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Looking at the last three photos it really makes me question metro population size numbers (cough Boston). Boston is twice as big as Vancouver and only has a million less people than Toronto....yeah right.
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Looking at the last three photos it really makes me question metro population size numbers (cough Boston). Boston is twice as big as Vancouver and only has a million less people than Toronto....yeah right.
The Boston metro's population density is mostly coastal. If you scrolled to the right and/or straight down, the density continues for many miles. The parts shown in the background (top part of the pick) are heading out towards the hinterlands. Heck, the densest city in New England (Somerville) is completely off screen to the right side of the picture!

This first below pic shows the extent of it a little bit better. Even this is missing the entire North Shore density which includes places such as Lynn (over 90k people), Revere (over 50k people), Peabody (over 50k people) and tons of other relatively dense suburbs. I think it just misses Malden and Medford (60k+ and 80k+ respectively). Other missing cities that are part of the metro include Lowell (over 110k, the country's original "mill city"), Worcester (185k), Lawrence (80k).... You were judging the whole metro on a tiny slice of it, and even the next picture is missing most of the extended metro area.

Also note that Boston's buildings are typically much bigger than Vancouver's buildings, and the old city is dense to the point where it has 4 separate tracts over 100,000 people per square mile!

Scenes from the Air: Delta Airlines Flight 1462 (Detroit to Boston) - Tuesday April 16th, 2019 by Corey Seeman, on Flickr


Here's another one. A few years old but it shows more of the other direction. Still missing Lowell, Lawrence, Worcester.....

Martinique, December 2015 by Šarūnas Burdulis, on Flickr

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great aerials of Boston, I was just there last week.

people don't understand the concept of multi-nodal metros it seems.
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Nice pic! A huge amount of the middle portion, up to the river, is actually Somerville. The part beyond the river (with the smokestacks and big casino tower) is Everett. Cambridge is in the foreground, with Harvard Square in particular in the extreme foreground. Much of the Harvard campus is also showing.

Absolute none of what's in that pic is in the original pic I posted, but as we all know......
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Thank you for the cool photos, but have you been to Vancouver or Toronto? Downtown Boston does not feel or look bigger in person (or photos) compared to Vancouver and with Toronto it is not even close. Both metros also have highrise condos thoughout and dense neigborhoods. Boston looked small to me in person and the aerial photos do not sell me either, but maybe that is just moi.
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Thank you for the cool photos, but have you been to Vancouver or Toronto? Downtown Boston does not feel or look bigger in person (or photos) compared to Vancouver and with Toronto it is not even close. Both metros also have highrise condos thoughout and dense neigborhoods. Boston looked small to me in person and the aerial photos do not sell me either, but maybe that is just moi.
Your whole methodology is faulty. Let's remember that the actual statistical facts say that you're wrong. So what about how big downtown Boston by itself feels? Most of the residents live outside the immediate downtown, which is still office-centric although now building more residential buildings.

Scattered highrise condos alone don't make a metro dense. Do you really think those few apartment/condo towers sprouting up in the Vancouver suburbs add an additional 2 million people? Look at a city like Paris. You could make La Defense disappear and Paris would still have well over 10 million people, with hardly any skyline to speak of.

I went to Toronto many years ago and wasn't impressed at the time. Outside the downtown felt like a suburban hellscape that just happened to have tall buildings thrown in. Mississauga in particular is by far my least favorite (populated) area I have ever been in my life. Sterile, huge parking lots, too much space between buildings, and straight roads with hundreds of houses that looked exactly the same. I weep for humanity at the thought of Mississauga.

Boston should be compared more with Montreal (and in the US Philadelphia, maybe San Francisco). Most of the housing stock is lowrise and was there before highrise apartments became in vogue. Look at the first picture I posted. Do you not notice the insanely dense 4-6 story brick neighborhoods surrounding all of the skyscrapers? It might be easier to see in the original size. Those are where the 100,000/mile tracts are. I also think you are a little bit confused with the scale of the city itself. For instance, Boston has over 20 150 meter buildings compared to 6 in downtown Vancouver. You don't seem to realize that the picture of Vancouver appears to be taken from a much closer distance than that of Boston below it.

Then most of the lowrise houses surrounding Boston are multi family, in particular triple deckers. So instead of single family housing with bigger yards, there is just triple decker after triple decker, practically rubbing up against one another. These old-city lowrise neighborhoods are built much denser than we see today, and are where most of the population density comes from in the Boston area.

I leave you with a couple shots showing some of the lowrise density better (North End rowhouses, then Somerville triple deckers). Also, just remember, statistics say you're flat out wrong. But go ahead and keep arguing from your losing position if that's your thing.

C1009934 by Sean Sweeney, on Flickr

Sunset After the Storm by MitchcCaldwell, on Flickr
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Boston 1860, the worlds oldest surviving aerial photo



https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart...hoto-14756301/

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Best known for his photographs of Boston after the devasting fire of 1872, Black launched his solo career in 1860 with the production of a series of aerial photographs taken from Samuel King’s hot-air balloon the “Queen of the Air.”

… Black’s photographs caught the attention of Oliver Wendell Holmes, a poet and professor of medicine at Harvard, who gave this photograph its title. In July 1863, Holmes wrote in the “Atlantic Monthly”: “Boston, as the eagle and wild goose see it, is a very different object from the same place as the solid citizen looks up at its eaves and chimneys. The Old South and Trinity Church are two landmarks not to be mistaken. Washington Street slants across the picture as a narrow cleft. Milk Street winds as if the old cowpath which gave it a name had been followed by the builders of its commercial palaces. Windows, chimneys, and skylights attract the eye in the central parts of the view, exquisitely defined, bewildering in numbers…. As a first attempt it is on the whole a remarkable success; but its greatest interest is in showing what we may hope to see accomplished in the same directio
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I weep for humanity at the thought of Mississauga.
We all do. MissingSausage, as some wag here quasi-endearingly called it, has much abuse heaped upon it, but sadly it's well-deserved. It is the urban personification of banal and cookie-cutter.
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I actually had the same thought when I viewed that first aerial of Boston- it looked tiny. I actually really love Boston, and the city certainly did not feel small at all on the ground, other than the relative lack of skyscrapers. I don't think the dense lowrise building stock comes through very well in these aerials, and the distance between points looks shorter than I remember things being. I think the compression of distances, and the fact that you can see rural areas in the background are what make it look small.
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I actually had the same thought when I viewed that first aerial of Boston- it looked tiny....
It's a whole different story perusing the full size photo (except the more rural background to the west).

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I've never liked Austin's skyline. I think almost all the buildings are hideously suburban. Nothing outstanding or enhancing. I remember driving through there quite a few times back in 89 and I think it's lost whatever charm it had. Yet the people there sure love to over expose it with posting pictures of it repeatedly and at every opportunity. Nothing wrong with some pride. Toronto is another city that over exposes itself. Maybe it's a size thing?
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