noirish Los Angeles - Page 798

Tourmaline · #**15941** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by belmont bob

So my attitude is, if someone has taken their time to research, or writes or makes a contribution, then I for one am not going to question the method.

Or the madness . . . ? "

The positive aspects of the posts far outweigh any negatives.

1935 Windsor Apartments. (If its been seen before, "Oh well!")

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...UXBA98ND1C.jpg

Contemporary

http://www.trbimg.com/img-51033c00/t...130125-001/600

fhammon · #**15942** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by belmont bob

I’ve read with great interest the several comments about the proper or improper ways we should be posting. There were times in my life when I was required to follow certain rules on formatting – school papers, work reports, etc. It seems to me this is not one of those places where I need to follow any formatting other than being true to giving credit to our sources, and give respect to all who come here.

I guess I look at this forum as a way each of us expresses our interest (read love) for the subjects covered here, but I find no real reason why I should tailor my posts to anyone’s preconceived ideas of what is right and what isn’t.

So my attitude is, if someone has taken their time to research, or writes or makes a contribution, then I for one am not going to question the method.

Even though I don’t contribute much, I check this site several times a day for new gems of information or opinions that satisfy my need to relive the past. If I’m not interested, that thumb wheel on my mouse will skip past very quickly.

My gripe isn't at all about the way people present their interests here.
I appreciate each and every one.
It's the redundancy that comes from "quoting" where multiple large photo presentations, no matter how interesting, get repeated often several times.
I only wish people might do a little editing when they quote an entry that we've just already seen. It doesn't take that much work and should in no way stifle anybody's interest or creativity.

tovangar2 · #**15943** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by westcork

Google has an image search feature; where you can paste a URL of an image, and it will show you anywhere that same image (not URL) has been posted before. It is very helpful to validate you are posting something original...

I hope I used the image search properly. I found it a bit confusing. The two images below are of a location that's received heavy coverage on the thread, but I do not recall these particular views:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...0&l=520b0ec9f8

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...8&l=3a7ca612ab

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Originally Posted by westcork

I like long posts, especially ones that took somebody a considerable amount of time to research and prepare.

Yes, in total agreement :-)

Tourmaline · #**15944** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 7:17 PM**

1950 - Wilshire and Vermont (Strange writing in crosswalk: Don't Be A _ _ _ _ _ _____ ?)

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...68662381_n.jpg

Risk scorn and post other photos of this intersection? ? ?

Excellent post containing a series of images covering the same-nearby location: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=13109

PHX31 · #**15945** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 7:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tourmaline

1950 - Wilshire and Vermont (Strange writing in crosswalk: Don't Be A _ _ _ _ _ _____ ?)

Huh, weird... looks to me like "DON'T BE A DROOPERT" whatever that means. Maybe some old-timey slang (although it's unlikely it does say "droopert")

EDIT: It really does say droopert, check it out!:

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dr...query/droopert

How about the other crosswalk?: _____ WITH ___NTERY?

tovangar2 · #**15946** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 8:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by PHX31

Huh, weird... looks to me like "DON'T BE A DROOPERT" whatever that means. Maybe some old-timey slang (although it's unlikely it does say "droopert")

EDIT: It really does say droopert, check it out!:

http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dr...query/droopert

How about the other crosswalk?: _____ WITH ___NTERY?

http://yayponies.tumblr.com/post/510...i-lived-in-los

-and-

http://americanradiohistory.com/Arch...1960-06-27.pdf

I could not find a pic of the "Droopert" cartoon character or references to any other cities

Tourmaline · #**15947** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 8:32 PM**

"I don't know exactly what has changed, but I have a hard time following the flow on Noirish Los Angeles lately."

Posts regarding droopertism aren't going to help.

"Specializing in nervous and elderly people." Includes elderly who are nervous?

1949 safety film shot in LA, staring Jack Carson. http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dr...ety-commercial

Could that be Bullock's Wilshire?

http://images.britishpathe.com/?id=6...m=3&size=still

Unknown LA location

http://images.britishpathe.com/?id=6...=13&size=still

Uh oh. Multiple image alert.
"Droopert", 9 November 1956. Doodles Weaver (gets hit by car while jaywalking); Vampira; couple chosen by Traffic Safety to be known as Mr. and Mrs. Droopert"

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...XT=&DMROTATE=0

Tourmaline · #**15948** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Bubble buster: the real Clifford:

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/20...nd_has_a_h.php

Cliff in '47

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...3_569887_n.jpg

Godzilla · #**15949** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 9:24 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

1938 (Pre-MayCo.)

1939

1950 Simons. Wilshire and Fairfax looking north of Fairfax. May Co would be to right

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...48255123_n.jpg

austlar1 · #**15950** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 9:31 PM**

Droopert posts work for me. Three or four repeats of the same Droopert post could get a bit tiresome. My index finger might get a callous twirling the wheel on my mouse. Similarly, two or three pages of Droopert posts could cause one to lose interest rapidly. Look, folks, I did not want to start a flame about posting. I was just expressing an opinion. The VERY BEST thing about Noirish Los Angeles is the fact that it is a civil and cordial place, easily the most civil thread on the whole of SSP. Forumers come here to be entertained and enlightened rather than to duke it out over petty issues.

Godzilla · #**15951** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by austlar1

Droopert posts work for me.

4493 Beverly Blvd. More than just changing hairstyle?

Building evidently went through two remodels in the 1930s. Since this is LA., semi-permanent home to the Richfield Tower, not surprised the appealing second version failed to stick.

No1

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...QU2AAYDXPH.jpg

No 2

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...CFIUI8KXA9.jpg

Contemporary

http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/phot..._12421867.jpeg

Godzilla · #**15952** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chuckaluck

http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-con...0/DSC_0232.jpg

5536 Melrose Blvd.

What happened to the barrel roof tiles?

Before Lucy's? Sometime between '23 and '33. Hint: Compare Cartouches

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...SYH5E9T945.jpg

fhammon · #**15953** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:33 PM**

[QUOTE=Tourmaline;6224407]

I don't recognize Vampira (sexy overbite) but Droopert looks a lot like Al Radka

http://www.fresnostate.edu/artshum/alumni/radka.html

Godzilla · #**15954** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:39 PM**

1885 Los Angeles' First Chinatown.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...BJP9T1EGAI.jpg

Tourmaline · #**15955** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 10:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by fhammon

I don't recognize Vampira (sexy overbite) but Droopert looks a lot like Al Radka

http://www.fresnostate.edu/artshum/alumni/radka.html

The text identified Mr. Droopert as Doodles Weaver. Both Radka and DW were funnymen, but look closer and I think you will agree that this time SC's labeler got it right.

Umm. Sorry austlar1.

Doodles - who had a TV show in '51

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...eaverframe.jpg

Droopert '51. (Looks to be outside of NBC Studios)

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...ert&DMROTATE=0

http://content.cdlib.org/ark:/13030/...5q5/hi-res.jpg

fhammon · #**15956** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Godzilla

1885 Los Angeles' First Chinatown.

That's a beautiful colorization, Godzilla. Good find!
I'm fascinated by old Chinatown to begin with and this makes it look very real.
Thanks!

Godzilla · #**15957** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by fhammon

I'm fascinated by old Chinatown to begin with and this makes it look very real.

Only wish there were more like it.

Don't believe these have been posted here. Not as pretty, but they may spur some additional information.

1889

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...A5T2HRCDLE.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...C5JIFP36F5.jpg

Circa 1875

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...Q95HIJPFTM.jpg

westcork · #**15958** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by JScott

e_r: Turns out the old color-tinted slide above (corrected for perspective here) is a companion piece to a photo you posted to the thread years ago.

The building in the background in the last phases of construction that I previously incorrectly identified as the WB Theatre is actually 315 W. 9th St., which was built in 1926. So, that pretty much conclusively dates the tinted slide (and the b/w photo) to the same year.

In fact, looking at the details of the two pictures, I think they might have been taken the same day, only a few minutes apart. I tried to find the untinted version on the USC site, but no luck.

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Watching "Farewell, My Lovely" (1975) right now, for the first time! I've heard the widescreen release is rather rare, so this is a real treat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpIftdXefsE

I combined these two pictures and believe they were both taken on the same day. The telephone poles are casting shadows that look to be the same length, but slightly different angles, as if the photos were taken 20-30 minutes apart. Some of the cars on the left side of the road are in the same position in both pictures. But it looks like the traffic control officer left for the lunch... I am guessing this was taken in the winter

Blaster · #**15959** Posted **Aug 7, 2013, 11:57 PM**

[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;5265255]I thought we'd covered the Nikabob and El Cholo at some point, but danged if I can find them on a search of the thread...

LAPL

I was reading recently about pulp writers from the 1930's. In an article on Norbert Davis who wrote for Black Mask, Dime Detective and others, I came across this...

Norbert Davis lived in the Los Angeles area during most of his writing career. He associated with other pulp writers and was a member of the Fictioneers, a writers' club founded by W. T. Ballard and Cleve Adams. The group of about twenty-five members met once a month in the Nikabob Cafe at 875 South Western Avenue in Los Angeles. The meetings were informal and their real purpose, Ballard recalls, "was to get comfortably drunk and then en masse attend one of the local burlesque theatres."

CityBoyDoug · #**15960** Posted **Aug 8, 2013, 12:59 AM**

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