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[ethereal_reality]

Thanks for all your help GW and Flyingwedge. I really appreciate it.



These six mouse-size dormers are a fascinating element on the roof.


detail

Do you think they were merely a decorative feature or functional (air vents?)

I was hoping to spot them among the rafters in the interior photo....but they're not visible.

[ethereal_reality]

And here's another early view of the current Los Angeles County Club as seen from a bend in Wilshire Blvd.


www.collectorsweekly.com

I have to say.. it looks more like a mental health facility or prison than a country club. (I think the water tower gives it that vibe)

of course the fancier side with the twin oval porches is facing the links - so there's that.
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The photo is from







for search purposes:
"Good Roads in Southern California", issued by Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce

[Martin Pal]

I found this online 3D tour of Angel's Flight on board the Olivet car and around the California Plaza Station House and the Hill Street Arch of the Angels Flight Railway:

http://craigsauer3d.com/3d-model/angels-flight-railway/

[ethereal_reality]

I found this cabinet card in an old file of mine labeled Los Angeles vicinity.

ebay

The tallest part of the house appears to be octogonal.





& unless my eyes deceive me there appears to be a small suspension bridge in the yard.


detail

I believe the whitish shapes under the trees (to the left of the house) might be animal pelts.



there's also this one in the foreground.

[ethereal_reality]

'mystery' church

located at 1250 E. 34th Street


Laurie Avocado


what in sam blazes?

Laurie Avocado

So utterly strange.

hmmmm...do you think an artist is using the former church as a workshop?




I should have said used, past tense, because here's what it looks looks like today.


gsv

Is anyone familiar with this area? I'd like to know what denomination built the church (and when)

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This rare photograph shows a woman sitting in front of building in Agricultural Park (now Exposition Park)


ucla digital archives

I wonder why there is so much debris in the foreground? (I was going to say maybe they just finished construction) -but the building looks a bit worn to me.
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That's actually a pretty good guess, e_r. This photo appears to show the same building before it was enlarged.
If the building had just been expanded, that might account for the scrap lumber in the foreground of your pic:



P-010-0218 @ Seaver Center

Seaver Center titles this photo "Race At Exposition Park Between Goldsmith And Rarus In Early 1880s."
However, the same photo, by Carleton Watkins, is at the CA State Library, where the photo is correctly
identified as "The Race Between Goldsmith Maid & Rarus, Los Angeles" (1877).

[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

'mystery' church

located at 1250 E. 34th Street


Laurie Avocado


I should have said used, past tense, because here's what it looks looks like today.


gsv

Is anyone familiar with this area? I'd like to know what denomination built the church (and when)

It does look like an artist might have been in residence...but sadly the church building may actually now be gone since the last GSV image. A demo permit was issued on March 30 of this year....


A BP was issued for a church on the lot on Jan 24, 1938.



From the LA Sentinel, Nov 11, 1948:





From the demo BP:

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

It does look like an artist might have been in residence...but sadly the church building may actually now be gone since the last GSV image. A demo permit was issued on March 30 of this year....


A BP was issued for a church on the lot on Jan 24, 1938.



From the LA Sentinel, Nov 11, 1948:

A church could not exist in this location in 2017 due to lack of parking and other reasons.

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

These six mouse-size dormers are a fascinating element on the roof.

Do you think they were merely a decorative feature or functional (air vents?)

I would guess air vents, but don't know for sure.
They are fascinating, though.

[Martin Pal]

Angel's Flight Reopens Again Today!

(If any of this has been previously covered, well, feel free to enjoy it again!)

While looking around at various Angels Flight articles recently, alot of them have rightly discussed the troubles with Angels Flight since it's reopening in 1996 and subsequently. Many of them referred to the previous incarnation and it's lack of any trouble, That's not entirely true. Some things I discovered:

--In 1923, during a September evening rush hour, the control shaft connecting the safety winch hoist snapped, sending Sinai, which was at the top of the slope, plummeting down the incline. Some bruises and broken bones were reported. The worst injury was to a Mrs. Hostetter, who elected to leap out of Sinai as it was descending. She probably would've faired better if she hadn't. Incidentally, she lived at the Lovejoy Apartments at Third and Grand.

--This wasn't the railway's fault, but in 1937 a salesman name Jack Claus decided to take a nap on the tracks. (He was dubbed "Sleepy Claus" in the press.) He was dragged fifteen feet down the incline, his clothes torn from his body and severe chest injuries. He survived, though.

--In 1943, a sailor wasn't as lucky. He decided to walk up the tracks. He was struck by one of the cars and hurled under the wheels of the descending one. This was August 31, 1943. Again, this wasn't the fault of the railway.

Another interesting thing:

--When the planning for the Bunker Hill redevelopment was in force, the CRA was given $35,000 in 1962, roughly $250,000 today, to relocate Angels Flight, which they announced would be to either Griffith Park or the Hollywood Bowl. IMO, it would be a lovely addition to the bowl, though probably not so practical in moving thousands of people in a short time span. By 1968, they said Angel's Flight was going to be taken down, stored for a couple years, and then rebuilt in the same location. Wonder what they did with the money?

wikimedia


The dismantling ceremony May 16, 1969.

Metro Library & Archive

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Angel's Flight Reopens Again Today!



--In 1943, a sailor wasn't as lucky. He decided to walk up the tracks. He was struck by one of the cars and hurled under the wheels of the descending one. This was August 31, 1943. Again, this wasn't the fault of the railway.

--In 1943, a sailor wasn't as lucky. He decided to walk up the tracks. He was struck by one of the cars and hurled under the wheels of the descending one. This was August 31, 1943. Again, this wasn't the fault of the railway.

Well, I looked into my crystal ball [she never fails me], and what did I see...4 empty beer bottles....

[Hollywood Graham]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Angel's Flight Reopens Again Today!

(If any of this has been previously covered, well, feel free to enjoy it again!)

While looking around at various Angels Flight articles recently, alot of them have rightly discussed the troubles with Angels Flight since it's reopening in 1996 and subsequently. Many of them referred to the previous incarnation and it's lack of any trouble, That's not entirely true. Some things I discovered:

--In 1923, during a September evening rush hour, the control shaft connecting the safety winch hoist snapped, sending Sinai, which was at the top of the slope, plummeting down the incline. Some bruises and broken bones were reported. The worst injury was to a Mrs. Hostetter, who elected to leap out of Sinai as it was descending. She probably would've faired better if she hadn't. Incidentally, she lived at the Lovejoy Apartments at Third and Grand.

--This wasn't the railway's fault, but in 1937 a salesman name Jack Claus decided to take a nap on the tracks. (He was dubbed "Sleepy Claus" in the press.) He was dragged fifteen feet down the incline, his clothes torn from his body and severe chest injuries. He survived, though.

--In 1943, a sailor wasn't as lucky. He decided to walk up the tracks. He was struck by one of the cars and hurled under the wheels of the descending one. This was August 31, 1943. Again, this wasn't the fault of the railway.

Another interesting thing:

--When the planning for the Bunker Hill redevelopment was in force, the CRA was given $35,000 in 1962, roughly $250,000 today, to relocate Angels Flight, which they announced would be to either Griffith Park or the Hollywood Bowl. IMO, it would be a lovely addition to the bowl, though probably not so practical in moving thousands of people in a short time span. By 1968, they said Angel's Flight was going to be taken down, stored for a couple years, and then rebuilt in the same location. Wonder what they did with the money?

wikimedia


The dismantling ceremony May 16, 1969.

Metro Library & Archive

The best choice would have been to move it to Travel Town in Griffith Park. There is or was a hill next to the parking lot and would have been a fitting place for it. After all it would fit with the Travel Town theme and would have been a draw fot Travel Town.

[odinthor]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

--In 1943, a sailor wasn't as lucky. He decided to walk up the tracks. He was struck by one of the cars and hurled under the wheels of the descending one. This was August 31, 1943. Again, this wasn't the fault of the railway.

Well, I looked into my crystal ball [she never fails me], and what did I see...4 empty beer bottles....

I had a concealed artist standing by to catch the moment:

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by odinthor

I had a concealed artist standing by to catch the moment:

You too?.....that's great...another psychic like me.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

That's actually a pretty good guess, e_r. This photo appears to show the same building before it was enlarged.
If the building had just been expanded, that might account for the scrap lumber in the foreground of your pic:

Seaver Center

Thanks once for your help FW. I'm glad you spotted the addition in the back.

I guess it's pretty obvious...but the building is a hotel, right?

the one mentioned in this article from 1879 (no doubt.


Los Angeles Herald - April 17, 1879


one last look


Did the hotel have a name?...or was it simply called the Agricultural Park Hotel?
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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality;7

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Los Angeles Herald - April 17, 1879



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I read the ad. Thank goodness they only want ''respectable" people. I certainly don't want to stay at some sleazy hotel.

How can they tell..,?

[ethereal_reality]

While searching for information on the hotel at Agriculture Park, I happened upon this intriguing photograph. (I think it's new to NLA)


Metro Library Archive

The vague description in the archive is "Main St and Agricultural Park Railway (Now Exposition Park)"

Any idea why the men are posed in front of this rather nondescript house?


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[ethereal_reality]

Here is another photo from the Metro archives. This time there isn't a description at all.


Metro Library and Archive

To me, t looks like an old farm building (or carriage house) being repurposed for the railway.
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I just changed my mind..they're tearing down

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Sadly the church building may actually now be gone since the last GSV image. A demo permit was issued on March 30 of this year....

A BP was issued for a church on the lot on Jan 24, 1938.




LA Sentinel, Nov 11, 1948




From the demo BP:

Thanks for the information GW.
It's kinda' sad the church is about to be torn down if it hasn't been already.

but it really bugs me that Elder William Waters professes he can cure Cancer, Tuberculosis etc in that ad.


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[oldstuff]

[QUOTE=ethereal_reality;7911463]re: C. W. Hollister House, 1763 Cahuenga [by Greene & Greene]




I just came across this sepia print that appears to have taken the same day. [EDIT: I changed my mind. The little girl has grown in this pic and has a bow in her hair]


UC Berkeley archive via lamag

Or.....maybe it's a different little girl (the plants in the courtyard haven't grown at all)


The girls in the first picture are probably daughters Cora, born in 1901 and Gertrude, born in 1906. The family is listed on N. Cahuenga in the 1910 census and lived there for a time afterward. Given the clothes on the children in the picture, the photos were taken sometime around 1910-1920. The second photo showing the little girl was probably taken later than the first and the child is probably Gertrude since she was blond and Cora had dark hair.

The family appears in the 1900 census, living in Pasadena. In that census Charles, Cora's husband is listed as a mine owner. He is later listed as being a clergyman and in 1919 they are listed in Venice, CA where Charles was the Rector of the Episcopal Church of the Good Shepherd.

There are other photos of the house, including one looking at the courtyard from the other direction, on the Greene & Greene virtual website. There are several views of the house, one interior of the living room and some plan drawings. http://dpg.lib.berkeley.edu/webdb/gg...rch?siteid=179