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Old Posted Sep 20, 2014, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by alchemist redux View Post
Instead of a second BART tunnel, would it make sense to extend a heavy rail HSR/Caltrain tunnel across the Bay instead? This would turn Transbay into a through station. At the east portal, it could effectively become a wye, where the current Capitol Corridor - in both directions - could be electrified.

I don't know the logistics or cost differential of this, but some of the things this would allow would be more direct SF-Sacramento HSR service, and an alternative one seat route from the East Bay through Silicon Valley to San Jose.
MTC is actually studying this alternative. Here is one of their maps of a 4 track BART/heavy rail transbay tube that can be used by both Caltrain and BART. The BART tube continues through to to the west. I am unsure if they are still putting the south facing tail tracks on the new TTC. I think they were also looking at high(ish) speed electrified Capital Corridor trains being diverted into the City (some of them, obviously some will continue to the South Bay suburbs).

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Old Posted Sep 20, 2014, 1:06 AM
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Tiger grant award

Also, I didn't realize we had this transportation forum, so let me re-post this here:

MTC just got the only TIGER Grant in the SF Bay Area, and it is for a Core Capacity Transit Study. Read more about it in the documents with the Tiger Application here:


It seems they are studying transbay alternatives. I've poured through lots of MTC documents, some have been looking at putting a new transbay tube right next to the existing one with switch tracks on each end. These could be used to extend BART service into later hours (the major impediment to 24 hour service is the fact that the two tracks must be closed for nightly track work). After entering SF and going through the switch tracks, the new alignment could then continue down any street (Mission for example to connect to TTC) and then head west down Geary/Folsom/etc).

This grant doesn't mention heavy rail like Caltrain crossing the Bay. I think one interesting idea that MTC is looking at is to have an intermodal station between BART and the Capital Corridor right in West Oakland, that way one can ride the Capitol Corridor (or SJ's or any intercity Amtrak line) and then have a quick 8 minute ride into the city (instead of the god-forsaken richmond transfer to BART, or bus transfer at Emeryville, or Coliseum transfer to BART). This could make the Capital Corridor and SJ ridership EXPLODE as they now could be used for reasonable commuting. Another idea is to have a new East Bay BART line that directly serves Emeryville, thus providing a similarly direct connection.
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The newest APTA ridership report is out.

Some local highlights:

*Muni is up to 761,300 daily riders
*BART is up to 432,700 daily riders
*VTA is up to 146,500 daily riders
*Caltrain is up to 57,500 daily riders
*Golden Gate Transit is down to 30,000 daily riders
*Bay Area ferry boats now carry 14,700 daily riders

Not all regional transit systems provide data to APTA (SamTrans, AC Transit, Altamont Commuter Express being the most notable). When we combine all the APTA data with ridership data from Wikipedia and the local media for all Bay Area transit agencies, we learn:

*AC Transit carries around 200,000 daily bus riders
*SamTrans carries around 50,000 daily bus riders

*Regional commuter rail ridership (ACE, Caltrain, Capitol Corridor, San Joaquins) now exceeds 70,500 daily riders
*Total Bay Area ridership on railroads--light rail, metro rail, commuter rail--is up to 762,000 daily riders.

*Total Bay Area transit ridership (boat, bus, train) exceeds 1,746,300 daily riders. That doesn't include the estimated 30,000 daily riders on local shuttles (Google Buses, etc.).
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