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"Mid 1950s Metropolitan Coach Lines Street Supervisor pulling out of Macy Street Yard, now Division 10."



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note the "Lumber" sign over on the right above the bus.
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re: Mabel Normand residence.

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526 N Camden Drive at Carmelita

It's been remodeled, but retains the same basic shape. This view is from Carmelita:

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The front:

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Thanks tovanger2 for the inforamtion and link.


http://looking-for-mabel.webs.com/3b...hillshouse.htm

Mabel Normand in front of her Beverly Hills home with driver, 1924.

here's my postcard again / for comparison


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Old Posted Nov 7, 2015, 8:09 PM
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After the Earthquake, March 10, 1933, San Pedro Calif.


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I wonder what the "Sailors Steel Locker Club" was? (the word "Lockers" appears on three different signs)

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Old Posted Nov 7, 2015, 9:32 PM
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"The toughest bar in L.A. history, Shanghai Red in San Pedro"


"Around 1927, Charlie Eisnenberg, who'd taken on the moniker Shanghai Red, returned to San Pedro and opened a bar on the town's
rather insalubrious Beacon Street called Shanghai Red. He was tough and quite capable of throwing out anyone who caused trouble (like he's doing in the photograph below)".


http://www.chinarhyming.com/wp-conte...x485-61662.jpg




-here's a view of the bar in color.


http://photobuff2.tripod.com/collect/clock.html



a postcard showing the interior bar








Signage is all that remains of the closed Shanghai Red Cafe at 5th and Beacon in this 1969 photograph.


http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...ghaiclosed.jpg




A screen-grab from a TV Movie of the Week called "The Old Man Who Cried Wolf" (1970)


https://spbxb.files.wordpress.com/20...nghai-reds.jpg

It's too bad it's so blurry. If anyone sees that "The Old Man Who Cried Wolf" is going to be on TV let me know, I'll get a better screen-grab.









As far as I can tell, the only time Shanghai Red has been mentioned on NLA is in the post below from July 2010!


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Bouncer, "Cairo Mary" escorts another customer who had a tad too much fun to the door of Shanghai Reds, 5th and Beacon San Pedro 1953


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After the Earthquake, March 10, 1933, San Pedro Calif.


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Before the earthquake:

1922:


1920s:


both photos: "San Pedro" by Joel McKinzie

You and Hoss have taken us here before:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18567

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18577

And now:

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Thanks tovanger2!

I really like the earthquake photo in Hoss' link http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18577
His photo (below) was taken from the opposite direction of my sepia photo (so you get a glimpse of the Harbor Hotel)

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This Julius Shulman photoset of the Aldama Apartments has both color and black & white pictures. Where they overlap, I've used the color image. We're looking at "Job 3681: Allyn E. Morris, Aldama Apartments (Los Angeles, Calif.), 1964".





These kids must be in their late 50s now - I wonder if they know that these images still exist.



Some of the side details, and a hint at the view from the apartments.



I sometimes tweak the colors of the images I post, but I've left these exactly as they were!



The interiors are still quite striking in black & white.



The black & white version of this image has someone standing by the unusual triangular hole.



Here's the baby's room.



And finally, the bathroom.



All from Getty Research Institute

The Aldama Apartments are still standing at 5030-5036 Aldama Street in Highland Park. It looks like the original steps have been replaced, and the center flight has been straightened. The property websites give a build date of 1961. For anyone who's interested, there are some recent interior pictures in an article at la.curbed.com.


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I really like the earthquake photo in Hoss' link http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18577
His photo (below) was taken from the opposite direction of my sepia photo (so you get a glimpse of the Harbor Hotel)
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"Contributing to San Pedro's sense of being its own town is the fact that it has its own downtown, and that (even though it hasn't served as such for over a century) the John S. Gibson Jr. Municipal Building is still usually referred to by locals as San Pedro City Hall. On its seventh floor is the old jail, affectionately nicknamed "Seventh Heaven." On the bottom floor is Old Fire Station 36 -- a firefighters museum open only on Saturdays" - kcet

Firefighter Museum: http://www.lafdmuseum.org/museum_sanpedro


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More info on "City Hall" here

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After the Earthquake, March 10, 1933, San Pedro Calif.


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I wonder what the "Sailors Steel Locker Club" was? (the word "Lockers" appears on three different signs)

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Good question ER.

The Navy did not allow sailors to have civilian clothes on Navy ships in those days. Therefore, the sailors kept their civilian clothes in a downtown ''locker club'' to wear when they went on Liberty.
Every Navy port city had lots of ''locker clubs''.
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The Navy did not allow sailors to have civilian clothes on Navy ships in those days. Therefore, the sailors kept their civilian clothes
in a downtown ''locker club'' to wear when they went on Liberty. Every Navy port city had lots of ''locker clubs''.
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Thanks for answering my question CBD.

I checked it out and you're absolutely correct (see below) -esp. the last paragraph.

Marine Corp Chevron, 4 Oct. 1946


http://historicperiodicals.princeton...--txt-IN-----#




While we're on the subject here are two photographs I found earlier this week on eBay.


below: Sailors arriving in Long Beach for law enforcement duties after the 1933 earthquake.


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-Two sailors on street patrol, W. Broadway, Long Beach


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Signage is all that remains of the closed Shanghai Red Cafe at 5th and Beacon in this 1969 photograph.


http://blogs.dailybreeze.com/history...ghaiclosed.jpg

Odessa Cox. Principal founder of Los Angeles Southwest College at Imperial Highway and Western Avenue. http://articles.latimes.com/2001/nov/06/local/me-855



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I wondered who that was. Thanks Tourmaline.




I just happened across two rare 1928 snapshots of 219 N. Hill Street.


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"Where I lived over tunnel end." (I believe you can see the top of the tunnel at lower right)




here's the second pic.

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-just for fun, here's an enlargement.


Is that a man with a hat over by the tunnel? -and what's that two story building behind the houses?


you can bid on them here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-LOS-ANG...UAAOSw5VFWMWzX
and here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-LOS-ANG...0AAOSw9mFWMXE~

* I just noticed the bidding has only 1 minute 23 seconds left.

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Some of the recent posts on (then) modern banks reminded me of the "Girder and Panel" construction toys of the '60's, some sets were of a similar modern style...can remember playing with them as a kid back in the day.



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I had a set of those when I was a kid! I forgot all about them! I used them and my Hot Wheels track to build a whole city in my living room, till the dog tramped through it like a hairy Godzilla.
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Good question ER.

The Navy did not allow sailors to have civilian clothes on Navy ships in those days. Therefore, the sailors kept their civilian clothes in a downtown ''locker club'' to wear when they went on Liberty.
Every Navy port city had lots of ''locker clubs''.
I have a letter my mother wrote as a girl to her traveling salesman dad about the earthquake. She would have been 12 when it hit. Interesting from a kid's perspective; she was living in what is now WeHo and said the rocking was great fun, but seeing all the buildings with their fronts laying in the street was scary.
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Hill Street Tunnel, Rood house, Criss Cross, Octavius Morgan

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"Where I lived over tunnel end." (I believe you can see the top of the tunnel at lower right)
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That's the same house in the image Flyingwedge just posted (second one over from the left margin):

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Detail from above image:




Also, that's the Criss Cross house on the left margin in the image above.

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Baist, 1921:

historic mapworks, plate 7

Does that really say Lancaster Pl? LOL:


historic mapworks, plate 7



PS

The Rood rental house, at No. 219, had an interesting owner's name on a 1916 permit:



ladbs


PPS

Huh. Octavius Morgan is also listed as the owner of 215 N Hill (the Criss Cross house) with Morgan & Walls listed as architects on the 1906 building permit. Maybe he owned the whole block:




ladbs

OK, No. 223 was also one of Octavius Morgan's (it's the other house pictured in e_r's Rood image), but not the other three on the block, further down the hill.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that Octavius Morgan was into real estate development. Anyone with a little extra cash was.


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I wondered who that was. Thanks Tourmaline.





you can bid on them here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-LOS-ANG...UAAOSw5VFWMWzX
and here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1928-LOS-ANG...0AAOSw9mFWMXE~

* I just noticed the bidding has only 1 minute 23 seconds left.

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Unless you're a collector maven, what's the point of buying these photos when u can grab them off the screen by pressing "print screen"....pasting to Paint and then filing them in your photo files. I'm sure there are times when you need the actual photo but its probably rare. I did buy a photo from ebay one time and that was a photo of my family taken in 1915. I had never seen that photo before and I still wonder how they got it.
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I have a letter my mother wrote as a girl to her traveling salesman dad about the earthquake. She would have been 12 when it hit. Interesting from a kid's perspective; she was living in what is now WeHo and said the rocking was great fun, but seeing all the buildings with their fronts laying in the street was scary.
My mother was 12 when the Long Beach earthquake hit the area in 1933. She said the concrete sidewalk looked like rolling ocean waves.
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Locker Clubs

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Good question ER.

The Navy did not allow sailors to have civilian clothes on Navy ships in those days. Therefore, the sailors kept their civilian clothes in a downtown ''locker club'' to wear when they went on Liberty.
Every Navy port city had lots of ''locker clubs''.
I figured that you would answer that question being an old Navy Man. I was home-ported in San Diego, we were tied up at North Island "the Admiral got a good place to park his Heavy Cruiser Flagship' and kept my clothes in one. First thing you did when you hit the beach Fri. was to head to the locker club and change, then the Grayhound Terminal for a trip to L.A. and home. Then Sun. night reverse that scenario.
Locker clubs also did tailoring, sell uniforms and clothes etc. depending on the size of the club that is.
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I figured that you would answer that question being an old Navy Man. I was home-ported in San Diego, we were tied up at North Island "the Admiral got a good place to park his Heavy Cruiser Flagship' and kept my clothes in one. First thing you did when you hit the beach Fri. was to head to the locker club and change, then the Grayhound Terminal for a trip to L.A. and home. Then Sun. night reverse that scenario.
Locker clubs also did tailoring, sell uniforms and clothes etc. depending on the size of the club that is.
I was stationed at North Island for two years '66-67....EPDOPAC...Admiral's staff duty. Lots of fun.

Just to the right in the photo is one of the Locker Clubs of Long Beach. There were about 6 or so of them. Most were in an area of Ocean Blvd., known as The Jungle. That's right...very sleazy area.
I never used a locker club because I always lived in Navy barracks or in my own basic allowance apartment. The Navy gave me $230 a month extra for food and an apartment.

Ocean Blvd., Long Beach ... I believe this has been seen before here.

the pike dot com

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I figured that you would answer that question being an old Navy Man. I was home-ported in San Diego, we were tied up at North Island "the Admiral got a good place to park his Heavy Cruiser Flagship' and kept my clothes in one. First thing you did when you hit the beach Fri. was to head to the locker club and change, then the Grayhound Terminal for a trip to L.A. and home. Then Sun. night reverse that scenario.
Locker clubs also did tailoring, sell uniforms and clothes etc. depending on the size of the club that is.
That was no longer the policy when I was a sailor in the mid '70's but do remember that the locker clubs still existed in downtown San Diego, IIRC a few were repurposed as pool halls. FWIW was also on a ship homeported at Coronado/North Island and my routine was to occasionally fly home to S.F. on PSA, could afford it if we had been out to sea for awhile.

(sorry, a bit off topic but does at least relate to southern California close to L.A....and the locker clubs/pool halls definitely had a noir vibe back in the day ;-)
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