noirish Los Angeles

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

This building is on the NW corner of Estrella and 23rd Street, just across from the north entrance to Chester Place.
The Chester Place Apartments is called the Chester Arms in the descriptions of the following undated LAPL photos.

The 23rd Street entrance is on the left:



00026768 at LAPL

A corner of the Chester Place Apts is seen in this view from an ancient post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1775


I suppose tenants got used the the U car grinding around the corner every 10 minutes....



That house is still there too--

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

In the first photo you originally posted, E_R, it says HAM underneath the mannequin.

You're right Martin, not sure how I missed that.

enlarged / Barney and Ham
detail




Barney becomes Jocko by the time he reaches New Jersey.


Playland detail

Ham was one of Noah's sons, right?
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update:

"The Curse of Ham is a misnomer for the curse upon Canaan, Ham's son, that was imposed by the biblical patriarch Noah.
The curse occurs in the Book of Genesis and concerns Noah's drunkenness and the accompanying shameful act perpetrated by his son Ham,
the father of Canaan (Gen. 9:20–27)." Curse of Ham

So what was the shameful act? Was Noah drunk or Ham? (if it was Ham that would explain the inebriated mannequin)

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

[...]
Ham was one of Noah's sons, right?
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update:

"The Curse of Ham is a misnomer for the curse upon Canaan, Ham's son, that was imposed by the biblical patriarch Noah.
The curse occurs in the Book of Genesis and concerns Noah's drunkenness and the accompanying shameful act perpetrated by his son Ham,
the father of Canaan (Gen. 9:20–27)." Curse of Ham

So what was the shameful act? Was Noah drunk or Ham? (if it was Ham that would explain the inebriated mannequin)

Noah got blotto and sprawled out in his tent, showing his junk I guess. Ham comes by, sees Noah's stuff, and blabs about it to his brothers. The non-Ham brothers go to N.'s tent without looking, and cover N. up. N. finds out about Ham's disrespect, and gets p.o.'d against Ham. Selah.

[ethereal_reality]

thanks odinthor. You certainly have a way with words. lol




This afternoon's 'mystery' photo.

At first I wasn't 100% sure it was Los Angeles until I noticed the streetlight.


old file / originally from jalopyjournal


The sign on the left appear to start with 'Wa'.


detail

Waveside (but there's no 'e')....Wayside (but there's no descender for the Y)

The second word appears to begin with a 'C'. (Club perhaps)




frustratingly, the sign on the right is too blurry to be of any help

detail

jalopyjournal

[ethereal_reality]

"Night view from one of the Park LaBrea towers, Los Angeles California, June 1954"



caliboy101 / flickr

I love this amateur snapshot.

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[ethereal_reality]

Mitsuba Training Company, Los Angeles.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/snapscot/14072283707/

"Fumio, Yukio and Jenel Nakaya pictured" [1938/1939]

As you can see in the reflection Toyo Printing Co. is across the street.




lapl

I believe all the buildings you see in the pic are gone.
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[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This afternoon's 'mystery' photo.

At first I wasn't 100% sure it was Los Angeles until I noticed the streetlight.


old file / originally from jalopyjournal

The sign on the left appear to start with 'Wa'.

Waveside (but there's no 'e')....Wayside (but there's no descender for the Y)

The second word appears to begin with a 'C'. (Club perhaps)

The image seems to originate from LAPL. Their description is "Exterior view of the Wayside Art Colony store in Long Beach on May 17, 1939. Cars are parked on the street in front."

There's also a second image.

"Exterior view of the Wayside Art Colony store in Long Beach on May 17, 1939. A sign indicates rugs and knitting are among the items for sale, and visitors are welcome."


LAPL

BTW - the original Jalopy Journal post is here (about three posts down). Jalopy Journal often have interesting photos with little/no description and no trace of a source - it can be frustrating at times!

ETA: Here's a better look at the sign (image enlarged). The site says it was at the "Southeast corner of 1st and Atlantic".


longbeachheritagemuseum.org

[tovangar2]

The site now has a Travel Lodge on it.

[ethereal_reality]

Excellent sleuthing Hoss. -and tovangar2.

The only 'Wayside' I could think of was the Wayside Inn in Studio City.

Originally Posted by tovangar2

The site now has a Travel Lodge on it.

Corner of 1st and Atlantic, right?


google_aerial /south is at top


There are some nice art deco apartments behind the travelodge (facing Lime Ave.)


gsv

They were built in 1925.
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[ethereal_reality]

When everyone was posting 'snow' photos a couple weeks ago I should have included this edition of the Herald Express from 1949. (I forgot I had it)


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The Black Dahlia still making front page headlines in 1949...two years after the fact.


bottom half

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I wish the article about the Black Dahlia was clearer. (can anyone make heads or tails out of it?)


additional pages.


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I just noticed the Mitchum/Marijuana article.

and a smaller blurb about a 'Mitchum' sofa for sale. (was Lila Leeds trying to raise money for her attorney bills?)

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[tovangar2]

The type was a tad small for me, so I zoomed in, but I'll just repost this one:


e_r

[Martin Pal]

Many noteworthy things in that paper besides the "snow"! Thanks for posting it, E_R!
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From a December 2016 article:

Snow once fell on the Los Angeles coastal plain with some regularity – on average, about once per decade. Since official records were first kept in 1877, the downtown Los Angeles weather station observed measurable snowfall three times, in 1882, 1932, and 1949. A Jan. 12, 1882, snowfall left the town’s “old timers … perfectly thunderstruck,” the Los Angeles Times reported, although the paper did acknowledge two previous snowfall events over the preceding twenty years. News reports recorded snowfall elsewhere in the Los Angeles Basin in 1913, 1921, 1922, 1926, 1944, 1957, 1962 – and then never again, for 55 years running.

Los Angeles is in the middle of a 55-year snow drought and with each passing year snowfall becomes increasingly less likely – although it’s still technically possible in 2016. (And indeed, snowfall at higher elevations and in inland valleys is more common; a 1989 system dropped several inches on the San Fernando Valley but missed the coastal plain, and a 2007 storm dusted the canyons above Malibu with powder and dropped hail-like graupel on L.A.'s Westside.)

Los Angeles today is roughly five degrees Fahrenheit warmer than it was a century ago. Minimum temperatures have been especially sensitive to the warming trend. We routinely see them breaking records more so than high temperatures. Our nights, in other words, are getting even warmer than our days. Five degrees of warming may have pushed a weather phenomenon from the margins of possibility into the realm of pure fantasy.
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I referenced this link before when I recently posted some winter photographs. What I noticed on reading the above again is that the first paragraph (above) doesn't reference the 1948 snowfall at all, even though there are photos on the article site dating some of them as 1948. (On another site I read someone speculates that the 1948 snow was probably in December, preceding the January 1949 storms, so it's been lumped together with that winter season.)

https://www.linktv.org/shows/lost-la...les-since-1962

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

From a December 2016 article:

[...] a 2007 storm dusted the canyons above Malibu with powder and dropped hail-like graupel on L.A.'s Westside. [...]
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I had to look this up. Word for today:

graupel

Precipitation that forms when supercooled droplets of water are collected and freeze on falling snowflakes, forming 2–5 mm (0.08–0.20 in) balls of rime. Also called soft hail or granular snow pellets. The term graupel comes from the German language.

I also had to look up:

rime

Frost formed on cold objects by the rapid freezing of water vapor in cloud or fog.

[3940dxer]

Can anyone offer any interesting old images of the 3rd & Vermont/New Hampshire area? I've seen aerials showing the old used airplane dealership where Ralph's is now located, and the handsome old apartment building at 4th and New Hampshire but would like to know of any others. This is for a group I often meet with in that area, that is interested in L.A. history (and for my own interest). Thanks!

[Flyingwedge]

This apartment building first appears in the 1904 LACD:



fold3.com


This photo may have been taken soon after The Ryer opened. In the rear at left is The Castle at 325 S. Bunker Hill Avenue:



SCWHR-P-005-N0345 at Seaver Center


This undated photo is misidentified as "700 W 1st Street," but it obviously shows The Ryer and its apartment house
neighbors, the Kenneth and Fleur de Lis. At far left is 347 S. Grand:



SCWHR-P-005-N0323 at Seaver Center


In 2009 e_r posted this c. 1960 Arnold Hylen photo of The Ryer, by then remodeled and renamed The Stevens Apartments:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Below: The Stevens Apartments in 1960.


Cal State

This is The Stevens Apartments on July 20, 1962:



408084 @ Huntington Digital Library


Here is the south side of The Stevens Apartments on December 30, 1962. At left is the rear of 318-22 S. Bunker Hill Avenue:



408107 @ Huntington Digital Library


The demo permit for 321 S. Grand is dated September 3, 1964.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by 3940dxer

Can anyone offer any interesting old images of the 3rd & Vermont/New Hampshire area? I've seen aerials showing the old used airplane dealership where Ralph's is now located, and the handsome old apartment building at 4th and New Hampshire but would like to know of any others. This is for a group I often meet with in that area, that is interested in L.A. history (and for my own interest). Thanks!

Well, Photobucket seems to be having issues displaying the images in my July 11, 2014, post on the Park Lane at 4th and
New Hampshire, but the links to the old pics are still OK.

[tovangar2]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I had to look this up. Word for today:

graupel

Precipitation that forms when supercooled droplets of water are collected and freeze on falling snowflakes, forming 2–5 mm (0.08–0.20 in) balls of rime. Also called soft hail or granular snow pellets. The term graupel comes from the German language.

That 2007 storm was a gift. We were all out playing in it. "Soft hail" is a good description. WLA was coated in white, but it didn't last long at all.


wxbrad

[HossC]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Well, Photobucket seems to be having issues displaying the images in my July 11, 2014, post on the Park Lane at 4th and
New Hampshire, but the links to the old pics are still OK.

It looks like my Photobucket images aren't showing either. I'll have to hold my Julius Shulman post and hope it starts working again soon!

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by HossC

It looks like my Photobucket images aren't showing either. I'll have to hold my Julius Shulman post and hope it starts working again soon!

As of just now, the images are displaying again.

[HossC]

Thanks for letting me know that PB photos are working again, FW.

I showed a 1951 Julius Shulman picture of Pereira & Luckman's staff drafting room about a month ago in post #41604. There's still no sign of an exterior shot, but "Job 1552: Pereira & Luckman, Pereira & Luckman Offices, 1953" gives us four more interior views.



Some beautifully framed designs.



On the desk, Master Project File, Volume 16, California Institute of Technology.



I wonder who left their glasses behind?



All from Getty Research Institute

The magazine on the desk in the last photo is the July 1953 issue of Fortune.


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