exalted, these diminutive performers are almost always exploited....one way or another.


http://1.fwcdn.pl/ph/48/76/34876/406602.1.jpg

[John Maddox Roberts]

Interesting to see "noir" used in a cinematic context so early, even though it's "The Beat-Noir Nightmare Cult," whatever that is supposed to mean. I don't think I heard the term "film noir" prior to the early 80s. I know that French film enthusiasts were using it earlier.

Edit: Just watched in on Youtube. That is some prime crazy noir stuff there, with a stiff dose of Freud tossed in. Sometimes a cigar.....
During one of the chase scenes I thought I saw a sign for "Venice Hardware." Was there such a business?

[ethereal_reality]

You're correct JMR.

Here's the sign you mentioned. (upper right hand corner)



Is that a fish?
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Originally Posted by BillinGlendaleCa

Nope, it's not a sound stage. It's the lobby of the old Order of the Elks place at MacArthur Park.

That was my guess too but I wasn't sure. -thanks BGC.


I wonder if the statue in the middle of the lobby is real or a studio prop placed there for the movie?





I checked and it isn't there now.


lacurbed

If the statue was real what happened to it?

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