The Official Moncton, NB Project Thread

[mylesmalley]

Originally Posted by Budyser

Can someone tell me if Codiac Transpo has ever cleared a profit? I can't imagine it ever has.

Again, I've lived in Moncton all of my life and I've never seen more than a hand full of people in any one of these buses, at any given time, day or night.

Outside of big cities, it's very common for transit services to get subsidies to operate.

Moncton's car-culture doesn't help. Nor does the huge footprint of the city. We're at a point where we probably need to greatly increase the operating subsidy to expand service to actually offer good coverage. As it stands now, a lot of the routes are basically just shuttles to the malls.

Edit - OC Transpo in Ottawa gets half of it's funding from the city. Even the TTC in Toronto is subsidized to the tune of 1/3 of their operating budget.

I don't imagine there are many services at all that operate completely independently, i.e. self-funding their own operating costs as well as capital expenditures. Any way you cut it, transit is an expensive proposition and needs to be a loss-leader if you have any expectation for people to pay to ride it.

The flip side is that transit saves a lot of money in infrastructure that doesn't need building like wider roads, improved congestion etc.

Edit Edit - Even New York City has a $1.03 per fare subsidy on their network and they operate one of the most heavily used systems in the world. And that's operating, not including capital.

[pierremoncton]

Magic Mountain is expanding

Found on Radio-Canada:



http://ici.radio-canada.ca/regions/a...-moncton.shtml

Fairly good translation from Google:

Rides again soon publicly available in the Moncton area

The aquatic theme park Magic Mountain in Moncton, New Brunswick, is expanding with, among others, rides that would appeal to regulars of the old Crystal Palace in Dieppe.

The construction of new facilities is underway. Work is carried out in three phases. The first will be completed this summer, in mid-July and the last in 2017, says the company.

As and when the work progresses, visitors will stand next to Magic Mountain several rides, a ticket, restaurants. It also provides for the construction of a laser tag, miniature golf, an arcade and multipurpose rooms.

Mark Jelly, company president, said that this expansion will lead to the creation of 30 full-time jobs.

The closure of the Crystal Palace Amusement Park, last year, had saddened many people who loved its rides. A camping equipment trade, sports and outdoor is being moved into the building.

[mctnguy]

Here's an English article regarding the rides at Magic Mountain:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-br...ound-1.3085542

[pierremoncton]

Vacancy Rate Update

Spring 2015 CMHC Housing Market Outlook for Saint John, Moncton & Fredericton: http://www.cmhc-schl.gc.ca/odpub/esu...=1432652272996

October Vacancy Rate (Moncton)

2012: 6.7%
2013: 9.1%
2014: 8.7%
2015: 9.5% (forecast)
2016: 9.2% (forecast)

Nationally, Moncton's vacancy rate (recent & forecast) is only surpassed by Saint John's.

In 2014, Ottawa (6.5%) and Charlottetown (5.9%) were the highest after NB, and just about everything west of Atlantic Canada is below 4%. The national CMA average was 2.8%.

4-5% is a balanced market, so we can expect to wait until 2020 before the current supply is absorbed and construction starts again.

[MonctonRad]

This is the design selected for the new memorial to the three slain RCMP members. It will be placed on the riverfront.


CBC

[Scarface]

Drove up Elmwood Drive, and seen some brush removal, and signs up just passed the highway across from Caledonia Industrial Park. From the images it looks like they are planing to build a grocery store Gas bar, and maybe more.

[MonctonRad]

Welcome to the forums.

You'll find that most discussions about Moncton developments are neighbourhood specific, and will be found in different neighbourhood threads. This particular topic (Elmwood Centre) has been discussed in the [Moncton] East thread. Yes, this development will include a grocery store (small format Superstore, the relocated Elmwood Home Hardware and a bunch of highway services (service station, convenience store, fast food etc).

The general Moncton thread is now used mostly for topics of a more general nature, or that do not fit well in a specific neighbourhood thread.

Please feel free to contribute anytime.

[MonctonRad]

Screen capture from the Fox Sports channel as they try to tell their American audience about Moncton, New Brunswick just before this afternoon's televised games........

[trev71]

Moncton Friends. I always seem to stay at the Future inn in Moncton or the casino. But when did the Future inn change to a Sheraton. Was looking tonight to book it and its gone

[NBNYer]

Originally Posted by trev71

Moncton Friends. I always seem to stay at the Future inn in Moncton or the casino. But when did the Future inn change to a Sheraton. Was looking tonight to book it and its gone

The new sign went up on the building last week I think.

[Taeolas]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Screen capture from the Fox Sports channel as they try to tell their American audience about Moncton, New Brunswick just before this afternoon's televised games........

LOL. I think the entire city could fit in 2 or 3 of the towers on the left there.

That's Vancouver right? They didn't even get the coast right, let alone anything else.

[David_99]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

What's that? An artist's conception of what Moncton would look like if all of our proposed building projects actually happened!?

[trev71]

Originally Posted by NBNYer

The new sign went up on the building last week I think.

Interesting thanks. I noticed the deals were not as good then I looked and saw on hotels.ca it was Sheraton. That explains it some what

[trev71]

Originally Posted by David_99

What's that? An artist's conception of what Moncton would look like if all of our proposed building projects actually happened!?

LOL. I haven't been to Moncton since April wow did it ever change

[kwajo]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Outside of big cities, it's very common for transit services to get subsidies to operate.

Moncton's car-culture doesn't help. Nor does the huge footprint of the city. We're at a point where we probably need to greatly increase the operating subsidy to expand service to actually offer good coverage. As it stands now, a lot of the routes are basically just shuttles to the malls.

Edit - OC Transpo in Ottawa gets half of it's funding from the city. Even the TTC in Toronto is subsidized to the tune of 1/3 of their operating budget.

I don't imagine there are many services at all that operate completely independently, i.e. self-funding their own operating costs as well as capital expenditures. Any way you cut it, transit is an expensive proposition and needs to be a loss-leader if you have any expectation for people to pay to ride it.

The flip side is that transit saves a lot of money in infrastructure that doesn't need building like wider roads, improved congestion etc.

Edit Edit - Even New York City has a $1.03 per fare subsidy on their network and they operate one of the most heavily used systems in the world. And that's operating, not including capital.

I never understood why people think transit systems are supposed to either make a profit or pay for themselves, yet are usually 100% opposed to tolls on roads. It's the same thing. Transit = Infrastructure. We pay taxes for infrastructure and services and transit is an essential piece of that. As you mentioned, even a city like New York subsidizes transit, because if they didn't the city simply wouldn't function, same as if you started charging actual unsubsidized usage rates for sewage or drinking water. Spending a tax dollar on transit almost always saves more than a dollar in infrastructure costs elsewhere (everything from reduced traffic management to fewer road repairs to policing costs to stormwater management), yet much of the NB public thinks it is a luxury that should be amongst the first budget cuts when times are tough.

[josh_cat_eyes]

I like funding transit. Actually if moncton had about 400,000 to 500,000 people, I would suggest a subway or something, from the airport (gave the stop be at the bottom of the stairs you go down to get to the parking lot, and have it follow the tracks through the industrial park, and stop at Dieppe city hall, champlain place, and then loop up across the traffic circle to the former rail right of way connecting to the existing right of way, and then have continued stops until you reach highfield. Or the other option was to use the old old right of way in front of assumption place. Either way I think a connection from the airport straight into downtown is a good idea. Maybe more along the lines of Ottawa's bus roads.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

I like funding transit. Actually if moncton had about 400,000 to 500,000 people, I would suggest a subway or something, from the airport (gave the stop be at the bottom of the stairs you go down to get to the parking lot, and have it follow the tracks through the industrial park, and stop at Dieppe city hall, champlain place, and then loop up across the traffic circle to the former rail right of way connecting to the existing right of way, and then have continued stops until you reach highfield. Or the other option was to use the old old right of way in front of assumption place. Either way I think a connection from the airport straight into downtown is a good idea. Maybe more along the lines of Ottawa's bus roads.

This would be a great idea if 2 things 1. the city had 4-5 times+ the amount of citizens it has now, and 2. The convention center, and possibly new hotels developers are talking about for downtown... But otherwise would be a serious waste of money.

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by Scarface

This would be a great idea if 2 things 1. the city had 4-5 times+ the amount of citizens it has now, and 2. The convention center, and possibly new hotels developers are talking about for downtown... But otherwise would be a serious waste of money.

Yeah that's why I suggested it could only be done if moncton had around half a million people.

[habs33]

Anyone kow what the Province will be announcing at 10am this morning?

Here's a tweet from a CBC reporter saying that it's a "recreational infrastructure funding announcement"
https://twitter.com/mchardie/status/611504571144400898

[Mattyyy]

Originally Posted by habs33

Anyone kow what the Province will be announcing at 10am this morning?

Here's a tweet from a CBC reporter saying that it's a "recreational infrastructure funding announcement"
https://twitter.com/mchardie/status/611504571144400898

That's a great question - but I can certainly tell you what it isn't!