Future Canadian Skylines

[Rico Rommheim]

Originally Posted by G.S MTL

a friend sent this to me..

Many of these are approved and some are under construction

Love it thanks for sharing G.S.

Of course...it omits the dozen or so Griffintown towers going up. They will also have a great impact from this view.

(And Altitude and TOM are missin )

[MolsonExport]

Originally Posted by G.S MTL

a friend sent this to me..

Many of these are approved and some are under construction

substantial changes for sure.

[Chadillaccc]

Awesome changes in store for Montreal even kindof giving a pinnacle to the skyline around 1250 as well!

[travis3000]

You don't often see future renders for Montreal, it's nice to see one. There are certainly some big changes on the horizon in the city over the coming 5 years. As I've mentioned before though, the real beauty of Montreal is on street level, the vibe you get while on foot/bike in the city. In that sense, nothing comes close in Canada.

[G.S MTL]

Originally Posted by travis3000

You don't often see future renders for Montreal, it's nice to see one. There are certainly some big changes on the horizon in the city over the coming 5 years. As I've mentioned before though, the real beauty of Montreal is on street level, the vibe you get while on foot/bike in the city. In that sense, nothing comes close in Canada.

you said it!!!

[RHINO]

I have a suggestion, its not a shot at Montreal by any means, but I would suggest using only summer time shots as the city doesn't look its best in Fall or Winter.

[Beedok]

A rendering of Hamilton I'm working on. Green is under construction, blue is proposed. Everything else exists. I still have a fair number of buildings left to add, but I've got all the major proposals and construction projects in at this stage and I'm not sure how clear they'll be later, so I thought I would post.

[caltrane74]

I ALREADY said the Montreal future rendering is amazing.

It has a London look to it!.

[Chadillaccc]

The Hamilton one looks great! Maybe just lighten up the green so it's a bit more noticeable

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

The Hamilton one looks great! Maybe just lighten up the green so it's a bit more noticeable

I was trying to use the colour from the maps on this website, but I do agree it's a bit hard to see. If I remember when I'm working on it again I'll lighten it.

[Chadillaccc]

Cool, thanks!
Is the Carmen Hotel proposal in that one? Or not cause they haven't selected a definite location yet...


Edit! now that I'm back on my laptop, the green is much more noticeable than my office comp.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Cool, thanks!
Is the Carmen Hotel proposal in that one? Or not cause they haven't selected a definite location yet...


Edit! now that I'm back on my laptop, the green is much more noticeable than my office comp.

Yes, I put it at it's most likely location. It's the ony peaking up from the middle of the skyline. It seems a bit too fat, but it's all very vague.

[SteelTown]

Looks great. The Connaught project would have a real impact to the skyline, almost two separate skylines, one on the East and West. Hopefully phase 2 of Lister Block project will help fill in the Gore Park area gap.

[Chadillaccc]

So carmen's isn't going to be very tall anymore than?

[thomax]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

So carmen's isn't going to be very tall anymore than?

Height hasn't changed, it'll still be a new tallest for the city. It might just be the way Beedok's picture is angled and the location of the building that makes it look shorter.




BTW, render looks awesome Beedok

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by G.S MTL

a friend sent this to me..

Many of these are approved and some are under construction

I'm definitely glad to see all the construction and I'm sure it'll improve the street level atmosphere. But honestly they don't seem to improve the skyline, at least from that angle. Yes, Montreal needs infill, but it would also be nice to see the skyline expanded either in terms of height or land area.

Make Les Jardins de Babylone and the Quartier des spectacles office tower 200m and that would improve the skyline from that angle significantly imo.

[Martin Mtl]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

I'm definitely glad to see all the construction and I'm sure it'll improve the street level atmosphere. But honestly they don't seem to improve the skyline, at least from that angle. Yes, Montreal needs infill, but it would also be nice to see the skyline expanded either in terms of height or land area.

Make Les Jardins de Babylone and the Quartier des spectacles office tower 200m and that would improve the skyline from that angle significantly imo.

As much as I like skyscrapers, I don't think one should plan a city with the skyline in mind. Skyline fascinates us on this forum, but it is very low on any serious urbanist's list of things that improves on the quality of life of a city. And so it should. Montreal doesn't need to expand its skyline, neither in terms of height or land area. Montreal needs inteligent, well planned, densification, with mostly human scale developpements. The real problem of Montreal is its destructured urban fabric here and there. Too many old contaminated land, too many surface parkings lot. Getting rid of them and using the land to enriched the urban fabric is much, much more important than the skyline.

I know I won't make any friends by saying that, but I think that Toronto would be better off now if it had build tons of midrises everywhere instead of very high towers.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

So carmen's isn't going to be very tall anymore than?

Originally Posted by MeIsThomas

Height hasn't changed, it'll still be a new tallest for the city. It might just be the way Beedok's picture is angled and the location of the building that makes it look shorter.

It is sort of behing everything by a fair bit. It also seems that while working on the roof angle system I accidental shortened it ten metres. (oops)

Originally Posted by MeIsThomas

BTW, render looks awesome Beedok

Thank you.

[RyeJay]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

As much as I like skyscrapers, I don't think one should plan a city with the skyline in mind. Skyline fascinates us on this forum, but it is very low on any serious urbanist's list of things that improves on the quality of life of a city. And so it should. Montreal doesn't need to expand its skyline, neither in terms of height or land area. Montreal needs inteligent, well planned, densification, with mostly human scale developpements. The real problem of Montreal is its destructured urban fabric here and there. Too many old contaminated land, too many surface parkings lot. Getting rid of them and using the land to enriched the urban fabric is much, much more important than the skyline.

I know I won't make any friends by saying that, but I think that Toronto would be bett nkow if it had build tons of midrises eerywhere instead of very high towrs.

Very well said. I'm glad that Montreal is focusing on infill. Even though many of the upcoming developments are mid-rises, many of them are very nicely designed.

And in terms of Toronto, I think I agree with your opinion. Perhaps Toronto's condo market would have been sustained for a much longer duration with fewer high-rises and more mid-rises. Of course there is still a steady pace of high-rise condo proposals for the downtown, but I anticipate a sharp slowdown soon.

(BTW: I do not WISH for a drop in high-rise construction in Toronto. It has been so much fun watching the downtown EXPLODE with new developments over the last decade.)

I could be wrong. We'll eventually find out what will become of the city's market, as sales are very likely to continue declining. Prices will begin falling at some point -- and I wonder just how far they'll fall?

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by Martin Mtl

As much as I like skyscrapers, I don't think one should plan a city with the skyline in mind. Skyline fascinates us on this forum, but it is very low on any serious urbanist's list of things that improves on the quality of life of a city. And so it should. Montreal doesn't need to expand its skyline, neither in terms of height or land area. Montreal needs inteligent, well planned, densification, with mostly human scale developpements. The real problem of Montreal is its destructured urban fabric here and there. Too many old contaminated land, too many surface parkings lot. Getting rid of them and using the land to enriched the urban fabric is much, much more important than the skyline.

I know I won't make any friends by saying that, but I think that Toronto would be bett nkow if it had build tons of midrises eerywhere instead of very high towrs.

It isn't so much a matter of it "fascinating" us; we're in a future skyline thread looking at renders of a future skyline, so that's the topic the thread is intended to be discussing. Whether or not Montreal "should" be building more skyscrapers is a somewhat tangential issue.

Besides, architecture is definitely an important issue to many serious urbanists, whether or not it improves the quality of life (if we only worried about practical quality of life issues our cities wouldn't be terribly interesting). And architectural aesthetics can be affected by a building's scale and proportions. It's one of the reasons I find downtown Toronto more appealing than downtown Montreal at street level. And personally, I see no reason why a few of the buildings that are filling empty lots can't also be a bit taller at the same time. Other than the height restrictions, there's no compelling reason that the downtown can't or shouldn't have both.