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Old Posted May 6, 2016, 3:17 PM
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Always good to hear that Greenbike is expanding. Hopefully more bike stations => more people on bikes => more bike infrastructure projects, such as more protected bike lanes and intersections.
I love that biking is becoming less of a hobby and more of a standard fare of transportation. It would make Mikael Colville-Andersen proud of our city.
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Old Posted May 9, 2016, 7:08 PM
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Sooo, this happened on Sunday:


Every indication is that the TRAX operator was expecting to go straight and accelerated out of Central Pointe station far too quickly for the sharp curve that leads out to West Valley.
Why the operator was expecting to go straight in a green-line train is not known.

Fun fact: TRAX does not have any Positive Train Control system to make sure operators follow speed limits or even signals. On FrontRunner, which has this control, the on-board computer constantly monitors the train's speed, and penalizes the operator if it exceeds the limit. It also makes sure the train approaches each signal at the right speed and does not run through restricting signals.
On TRAX, if your operator goes postal or falls asleep or whatever, there's nothing to save you. My guess is that this particular case was caused by an operator not paying attention to his/her job.

This morning, my commute took 2.5x as long as normal. Trains were running really infrequently, and when the RED LINE train came, it consisted of the classic Siemens 100 cars, which are not ADA compliant with the Mid-Jordan line stations. What few trains there were were packed.
At Central Pointe, there was a huge crane and a whole fleet of maintenance vehicles working on the tracks at the point of derailment. It is amazing how much infrastructure one derailment can destroy. The hole in the North Temple Viaduct is still there last time I checked, caused by the last Green Line derailment.


I thought this paragraph from the Tribune was both funny and really annoying at the same time:
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By 8:30 a.m. Monday, Barron said, crews using three heavy-duty construction cranes had managed to put the TRAX engine car back on the tracks. However, removal of that car and two others he had been pulling, along to subsequent safety checks, meant it likely would be 3 p.m. Monday before rail traffic resumes through the site.
It sounds like a foreign news article run through Google Translate.

This site, for those curious, is also the site of another derailment last year, also involving the GREEN LINE, in which two trains tried to 'merge' onto the same track. Again, an operator not following the signals was to blame, and again massive delays ensued.


And I could go on with all the accidents that have occurred on TRAX. Considering all the trains that run every day, TRAX is still really safe and its amazing how much worse it could be and all that, but I still wonder how long it will take for a safeguard system, such as already exists on FrontRunner, to be implemented on TRAX. These derailments cost a lot in terms of both $$ and rider confidence.
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This morning, my commute took 2.5x as long as normal. Trains were running really infrequently, and when the RED LINE train came, it consisted of the classic Siemens 100 cars, which are not ADA compliant with the Mid-Jordan line stations. What few trains there were were packed.
At Central Pointe, there was a huge crane and a whole fleet of maintenance vehicles working on the tracks at the point of derailment. It is amazing how much infrastructure one derailment can destroy. The hole in the North Temple Viaduct is still there last time I checked, caused by the last Green Line derailment.

Sundays are usually only operated with the seimens s70. With half hour frequencies and single car trains thats about 20-30 vehicles in use at any given time on the whole system. At least that's my guesstimate. With access to the storage and maintenance yard for the 50 or so Siemens s70's that weren't in use on sunday blocked, it would only make sense to use every last car from the older yard meant for use on the blue line to try to make up for the HUGE lack of capacity on the Red Line Monday.
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Theres been development occurring at the Kimballs Lane stop on the blue TRAX line. I was excited because it seemed like a big development. Turns out it is a funeral home, directly across from the stop. While this doesn't seem like a very good use for a piece of property that would have provided excellent transit oriented development, maybe they are banking on some type of analytics that they've discovered where people really like traveling to funerals via public transit?
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I agree, horrible use of a transit area.
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Old Posted May 23, 2016, 6:03 PM
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Following the accident two Sundays ago, UTA has one of those mobile speed limit signs that shows your speed on a big display underneath. All trains, not just green line trains, must be traveling less than 15 miles per hour through the switch. Which must mean that there is still some residual repairs to be done to the switch after the accident; why else would trains that are traveling straight still need to go slowly?

I'll add another project to my list of commuter rail lines upgrading infrastructure: The South Shore Line in Indiana. They just kicked off a project to double-track their already electrified commuter through a 25-mile bottleneck. This will apparently cost $210 million, or about $8.4 million per mile. But the time savings...!

Michigan City, Ind., to Chicago:
Before: 90 minutes
After: 67 minutes
% Change: 25% Faster

South Bend, Ind., to downtown Chicago:
Before:150 minutes
After: 105 minutes
% Change: 30% Faster

Even though FrontRunner is the result of a well-designed distribution of passing sidings (whereas the South Shore Line inherits their single-track+siding arrangement from historical uses of the line), these time savings are very probably the types of savings we could see if FrontRunner were to also be double tracked.

Word on the street has it that UTA is commissioning a study that would not only evaluate double-tracking and electrifying, but also grade separating and raising speed limits. Should all those things be done, time savings on FrontRunner could be as high as 40% or even approach 50%. I honestly doubt FrontRunner could be made entirely grade-separated, but there are sections that would benefit nicely from separating the crossings in order to facilitate higher speeds, such as 110 mph. This may be years away, but it is great to see that UTA is noticing the trend in commuter rail lines toward developing a fully fleshed-out infrastructure designed for minimum trip times, not simply passengers-per-hour.
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Salt Lake City makes Transportation For America's "Can-Do Cities" List

Inclusive planning, bipartisan support and ambitious investments are fueling economic prosperity.

http://t4america.org/maps-tools/loca...alt-lake-city/


Salt Lake City’s light rail, bus and commuter rail systems have been expanded with funding from a 2007 voter-approved sales tax, which won by a two-thirds majority.

Their “special sauce”? A combination of sound fiscal decision-making, agency collaboration, and a dedication among residents to get things done for the good of the community.

One ongoing challenge for the Salt Lake City region in particular is geography. How will a growing population maintain a good quality of life in a relatively thin sliver of land?

Utah is the sixth most urban state in the country, with 80 percent of the population residing along the Wasatch Front, a metropolitan region in the north-central part of the state that includes Salt Lake City, Provo, and Ogden. Bordered to the east by the Wasatch Mountain Range and to the west by the Great Salt Lake and Utah Lake, the region provides limited space for its two million residents.

To compound the issues associated with limited space, the Wasatch Front’s population is expected to increase 60 percent by the year 2040, swelling to 3.5 million people.

Residents, planners, business leaders and their elected officials are asking the question: How to accommodate that growth while maintaining the region’s reputation as an economic powerhouse with world-class outdoor recreational opportunities?

Answers to that question began in 1987 with the founding of the Coalition for Utah’s Future. From that coalition grew Envision Utah, a nonprofit organization focused on growth issues around the state. In 1997, Envision Utah launched a two-year research effort focused on the growth along the Wasatch Front. That process engaged approximately 20,000 participants and resulted in the Quality Growth Strategy, a vision for the Wasatch Front that aimed to accommodate growth while conserving more land and water, limiting emissions associated with the region’s air quality challenges and providing more transportation and land use choices to meet market demand.

Central to the strategy is focusing more of the expected growth along key transportation corridors with current or planned transit and roadway capacity.

“Our population nearly doubles every single day with the workforce coming in and out of our downtown,” said Robin Hutcheson, transportation director for Salt Lake City. But leaders are also looking beyond just getting people from the suburbs or satellite cities into downtown each day.

“In addition to providing circulation within our downtown area for commuters, we also have the challenge of providing transportation choices to our residents, many of whom never leave the City for their daily trips. And we are catching up,” she added. “We are trying very hard to implement projects that will help the mobility within our city, not just help people to get to our city.”



Greenbike, a new bikesharing system in downtown Salt Lake City helps make last-mile connections and serves as a circulator within the downtown core.

Along with almost unprecedented citizen participation in the region’s long-range planning efforts through Envision Utah, the region’s business community has also played a leadership role in advocating for additional transportation investment in local and state transportation needs.

“The number one issue ten years ago became the infrastructure,” said Lane Beattie, president and CEO of the Salt Lake City Area Chamber of Commerce.

“We realized right up front from a business community [perspective], that if we let the infrastructure slip in our communities, we would absolutely commit economic suicide,” Beattie added. “It takes so much longer to build yourself out of a problem once you’re in, so we had to address it. The business community stepped up and said we want commuter rail, we want light rail, we want roads.”

Since the 1990s, the Utah Transit Authority (UTA) has been busy building — almost from scratch — a huge transit network comprising 140 miles of commuter rail, light rail, streetcar, and bus rapid transit. Along with the spending of various other entities, about $10 billion has been invested during the past decade in downtown redevelopment, roads and transit.

In 2010, Utah’s transportation agencies all adopted a groundbreaking Unified Transportation Plan, the first of its kind in the country.

Assembled by local government and civic leaders from across the state, this plan outlines anticipated 30-year needs for road, transit, and active transportation projects, as well as capacity and maintenance needs for Utah’s metropolitan and rural areas.

“In providing more and better transportation choices, Utah’s Unified Transportation Plan supports a robust economy and high quality of life,” said Andrew Gruber, executive director for the Wasatch Front Regional Council. “The improvements identified in the Plan support a shared vision to improve the air we breathe and to provide for a safe, affordable transportation system. The Plan also proactively addresses maintenance needs, ensuring a quality transportation system in good repair now and for future generations.”

The Unified Transportation Plan calls for a third of the state’s future transportation investments to be made on state roads, a third on local roads, and a third on transit— defined as all other modes that help provide mobility, including bicycles, walking, vanpool, buses, light rail, commuter rail, street cars, etc. Transit-oriented development is another consideration in the plan as they seek to leverage the billions of dollars they’ve invested in transit by creating opportunities for more people to live, work, and recreate in communities centered around the transit connections.

In August 2013, the Utah Transit Authority completed its Frontlines 2015 Project—70 miles of new rail service over a seven-year period, finishing two years ahead of schedule and $300 million under budget. FrontRunner commuter rail now runs from Provo to Ogden. Five lines of TRAX light rail in the downtown area were extended to the suburbs, and a connecting line to Salt Lake City International Airport has been added. According to UTA, 25% of commuters arriving in downtown Salt Lake City each day now arrive by public transportation.

In addition, the S-line Sugarhouse streetcar project, supported with a federal TIGER grant, opened its first phase in December of 2013.

Federal contributions have been, and will continue to be, a crucial component of project funding. “We’ve been fortunate to acquire funds from a whole bevy of federal sources,” said Michael Allegra, president and CEO of UTA.

Salt Lake City’s commuter, light rail lines and express busses already carry the equivalent of two freeway lanes during peak traffic, and the University of Utah has reclaimed several parking lots, because more people are taking light rail to the campus. According to UTA, approximately one-third of the faculty, staff and students going to the University of Utah get there via public transportation.

“There is definitely an economic case to be made. We’re seeing more businesses choose to relocate or locate in our downtown area. And the ability to transport the workforce to the jobs is of course the most direct link to the economic engine that transportation can provide, especially for lower income residents of our community,” said Hutcheson.

While planned transportation investments were rolling along, the Salt Lake Chamber — Utah’s statewide chamber of commerce — worked with partners to create Downtown Rising, an initiative that promoted major reinvestment in Salt Lake City’s now-thriving urban core.

“The new transit infrastructure is a crucial factor for strengthening Utah’s economy,” said Greg Hughes, UTA board member and past chair, majority whip of the Utah State Legislature and former chair of its conservative caucus.

Hughes recognizes the enormous benefits good transit service has on recruiting smart, talented workers to the Salt Lake City region — and the subsequent impact on luring other companies to come to the region.

“For instance, we saw a major tech company relocate to Utah, adjacent to a commuter rail station. This location gave them access to a workforce located all along the Wasatch Front where employees can access FrontRunner commuter rail,” said Hughes. “…If you’re anywhere in the country and believe that a successful economy is the rising tide that lifts all ships, then you need to know that tech companies aren’t married to a geographic area. Your mass transit system is a major factor in where these corporations decide to relocate and where they draw their workforce from.”

David Golden, a banking executive with Wells Fargo and co-chair for Salt Lake Chamber’s transportation initiative the Utah Transportation Coalition, agrees.

“One thing I think we’ve proven is that an investment in transportation pays dividends for our economy and I think the citizens and leadership of our state generally understand that,” he said. “From a business community perspective, we understand how important this investment is and how beneficial it is. We are a growing state with numerous demands, but I think overall, transportation is a proven winner in this state and one that people are on board with getting behind.”

Golden points to an economic analysis that found a $1.94 gain in gross domestic product for every $1 invested in the Unified Transportation Plan. “That’s a winner,” he said.

“Utah sees its transportation infrastructure—rails, roads, buses—as a way to stay competitive, not just in the western United States, but globally,” said Hughes. “The world is flat. Our workforce—those students who are graduating from college and entering the workplace—they are not just competing regionally any longer. They’re competing on a world stage. Utah wants to be in that game. We want people to live and work in the state of Utah and be competitive.”

Through a lot of consensus-building and the cooperation of the public and private sectors on the Wasatch Front, the region’s leaders have laid the groundwork for economic prosperity for years to come. They’ve cultivated a heritage of leadership in the local business community. They’ve engaged thousands of citizens to think about what kind of place they want the Salt Lake City region to be decades down the road — and they’ve supported the vision with their tax dollars.

“We’ve still got more work to be done in investing for our future growth,” said Beattie. “The secret sauce that got us to this point will need a bit of seasoning to ensure we continue to invest prudently in our infrastructure and prosper as a region for years to come.”
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I think there is still a lot we could learn from Curitiba, Brazil - where the BRT (Bus Rapid Transit) System was invented in the 1970's. One thing I admire is how the system in Curitiba is 100% self-funded with no subsidies from the taxpayer. They have devised a completely rail-less public transit system that hauls 2.3 million commuters a day with it's triple-articulated super-buses (which they worked with Volvo to create). A single one of these super-buses can carry 5,000 people per day. The system hauls more than a traditional subway system for hundreds of times less the cost, and is entirely budget-neutral. Any city can implement such a system in under 2 years with a very manageable initial investment.



Marechal Floriano BRT station, Linha Verde (Green Line), Curitiba RIT, Brazil

"Cars are like our mother-in-law. We have to have a good relationship with our mothers-in-law, but we cannot let them conduct our lives." Former 3-term mayor and creator of the BRT System, Jaime Lerner.

I admire how much he was able to fight the 70's flood of cars and preserve the city from the decimation so many other cities had to endure. He spared dozens of city blocks from being demolished to make way for wider roads and parking lots. The vast majority of the residents of the city now use the bus.

"The city is not as complex as the complexity sellers would lead us to believe."

I think you may find this 15-min video rather interesting. We can learn a lot from Curitiba, beyond just it's impressive mass-transit system.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRD3l3rlMpo

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^^^ Would love to see something like this on State Street and 700 E
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There is so much potential all over the valley! I know UTA has made a meager start at implementing BRT on 35th South, but I feel like resources are being diverted to other more expensive projects and really holding back all the BRT potential around the valley. Now that the public is becoming a bit more skeptical of UTA and refusing to provide it with additional taxpayer funds, it could use this as an opportunity to pivot into expanding it's BRT network.

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Compared with Curitiba, the MAX line on 35th south hardly counts as BRT. It has that one section where it has a center lane (singular), and one center station, but it really isn't even comparable to the high-priority system that Curitiba has created.

It will be fun to see people's reaction to the Provo-Orem BRT line when that opens in April 2018. UTA expects about 13,000 riders per day, on (single) articulated buses that run every 5 minutes at peak hours - as compared with the current local bus that runs every 15 minutes, has no special stations or priority, and carries only a few hundred riders per day. If that type of upgrade doesn't grab people's attention, I don't know what will.
With the success of the Provo-Orem line, hopefully we will see the other oft-discussed projects get some approval (and funding) as well - such as the South Davis BRT, the Redwood Road BRT, or even the State Street BRT. Maybe even upgrade the existing MAX on 35th south to a full-fledged BRT route.
All I know is that UTA so far has shown that it is serious about building out a huge BRT network, but that they won't get funding or support for it unless there is one good project to 'break the ice'. And that project will open in just under 2 years... so stay tuned.
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curitiba's busses run every 90 seconds. The proposed line on 4700 S will have a 10 minute headway...
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I do like the expansion plans of BRT throughout the UTA system. They completed a BRT line right in front of my Apartment while I lived in Cleveland, The Health Line. It connects downtown Cleveland with University Circle (Home of Case Western University, and Case Western University) these are Clevelands two biggest employment clusters.

The did it right and made dedicated center lanes the entire route, and reduced the road it runs on to one lane in each direction for the majority of the line.

Another issue with the 35th S Maxx, besides only have a portion in a dedicated lanes, is that it in the middle of what is basically a 10 lane highway (if you count the dedicated lanes. That isn't overly conducive to encourage ridership. Unless WVC allows for zoning along 35th S to be 10 stories or more, it's simply going to be another bus.


As for the article, while the numbers are ok, I'd line to see the percentages for funding be shifted to 25% to State roads, 25% for local roads, and 50% to transit, which includes Active Transportation. I would also like to see the number of commuters coming to downtown up to 50%. As the downtown office space grows that percentage by transit number is going to be critical in order to not increase traffic congestion on I-15.
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I definitely agree that the MAX line hardly even qualifies as BRT with just the one segment that goes for what, a couple miles? If they could at least connect the existing designated lanes to the Blue/Red-line, that would be a start. I just feel like if they keep half-assing their BRT's like they did 35th South, the public won't get behind it. In Curitiba, Lerner got the people behind it and was able to capitalize on that momentum. With the recent strike-down of that last tax increase, I feel like the public tide is already starting to turn against UTA. Let's hope they can pull off the Prorem line with fully separated bus lanes and platforms the ENTIRE length of the route.

The article shows how we are leaps and bounds ahead of much of the nation, but that is a pretty low standard to beat. We definitely have a way to go. I would also feel better if we could push that percentage of down town commuters to at least a third, then hopefully a half not too long after that. While putting a third of transportation resources behind transit is a good start, I also hope that goes up in time.

It is encouraging how the U has been able to reclaim several parking lots for more room to build due to the high participation they have with UTA. But, still, only a third of campus uses UTA when they have free passes? What's up with that?! That could be higher. I recently read another article that said a study showed that the UTA system takes 120,000 daily vehicle trips off Wasatch Front roads, which is phenomenal! But I bet we could double that with the next wave of expansion of public transit. The key is to keep the mindset going of always building, expanding, and maintaining a robust public transport system. We should never look at it as a one-and-done type of project, which I think we are doing well at, but could get lax about it in the future.

Once again, let's hope UTA doesn't half-ass the rest of the BRT network. I think that BRT could really be an important pillar of the system that fills in the gaps between the light rail, commuter rail, and street-car lines. It's very effective and much cheaper than rail. Don't get me wrong, I say put the trains in where there are existing rail corridors, but let's put BRT in the remaining areas.

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^^^ Would love to see something like this on State Street and 700 E
I could see 700 E happening but probably not State St. State is I-15's main overflow/detour/alternate route. I don't think UDOT would approve of dedicated transit lanes and it's close enough to Trax that UTA wouldn't push for it. That being said something needs to be done. I think that protected bike lanes with better bus stops would be great, and probably be more likely to get pushed through.

I actually think 700 E will eventually get BRT. The success/failure of the provo-orem route is going to set the tone for BRT in Utah. Cross your fingers
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The anti-BRT petition is firing up again down in Provo.

If it wasn't for their constant foot dragging, we might have construction rolling already.
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Why the F*** are they anti BRT for? Utah County desperatly needs improved mass transit. Getting around here without a car is awful.
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Why the F*** are they anti BRT for? Utah County desperatly needs improved mass transit. Getting around here without a car is awful.
Start a "Hurry up with the BRT" petition?
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This is nonsense we're dealing with on the Our Provo Facebook group:



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