PHILADELPHIA | Lowrise/General Developments Thread

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

You know what? I'm fine with this. The design isn't horrendous and the development itself is relatively dense. I'll take it over the highrise originally intended for the lot.

Its a handsome building, the brick is nice. It will add to that area nicely.

A small retail component would be nice. I know a Giant is coming down the block, but a key to creating dynamic development is some sort small commercial component.

[Urbanthusiat]

Originally Posted by PHLtoNYC

Its a handsome building, the brick is nice. It will add to that area nicely.

A small retail component would be nice. I know a Giant is coming down the block, but a key to creating dynamic development is some sort small commercial component.

There is so little foot traffic at this location, I don't think retail would be viable unfortunately.

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

There is so little foot traffic at this location, I don't think retail would be viable unfortunately.

I definitely agree - I was by here just yesterday and there's definitely an end of the earth feel to this location. Unless it's some sort of destination retail/commercial, it's going to have a hard time finding enough organic foot traffic to make it work.

[blart]

Originally Posted by mcgrath618

I always thought this was a bizarro place in the city. I've never had any reason to go to the area sandwiched by 95 and the bridge, and I don't think I ever will.

I used to live about a block from this corner for several years in the 90s. I actually found it to be a convenient location and quieter than the rest of Old City.

[hammersklavier]

*checks notes*

Old City reaches ... 23rd Street now?

[eixample]

Have there been any developments in Philly that have used (or proposed to use) mass timber or cross-laminated wood panels? I was just reading this New York Times article about the topic that touts the lower green house gas emissions and labor costs, albeit materials appear to be higher cost at this point. This isn't a brand new technology, but it certainly appears to be catching on with developments projected to double annually.

[El Duderino]

Originally Posted by hammersklavier

*checks notes*

Old City reaches ... 23rd Street now?

Did you not get the memo?

I believe that this is in reference to the project at 2nd and Wood, which is indeed in that weird little nook of north Old City that a couple folks mentioned. The entire area north of the BFB, south of Callowhill and east of 6th Street is like it's own little village and almost entirely residential save for some of the more industrial-leaning businesses still in the area. It definitely feels like a step back in time a little bit in some spots and can be wildly quiet and relaxing compared to the rest of Old City.

[McBane]

REALLY digging the proposed projects in NoLibs and Fishtown. It's as if developers in these neighborhoods don't feel constrained by the "red brick conservatism" and the lame attempts to conform to the existing surroundings that make most other projects sooo boring (Edgewater II is one such example). It's refreshing and exciting to see what architects and developers are willing to do when they ditch the red brick and that whole mentality. Wish we can see more bold designs in other neighborhoods, too.

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by McBane

REALLY digging the proposed projects in NoLibs and Fishtown. It's as if developers in these neighborhoods don't feel constrained by the "red brick conservatism" and the lame attempts to conform to the existing surroundings that make most other projects sooo boring (Edgewater II is one such example). It's refreshing and exciting to see what architects and developers are willing to do when they ditch the red brick and that whole mentality. Wish we can see more bold designs in other neighborhoods, too.

This is the main reason why I bought in NoLibs in 2003. It was already evident then that the neighborhood had different ideas about what contextualism even meant. (Most) residents already had an appreciation for the cacophony of land uses and styles in the neighborhood and thought of modern/contemporary development as an extension of that cacophony.

I'm just glad it's taken as long as it did, because the current wave is the best and highest quality so far...and had Northern Liberties been completely built out in the interim, we wouldn't have the opportunity to do what we're doing now.

[PHLtoNYC]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

There is so little foot traffic at this location, I don't think retail would be viable unfortunately.

True, I guess when I said retail, I meant a coffee shop or something similar.
I guess my Manhattan mindset needs to adjust to Center City, which isn't buzzing in every section.

[PhilliesPhan]

I found myself in Allegheny West and West Philly this morning, so I decided to update y'all on some developments occurring in those respective places!

Site work has started on a mixed-use building scheduled to rise at 34th and Indiana:





In case you forgot about this building: http://www.rising.realestate/176-uni...e-and-indiana/

Meanwhile at Ridge and Allegheny, final touches are being added to a new mixed-use building:





Meanwhile in West Philly, five new buildings (three are framed, and two others are foundation-only at this point) are rising at the northwest corner of 57th and Market:



Further down the 5700 block of Market, another building is nearing completion:



The northwest corner of 59th and Market has stepped up greatly in terms of density!





Finally, I noticed something rising behind the completed building, at the corner of Salford and Filbert Streets. Does anyone know what it may be?

[mcgrath618]

That lowrise just south of Broad and Washington has started.

[PurpleWhiteOut]

The Wharton Academic Research Building is nearing completion, and is some decent Penn in-fill at 37th and Spruce. A lot of their buildings have their backs turned toward Spruce, but this feels more integrated

[Aaamazarite]

Originally Posted by PhilliesPhan

Finally, I noticed something rising behind the completed building, at the corner of Salford and Filbert Streets. Does anyone know what it may be?

That's Phase Two of New Market West. Horizon House is moving into Phase One from 30th st, Phase Two is 40 units of affordable housing.

[summersm343]

Second round of October CDR Submissions

741 Spring Garden Street
-Located in Poplar neighborhood of North Philadelphia
-7-story residential building with 146 units and ground floor commercial/retail
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

209 Delmar Street
-Located in Roxborough neighborhood of Northwest Philadelphia
-23 four-story townhomes
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

2616 S. 18th Street
-Located in Melrose neighborhood of South Philadelphia
-22 three-story townhomes
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

5001 Umbria Street
-Located in Roxborough neighborhood of Northwest Philadelphia
-Two buildings, one 5-floors and one 6-floors, with 178 total residential units, and ground floor commercial/retail
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

2400 E. Huntingdon Street
-We just saw renderings of this one
-Located in Olde Richmond neighborhood of North Philadelphia
-7-story residential building with 150 units and ground floor retail/industrial space
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...n-20201022.pdf

[Larry King]

The South 18th project is pretty bad. It's zoned cmx2, should be apartments.

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Second round of October CDR Submissions


209 Delmar Street
-Located in Roxborough neighborhood of Northwest Philadelphia
-23 four-story townhomes
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

If Developers are going to be allowed to put 23 townhouses on what used to the lot for exactly 1 single family home, they should be these best looking, highest quality homes the neighbohood has seen.

This is not that. If I lived nearby, I'd be fighting this tooth and nail.

[summersm343]

146 Units + Retail to Replace Parking Lot at 8th & Spring Garden

Rendering 1:


Rendering 2:


Current site:

Spring Garden St. on the east side of Broad St. has experienced a ton of development action over the last 5-10 years. New commercial spaces, offices, breweries, residential buildings and restaurants have sprung up along the corridor. The area between 9th St. and 11th St. and the stretch between 5th St. and the river have been the two epicenters of development along Spring Garden.

It looks like the gap between these two hotspots will begin to be bridged by a recent proposal by Arts and Crafts Holdings, the prominent developer in this neck of the woods. Arts and Crafts Holdings is proposing the by-right construction of a 99,114 square foot building on the more than 21,000 square foot CMX-3 parcel at 741 Spring Garden St., which is currently a surface parking lot. The 7-story building will include 146 residential units, 29 parking spots, 72 bike spaces, a roof deck, and a green roof. A 3,361 square foot commercial space will be located on the corner of 8th and Spring Garden. A green space and small dog park will be located along Perth St.

Read more here:
http://www.rising.realestate/146-uni...spring-garden/

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

If Developers are going to be allowed to put 23 townhouses on what used to the lot for exactly 1 single family home, they should be these best looking, highest quality homes the neighbohood has seen.

This is not that. If I lived nearby, I'd be fighting this tooth and nail.

What does it matter what was there before? The lot is zoned this way for a reason. There should be more than one single family home there.

I'm sure neighbors will fight tooth and nail, regardless of what it looks like and for what it's worth, these look fine.

[PhiLaw]

Originally Posted by summersm343

Second round of October CDR Submissions

741 Spring Garden Street
-Located in Poplar neighborhood of North Philadelphia
-7-story residential building with 146 units and ground floor commercial/retail
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

209 Delmar Street
-Located in Roxborough neighborhood of Northwest Philadelphia
-23 four-story townhomes
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

2616 S. 18th Street
-Located in Melrose neighborhood of South Philadelphia
-22 three-story townhomes
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

5001 Umbria Street
-Located in Roxborough neighborhood of Northwest Philadelphia
-Two buildings, one 5-floors and one 6-floors, with 178 total residential units, and ground floor commercial/retail
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...t-20201022.pdf

2400 E. Huntingdon Street
-We just saw renderings of this one
-Located in Olde Richmond neighborhood of North Philadelphia
-7-story residential building with 150 units and ground floor retail/industrial space
PDF:
https://www.phila.gov/media/20201009...n-20201022.pdf

Why is the S. 18th St. project so bad? I'm from/live in Packer Park - not much demand for apartments down here. You live here when you want a bit more space to raise a family. Developers understand this - that's why 14 townhouses at about $950k are going up at 20th and Hartranft, and 22 more just behind the catholic church on 19th and Hartranft. New housing demand around here comes from Italians that have done well (in the building/utility trades, primarily owners), Doctors, and other high-income people whose jobs require them to live in the City.