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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 9:40 PM
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Wow, I love it! building to building, podium up to the roofline and the tower set back on top, I am a fan.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 9:41 PM
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Just found out the masonry podium is pretty much a go, the cladding on the tower portion has not been nailed down.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 9:43 PM
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The black masonry will be beautiful if executed well!
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 9:45 PM
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Agreed.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 9:50 PM
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I think the double doors are located in the back at John Hirsch. Only judging by the building on the left having the red fire escape stairs.

I like the design, I think building materials will be key.
you're right...that's a back view...phew.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 9:52 PM
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ha ha...black brick....couldn't help themselves..

its cool the retail unit opens to the back

ATLRG are the designers...good architects.

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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 10:24 PM
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It will be interesting to see how they handle constructing beside two shifting, 120 year old wood frame buildings. The one to the west is moving like crazy...they will likely be responsible for building a new roof on the two neighbouring buildings to handle additional snow loading....

I really hope something happens there. Might inspire the development of the massive lot across the street.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 10:27 PM
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Yes, another lot that irks me.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 10:27 PM
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It will be interesting to see how they handle constructing beside two shifting, 120 year old wood frame buildings. The one to the west is moving like crazy...they will likely be responsible for building a new roof on the two neighbouring buildings to handle additional snow loading....

I really hope something happens there. Might inspire the development of the massive lot across the street.
Moving, and encroaching over top of the vacant lot to the east!

It will be tricky to deal with that little complication.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 10:37 PM
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ha ha...black brick....couldn't help themselves..

its cool the retail unit opens to the back

ATLRG are the designers...good architects.
I think this is the best feature!

Overall its pretty nice honestly. Doesn't seem to overwhelm the rest of the neighborhood around it.

I wonder if this is a situation where the building wouldn't be profitable if it had floors cut off. I'd hate to be left with yet another failed proposal and a surface parking lot just because its too tall.
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 11:35 PM
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This one.

https://www.vernereimer.com/our-work...-apartments/#1





Theres a large number of proposals on his site. hard to know what's active and what is left over. Some very intriguing and in line with recent rumours on here.
Yes... I believe this what was approved. The property owner to the south was upset after investing into their property only to have the set backs ignored by the proponent. It was quiet heavy handed and I really felt sorry for the guy. Some arms length agency pushed their weight around to get this approved. Nice project but not really fair to the adjacent owner...
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Old Posted Mar 5, 2021, 11:39 PM
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Such as this one. Lux Condos, design complete.
https://www.vernereimer.com/our-work...se/lux-condos/

Is this the Duncan proposal, IIRC on hold.
https://www.vernereimer.com/our-work...ment-proposal/

Any legs on this one?
https://www.vernereimer.com/our-work.../cloud-condos/
No to #2 and #3 . I’m unsure where #1 was proposed.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 12:02 AM
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I like it too... it’s only a 12,000ft site and removes a parking lot.

The parking lot across the way finally changed hands after at least 70 years! Not sure if united equities got it or shelter Corp. Over $7,000,000.

Why would the development be responsible for added snow load to the adjacent properties? Would it be determined by computer modeling? Not something I’m familiar with.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 12:20 AM
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Thanks for the info.

Interesting about the snow. The new building could cause drifting I suppose. But the setback on the +50' part would seem to deal with that.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 1:57 AM
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That diagram shows the height of the Grain Exchange building as 150'. So this would be on par with that.

What a fantastic project.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 4:38 PM
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Beautiful work. It really fits in with the community, can’t for the life of me see why this would be denied.
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Wow, it’s like they thought of almost everything aesthetically
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 5:49 PM
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Beautiful work. It really fits in with the community, can’t for the life of me see why this would be denied.
It was proposed in an area with a pre existing height limit.

The developer knew this going in.

It's automatically going to be denied and then they can appeal.
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Old Posted Mar 6, 2021, 7:32 PM
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Cool story.

Let's get back to reality.

The truth of the matter is that this development is designed and funded on a certain amount of commercial and residential units. Three separate buildings that are becoming interconnected, with shared services, stairwells, elevators etc. FYI, the elevator for this development was to be located in the Scott Block (and is still located in the new building).

When the Scott Block was damaged beyond repair, the developer needed to act quickly in order to preserve funding and the original intent of the development, i.e. three interconnected buildings.

The consultants worked hard to get a replacement building going as quickly as possible. However, no corners were cut. The permits were approved, and the design reviewed approved by Heritage.

The replacement building is constructed with a superior structure and foundation.

You can mourn the loss of the front façade and the blank north masonry wall, but that's it. There is no tin foil hat plot at work here.
I don’t think people should be browbeaten because they raise legitimate concerns about the loss of an important heritage structure. The fact is the whole accident was basically swept under the rug at the time and the city and developer did basically nothing to at least save the facade. And as you have disclosed in the past on here, you had or a personal connection to the project/developers so one needs to consider the source.
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