Will Canada get a 400 meter skyscraper in the near future?

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Tridel, Daniels, Lanterra/H&R, Menkes? No.

well aren't you picky.

[caltrane74]

Originally Posted by BretttheRiderFan

A 400m in Toronto would divert too much attention from the CN Tower, which will remain the focal point of the skyline for as long as it's standing I'd wager.

And outside Toronto, I really can't see such a building anywhere in Canada.

Building a 400 meter tower is a money pit of losing money, so unless someone in Winnipeg, Quebec City or Edmonton loves burning useless money,I can't see a tower of that height there regardless of ego. Even in Toronto the financing will be a nightmare. Likely to cost over 2 billion dollars and require all suites to be in the range of multi-millions of dollars. This is the only way it happens....

[Dr Nevergold]

No, it won't.

[TallBob]

A few 300+ meter towers would be fine. I don't know about 400 meters. Toronto could conceivably build one.... Still very doubtful I think.

[Beedok]

Just you wait, Hamilton's next supertall proposal will surprise everyone. Most definitely.

[HomeInMyShoes]

If we count near in the scale of humans on Earth itself, then maybe. But that near would be in the 100 year range. In my lifetime, maybe, but the economics of building in Canada would need to change quite a bit to make this feasible.

[Mrs Sauga]

Maybe in a 100-200 years?

[Martin Mtl]

Laval will build one in a few centuries. Just wait. Be patient.

[RWin]

The first 50 floors would have enough space for 1 desk between the core and the window.

[Coldrsx]

Calgary or Toronto if anywhere, but very unlikely.

[Blader]

Perhaps, if it's lying on its side - oh, I wouldn't want that either.

[Habanero]

I highly doubt we'll see a 400m tower in Canada. Toronto is obviously the best bet, and it could still happen. Still hoping for a 300m in Calgary

[TorontoDrew]

If we do (Toronto) it will be like 432 Park Avenue(u/c) in NYC simple but sleek. At 426.1m and only 90 floors it's might be the most high end tower on the continent. If they built something like that here though they would probably need to cram a dozen or more floors in.

[Mrs Sauga]

400m with a spire?

[WhipperSnapper]

More floors or units would require another elevator and probably not make 432 Park worthwhile.

New York's zoning is very different than Toronto's too. As of right zoning is all about maximum densities. There aren't any height limits or shadowing concerns. There's a grassroots initiative as 57th Avenue goes superlux supertall to make them more of a concern. Here in Toronto, we don't have worthwhile as of right zoning but concerns over height and shadowing is much greater than density. The project densities here would have a tough time getting approved in New York. Both cities could learn from one another.

Don't see Calgary in the running. A 400 metre tower wouldn't currently be allowed there. There are places in Toronto it could get approved.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

Tridel, Daniels, Lanterra/H&R, Menkes? No.

Huh? As much as I'm not personally a fan of their product, Pinnacle is massive. Certainly could go toe to to financially with Daniels or Lanterra, and has the financial wherewithal to fund a 300M building. Whether their product makes sense to build that high is another question, but the limiting factor facing Pinnacle is not their size or experience.

[WhipperSnapper]

Huh? Lanterra is part of a family group of companies that is probably bigger than all those combined. The family developed The Bow in Calgary.

Daniels is a massive group from supply to construction management to developing property..

This wasn't to suggest Pinnacle can't pull off a 300 metre tower. It's probably the easiest time ever to do so. It is stictly about size of the company and they are not among the major developers in the city/country. Maybe if Pinnacle and Onni got along.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by BretttheRiderFan

A 400m in Toronto would divert too much attention from the CN Tower, which will remain the focal point of the skyline for as long as it's standing I'd wager.

That actually made me think - do structures like CN Tower have some structural lifespan? Can you keep a tower like that standing forever if just properly maintained and renovated?

First skyscrapers are soon 100 years old. I wonder if there will be a time when they have to be replaced/rebuilt for being too old and unstable?

In the fictional Life After People documentary series it seems that most buildings are expected to stand up to 200 years when not maintained.

[FrAnKs]

My bet on Quebec city... if they double Le Phare.

[Laceoflight]

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