NEW YORK | 30 Fletcher Street | 302 FT | 31 FLOORS

[Duck From NY]

Originally Posted by NYguy

It's an ugly piece of crap. But I suppose it's a good sign that it's getting built. Another move in the right direction. I remember someone saying once before during the financial crisis that the good thing about it was a lot of this crap won't get built. But I'd rather have this crap built along with everything else rather than have nothing get built at all. In other words, we take the bad with the good.

I generally agree with your sentiment. I don't want a New York where the residents are like some Europeans, scrunching their eyes at every new building. I will say, though, that it would be nice to have a little more of an understanding between New Yorkers and the city's power brokers where buildings were expected to be less cookie-cuter. In reality, though, that would also result in increased NIMBYism and endless debate. One of the many things I like about New York's skyline is it's complete lack of uniformity (other than it's lay-out), and at times, even it's ugly buildings.

[mrnyc]

were there known plans for this site before the financial crisis?

[Dylan Leblanc]

nothing that I know of

[RobertWalpole]

Originally Posted by mrnyc

were there known plans for this site before the financial crisis?

You're thinking of 161 Maiden Lane nearby, which is a different project.

[mrnyc]

from yesterday - here is the site:

[Danielson27]

not much too look at!!

[RobertWalpole]

It's a lame tower but is on a small lot and will be obscured by whatever rises at 161 Maiden. NYC needs relatively cheap hotels to meet tourists' needs. Most people can't afford to spend $350+ per night.

[kingcity]

i like this tower.
so will the build the tower over a part of the fletchner street?

[Roadcruiser1]

Originally Posted by kingcity

I like this tower. So will they build the tower over a part of the Fletcher Street?

No. It's supposed to be built on a parking lot next to Fletcher Street.

[Roadcruiser1]

Originally Posted by Danielson27

Not much to look at!!

Now I know what people were talking about. This building looks horrible. It's crap basically sitting on the skyline of one the most important and busiest cities in the world. Just horrible.

[Dac150]

It's hardly noticeable considering it's essentially engulfed by its surroundings.

[mrnyc]

^exactly. i was immediately unworried about it after a look at the site and the setting. very unubtrusive spot. and tourists will love it for the tkts booth & the seaport - ha.

[SkyscrapersOfNewYork]

It has zero skyline impact...what is everyone complaining about. Were you expecting another NY by Ghery here?

[yankeesfan1000]

Thanks for that sketch up. Confirms what most New Yorkers, or people familiar with the area knew, which is that you have to actually look for this thing in the skyline to even notice its there. If you weren't specifically looking for this building in a skyline shot, the chances you'd even realize it existed are basically zero.

The design could certainly be better but this will full an empty lot downtown, I don't see what the fuss is. I think the real story line with this building is how slender it'll be, and why I'm not asleep.

[reencharles]

Does anyone have this model in 3D to download Google Earth?

[Danielson27]

Originally Posted by reencharles

Does anyone have this model in 3D to download Google Earth?

Here you go did it in like 10 minutes

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...e4&prevstart=0

[Crawford]

I'm surprised folks are doing sketches and the like for such a minor, anonymous building.

There are probably around 30-40 similarly sized hotels planned in Midtown, mostly in the West 20's, 30's and 40's. Just walk down any side street, and you will see the lots with the relevant info (required DOB signage). Some blocks have 4 or 5 such sites.

Some are u/c or under demolition, though many or most are coming soon.

Even in the Financial District, there are at least a dozen of these hotels planned or u/c. Same goes for Downtown Brooklyn, Long Island City, Hudson Square/West Soho area.

[reencharles]

Originally Posted by Danielson27

Here you go did it in like 10 minutes

http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehou...e4&prevstart=0

Thank you man.
I love seeing these new models in google earth so I can get a better idea of how the project will be given different views.

I had downloaded their other models before.
Your models are incredible. Have you thought about making models of the projects: Gem Tower, 1715 Broadway, Hyatt Times square 131-139 W 45th St (all currently under construction) ? : D

[Eidolon]

I honestly don't understand what all of this fuss is about. This building isn't some sort of atrocity against the sky line waiting just waiting to happen, because even though it may end up having subpar cladding it won't actually alter it in any way thanks to its miniscule proportions.

[Danielson27]

Originally Posted by reencharles

Thank you man.
I love seeing these new models in google earth so I can get a better idea of how the project will be given different views.

I had downloaded their other models before.
Your models are incredible. Have you thought about making models of the projects: Gem Tower, 1715 Broadway, Hyatt Times square 131-139 W 45th St (all currently under construction) ? : D

thanks!!...I have not, but I could certainly do them