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Originally Posted by noodlenoodle
Aaaaaaand we're back to you wanting to improve things in a way that only promotes your agenda & pays no heed to the vast majority of Edmontonians for whom your idea of "city living" is anathemic & always will be.
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This is kind of a self-fulfilling, defeatist, prophecy.
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In my opinion, Edmonton needs to accept the fact it's not going to ever have a CBD like Calgary or a highly-residential downtown core like Vancouver
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I think a high-density residential downtown is definitely doable for Edmonton, actually. And we can still have our suburbs whilst doing so!
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& try and figure out how to best improve the sustainability of the built forms, values, lifestyles & priorities shared by the people to whom our suburbs are appealing.
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Agreed, but downtown needs to be a piece of this as a space for all Edmontonians to converge.
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Artificially pumping up Downtown through ridiculously disproportionate spending on stimulus inside the neighborhood hasn't really done anything to reverse the hollowing out trends & Downtown Edmontonians continue to be a smaller & smaller proportion of Edmontonians writ large.
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I don't think it's realistic at this stage to expect downtown Edmonton to overnight turn into a neighbourhood of 80,000 people but it is booming. Far more alive than a decade ago, that's for sure!
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I know I don't share the values, priorities & lifestyles of the urban-uber-alles crowd on the forums, nor the silent suburbanites who form the backbone of our city. But I'm cognizant they're MY values, priorities & lifestyle with the onus on me alone to live my life according to the values I hold. I don't begrudge anyone who does the same, even if that means one or both of us can't get our whole way & I certainly would never hold up my personal priorities as an example or portray them as the only real or logical choice.
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This is where I appreciate what you're saying, but I think in this thread you've kind of gone to the extreme at points with attacking others, which doesn't help people see your side of the equation.