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Old Posted Mar 20, 2013, 6:05 PM
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Drove by the Tucson Marketplace and it looks like they started work on the McDonald's off of Park next to the Walmart. If you look on the layout plans, it already has McDonald's.
I went to Costco yesterday and a plat on the right side of the road that leads into the Costco parking lot is also being developed. Curious to see what that is.

EDIT - On the site plan, that pad is labeled "Shops H." This could be speculative construction, but that's still a good sign, IMO.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2013, 1:20 AM
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I went to Costco yesterday and a plat on the right side of the road that leads into the Costco parking lot is also being developed. Curious to see what that is.

EDIT - On the site plan, that pad is labeled "Shops H." This could be speculative construction, but that's still a good sign, IMO.
I agree.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2013, 4:38 AM
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I went to Costco yesterday and a plat on the right side of the road that leads into the Costco parking lot is also being developed. Curious to see what that is.

EDIT - On the site plan, that pad is labeled "Shops H." This could be speculative construction, but that's still a good sign, IMO.
Well, before the city's website decided to stop working properly (as it was 10 minutes before) I was going to provide links to show that the McDonald's is indeed under construction at the Bridges, that there have been applications for shops A-2 to be built directly east of the new McDonald's (which can be found in the site-plan on the link provided), that when I tried to find out about Shops H the map just kept providing links to the same address as found for the McDonald's parcel (even though it is a different parcel) and that there has been a proposal for some houses to be built at the Bridges on the part of it that is west of Park St. (the northern portion of that parcel), but that this was proposed in 2011, though some things were dated as recently as August of last year. Unfortunately now when I try to pull things up in the city's map right now, it says all the links are "null", which again, it didn't say 10 minutes ago - it let me get to the links I needed.
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2013, 6:17 AM
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I went to Costco yesterday and a plat on the right side of the road that leads into the Costco parking lot is also being developed. Curious to see what that is.

EDIT - On the site plan, that pad is labeled "Shops H." This could be speculative construction, but that's still a good sign, IMO.
you know what would do great here:
a 2 story dave and busters
somekind of entertainment mega attraction like a large laser tag arena
ikea (MAYBE)
a casino

sorry if those ideas sound super radical but i think given that its near ua, the freeway, AND in the middle of a home devolpment those 4 would make some bank. plus that we dont have those here (or at least not conveiently placed IN town)
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Old Posted Mar 21, 2013, 1:21 PM
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I wished they build more mid-rise high-end condo's and apts instead of those generic bland KBHome/Lennar homes at the Marketplace. Maybe another mid-sized hotel...to cater to clients and guests for the biotech center. That place could be a spot for the Grand Canyon U. branch. Leave those heartless corporate houses to Marana and Vail, Tucson has enough of those. Central Tucson should be a mixed of current historic houses, mid-rises, high-rises, skyscrapers, .... you know urban....walk around the corner to buy groceries, drink at a cafe or bar etc...then go back home...walking.

It's a horrible blend to have an ugly bland suburban KBHome in the middle of an urban center.

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Old Posted Mar 21, 2013, 3:02 PM
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I wished they build more mid-rise high-end condo's and apts instead of those generic bland KBHome/Lennar homes at the Marketplace. Maybe another mid-sized hotel...to cater to clients and guests for the biotech center. That place could be a spot for the Grand Canyon U. branch. Leave those heartless corporate houses to Marana and Vail, Tucson has enough of those. Central Tucson should be a mixed of current historic houses, mid-rises, high-rises, skyscrapers, .... you know urban....walk around the corner to buy groceries, drink at a cafe or bar etc...then go back home...walking.

It's a horrible blend to have an ugly bland suburban KBHome in the middle of an urban center.
There's already a hotel planned for the Bio-Tech Park part of the Bridges. It's supposed to be about a 10-story, up to 140 feet tall, building. Check out page 16 of this link: http://www.tucsonmarketplaceatthebri...earch_park.pdf
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2013, 4:13 PM
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There's already a hotel planned for the Bio-Tech Park part of the Bridges. It's supposed to be about a 10-story, up to 140 feet tall, building. Check out page 16 of this link: http://www.tucsonmarketplaceatthebri...earch_park.pdf
Yes, that's good to know that the Market will have a 10 story hotel. Thanks.

"KB Home/US Lennar Homes are proposing to build approximately 700-750 architecturally distinctive, single-family homes at The Bridges" Hopefully, they are as nice as those houses at the Mercado (downtown west side development).

I don't stick to one store when I buy groceries. I go to Costco, Walmart at the Bridges. Sometimes at Safeway (Broadway) or Fry's (Grant). I'm crossing my fingers that a Trader Joe's would move in the new Pima Courts Complex. That would be a good spot for a brand name grocery store. It should add more life in central downtown...with students and downtown residents walking or riding the streetcar to buy groceries. It's also close to the I-10 freeway, so people living close to I-10 can shop at Trader's downtown. The closest Trader Joe's that I know is Grant/Swan or Campebell/River.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2013, 9:09 PM
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Yes, that's good to know that the Market will have a 10 story hotel. Thanks.

"KB Home/US Lennar Homes are proposing to build approximately 700-750 architecturally distinctive, single-family homes at The Bridges" Hopefully, they are as nice as those houses at the Mercado (downtown west side development).

I don't stick to one store when I buy groceries. I go to Costco, Walmart at the Bridges. Sometimes at Safeway (Broadway) or Fry's (Grant). I'm crossing my fingers that a Trader Joe's would move in the new Pima Courts Complex. That would be a good spot for a brand name grocery store. It should add more life in central downtown...with students and downtown residents walking or riding the streetcar to buy groceries. It's also close to the I-10 freeway, so people living close to I-10 can shop at Trader's downtown. The closest Trader Joe's that I know is Grant/Swan or Campebell/River.
I hope the houses are distinct but I'm not getting my hopes up. Sometimes I wonder why housing developers don't bring their east coast designs to tucson. They'd sell like hot cakes! People are tired of stucco.
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2013, 11:03 PM
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I hope the houses are distinct but I'm not getting my hopes up. Sometimes I wonder why housing developers don't bring their east coast designs to tucson. They'd sell like hot cakes! People are tired of stucco.
Good point! How about something totally different. Neither the usual eastern nor western designs. Personally, I wouldn't care less about a front yard. Small backyard just for barbecue events. A thin 2 story house with a basement, large kitchen with no living or dining room and a 3 car garage would be perfect. I'm an extreme minimalist bachelor - translation, LAZY. The width of the house should be big enough for a very large screen television.

I wouldn't want any vegetation in or out the house...more than likely , they would die in a few days.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2013, 10:01 PM
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Good point! How about something totally different. Neither the usual eastern nor western designs. Personally, I wouldn't care less about a front yard. Small backyard just for barbecue events. A thin 2 story house with a basement, large kitchen with no living or dining room and a 3 car garage would be perfect. I'm an extreme minimalist bachelor - translation, LAZY. The width of the house should be big enough for a very large screen television.

I wouldn't want any vegetation in or out the house...more than likely , they would die in a few days.
Not to be rude but that sounds dreadful. Vegetation is crucial. Especially if you live in Tucson, a haven for all things outdoors! Turn off the flat screen and buy some plants! And a 3 car garage instead of living room? Living rooms are the heart of the home, not the garage. You are basically doing the exact opposite of feng shui and a home like that would not be a enjoyable place to live. Just my thoughts, to each their own though.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2013, 11:30 PM
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Not to be rude but that sounds dreadful. Vegetation is crucial. Especially if you live in Tucson, a haven for all things outdoors! Turn off the flat screen and buy some plants! And a 3 car garage instead of living room? Living rooms are the heart of the home, not the garage. You are basically doing the exact opposite of feng shui and a home like that would not be a enjoyable place to live. Just my thoughts, to each their own though.
I agree. I like my mesquite trees and backyard. A living room is mandatory in any home. I could never live in those houses in Japan that are very narrow. But remember that this guy is a bachelor. It doesn't sound like he has kids or a wife.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2013, 12:55 AM
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No, you guys aren't being rude.

Yes, I don't have kids nor a wife - THANK GOD!!!

I don't have the typical 9 to 5 job either. I'm out my place or Tucson for long periods at a time. This explains why I want to live in a high-rise (not mid-rise) - no plants to worry about plus I don't have to worry much about people breakin in my place when I'm away.

EDIT: My desire to have a basement in case I want to live in my probable future customized home at the Bridges stems from the fact that I want to start a new hobby - BYOB, Brew Your Own Beer. I need that constant temperature to store my kegs (oak, mesquite keg? ... don't worry RitaRancher, my mesquite lovin friend, your tree is safe!).

Also the fewer stuff you own, the less worry about things getting stolen when you are away for long periods.

I could live anywhere but Tucson is where mom and dad grew up and died plus it's cheap and more importantly, mother nature has been nice to the Old Pueblo. If you're away, you want to make sure your place is still there (no tornado, hurricane, earthquake etc...).

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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 4:42 AM
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That's aweful. It was a local theater that had potential to grow. Harkins is sort of local and I do prefer that theater over century, I do wish that Tower Theaters could stay open longer. They had a good run.


We are nearing the 200 page. What's the best/worst rendering you've seen? what building do you think will age the best?
EDIT: what's the biggest excitement/disappointment?

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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 6:05 AM
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We are nearing the 200 page. What's the best/worst rendering you've seen? what building do you think will age the best?
EDIT: what's the biggest excitement/disappointment?
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Biggest excitement: Streetcar

Biggest disappointment: Learning there are plans to expand the streetcar (rather than light or grade-separated rail) beyond the relatively dense and walkable university area.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 6:28 AM
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Biggest excitement: Streetcar

Biggest disappointment: Learning there are plans to expand the streetcar (rather than light or grade-separated rail) beyond the relatively dense and walkable university area.
That's a good point, I never really thought of it like that. I would say:

Biggest excitement: Increased density and building of mid-rised buildings in the central core of Tucson (downtown and U of A area).

Biggest disappointment: The continued push-back by neighborhoods, citizens, and the city's ineffectual handling - though they have gotten better - to anything relating to growth in this city.
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Old Posted Mar 26, 2013, 6:30 AM
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I'm also excited to know that I'm not alone in my excitement for improving Tucson and building a better city that includes things like increased density in the inner urban core, more walkable neighborhoods, increased mass-transit and better transit options to and from our neighbor to the north.
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That's aweful. It was a local theater that had potential to grow. Harkins is sort of local and I do prefer that theater over century, I do wish that Tower Theaters could stay open longer. They had a good run.


We are nearing the 200 page. What's the best/worst rendering you've seen? what building do you think will age the best?
EDIT: what's the biggest excitement/disappointment?
I recently moved by the theater...I really wanted to support it...but after a few movies I came to a quick realization that the sound system sucked. I started to make the drive to AMC Foothills for blockbusters and movies that I really wanted good sound quality and/or IMAX. For romantic-comedies, Towers was the best bet. On the bright-side Harkins taking it over translates to great quality sound and movie experience!!! Harkins is Phoenix-based...so its kinda local.
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We are nearing the 200 page. What's the best/worst rendering you've seen? what building do you think will age the best?
EDIT: what's the biggest excitement/disappointment?[/QUOTE]


Excitements: 1) Casino del Sol Hotel 2) Level 3) Unisource Tower

Disappointments: 1) Bourn-Thrifty Block Hotel 2) Convention Hotel 3) Cadence

I worked for the Tribe for over 7 years and the Casino Hotel was a project that my department got to work on. It was really exciting to build a tower in the Tucson region that was over 10 stories high. Very proud moment for the Tribe. Its beautiful. Level, for me, was a victory over the West University Neighborhood Association...the man...the evil NIMBY empire. Very hypocritical stances from them in my opinion. With Level moving forward, it made it possible for Park Ave and the Hub. Finally, Unisource Tower, with all its beauty (hahaha), displayed how a local business took notice of downtown and invested in it. A great gesture for downtown Tucson.

As for the disappointments...Bourn, well, self-explanatory. It's still vacant. The Sheraton Hotel was horribly planned out and out of scale. Like I posted several months ago, a more modest sized hotel with a modest amount of rooms divided by stages of hotel development would have been appropriate. It's amazing how the City and Rio Nuevo staff both screwed that up. The Cadence, ugh, drove by it yesterday evening and it looked stubby. I thought I would get over the drop of height/stories with the "at least something was built there" mentality...but I haven't. It just looks wrong...a missed opportunity for a truly wonderful "gateway" tower into downtown. AND the lame excuse of "we wanted to blend in and not overwhelm the adjacent neighborhoods" was a bunch of B.S. The more I rant on this the more I should put it as the #1 disappointment.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2013, 10:23 AM
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That's aweful. It was a local theater that had potential to grow. Harkins is sort of local and I do prefer that theater over century, I do wish that Tower Theaters could stay open longer. They had a good run.


We are nearing the 200 page. What's the best/worst rendering you've seen? what building do you think will age the best?
EDIT: what's the biggest excitement/disappointment?
biggest excitement, the new buildings going up. always nice to see these.

disappointment: all the failed and shot down proposals that i REALLY would like reconsdered now that the city/board are on good terms and on the road to improvement (maybe).
1.century tower - should be built just because
2.twin unisource - not even a twin if they didnt want. just a highrise
3.bourn-thrifty - with a trader joes ground floor
4.arena/hotel block - with the greenline incorporated into the plan
5.cadence height - can't fix that now can we... i hope it burns or something before people get into it
6.diamond rock plaza - hsl needs to push the idea
7.convention hotel - idk if it was part of #4 above
8.sheraton hotel - could be the same as #7/#4 idek. several renders
9.ronstadt "remodel" (whatever they did didnt cost millions of dollars...ot looks the same but with a wall now)
10. 44 broadway i liked the propsed condos and floor additions/expansion to lateral lot. i dont see people living there yet...

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