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Apple generally prefers total control over their buildouts, especially in big cities, and they aren't afraid to fight with city planning committees to build stores wherever and however they want. I can't see them moving into an existing mag mile building, most of which are pretty old, where all they can change is the interior.

They might be better off attaching themselves to a new building, like that new Sterling Bay project at 300 N Mich (which included an Apple-ish store in one render) or the 2 floors of retail at 200 N Mich.

Otherwise, if they want to stay in mag mile north they're probably looking for a building they can demolish and completely replace, and there aren't many that don't have stuff on top of them.

A move south of the River by Apple would be huge. Actually though, they should really expand south of the river, not move their one truly downtown location there. Obviously the market is there, and they certainly have been interested in the past, as they were in discussions for a Block 37 store several years ago......200 N Michigan or the 300 Michigan site would indeed also work very well. BTW, re the 300 (current dilapidated Walgreens) site - AFAIK, Sterling Bay is selling this site to its ultimate developer. Hotel/retail, residential/retail, or hotel/residential/retail being the likely program options.....
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A move south of the River by Apple would be huge. Actually though, they should really expand south of the river, not move their one truly downtown location there. Obviously the market is there, and they certainly have been interested in the past, as they were in discussions for a Block 37 store several years ago......200 N Michigan or the 300 Michigan site would indeed also work very well. BTW, re the 300 (current dilapidated Walgreens) site - AFAIK, Sterling Bay is selling this site to its ultimate developer. Hotel/retail, residential/retail, or hotel/residential/retail being the likely program options.....
There is no way Apple will move the Michigan Ave store south of the river.
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There have been persistent rumors, including a premature announcement by an alderman, about an Apple Store at Roosevelt Collection as well, but that's always seemed like a long shot. I don't think there's any large units available there, which, wow, is a surprising thing to say about that place.
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they should buy out that stupid mattress store at state and Roosevelt.
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they should buy out that stupid mattress store at state and Roosevelt.
You do realize that store is far too small to be an apple store. Also its not a good location.
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One guy did say they should be encouraging those people to stay and spend their money and build motor row back up.
Indeed there was, that was me.
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I just hope they don't get rid of/close off that pedestrian bridge...
Unfortunatly, about half of the bridge is attached directly to the building they are tearing down, so it will probably not remain in its current form...but I agree that I hope they put it back...
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Indeed there was, that was me.
Thought it sounded like a SSPer thing to say, but I convinced myself there must be other people who see the benefit of increased density and foot traffic.
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http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...51H5815023C7T#

Apple is looking for other locations on Michigan Avenue, including the current Top Shop space, apparently. I wonder if this means Top Shop is thinking of closing already or moving, or if GGP is just willing to get rid of them in order to secure Apple as a tenant?
What I'd like to see is Apple taking over that project we recently saw to put a small building on Pioneer Court as an entrance to a river-level restaurant below. (http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2...-glass-box.php)

With the shift south towards Millennium Park, Pioneer Court is a lot more central than it used to be, so it would work well for Apple from a traffic standpoint.

And the site is an amazing fit for them. For some strange reason, Apple seems to do their best stores in locations like that where they can build an iconic standalone glass structure acting as an entrance for a larger below-ground store. I imagine the river-level frontage could only add to that sort of store.

Compare this:
https://www.apple.com/retail/fifthavenue/
or this:
https://www.apple.com/cn/retail/pudong/
or this:
https://www.apple.com/tr/retail/zorlucenter/
to the concept image for the location in the curbed article (or compare it to the existing Chicago Apple Stores; I've actually been kind of disappointed in Apple's Chicago stores given what they've done elsewhere).
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^Thats a great idea. A while ago I said Hancock Center should get rid of their sunken retail plaza and do something like those underground Apple Stores, but if they did that right on the river it could help activate river-level retail as a concept.
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^ I don't know. It would be too much like "hey look at me, I'm just like New York!" for me.
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^ I don't know. It would be too much like "hey look at me, I'm just like New York!" for me.
I don't think so. Apple may want that signature design for heavy pedestrian areas. Not necessarily us trying to be just like New York.
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^ I don't know. It would be too much like "hey look at me, I'm just like New York!" for me.
New York isn't the only place they've gone with that sort of all glass entry/skylight design. I actually prefer the cylindrical Pudong store.
But, yeah, I suppose there are people who would only have heard of the New York one and think it's a knock-off.

And it would be a very strong piece of branding in a very prominent location (even if there is no sign text and the logo itself is smaller than the one at the existing Magnificent Mile store), so I suppose some people might find it too commercial.

I imagine I'd still prefer it to getting the restaurant entrance depicted in the curbed article plus a renovation of an existing space for the new Apple Store.
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I'd prefer not to have retail on Pioneer Court... it's actually a very impressive civic space that isn't cluttered with commercialism. Restaurants (especially big outdoor ones like Howell and Hood) match that civic character pretty well, and they are commonplace on European plazas... Flagship retail, not so much.

That Apple underground design is actually very clever - they can go into weird below-grade spaces that are pretty undesirable otherwise, so they pay less in rent. Apple is iconic enough that they don't need passersby to see inside like a traditional store. Plus, in underground spots, they don't need to take up valuable wall space for windows and they get maximal space for merchandise and graphics.
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you're not alone. it is somewhat of an icon, at least to me, but as you say, i won't be down there with a picket if they tear it down.

i think because it was in some 80's movies (including, i think, that shitty parent-and-offspring-switch-bodies movie with fred savage and judge reinhold had a scene there.)
Relieved to hear it's not just me. Thought it might be just us.

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http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...51H5815023C7T#

Apple is looking for other locations on Michigan Avenue, including the current Top Shop space, apparently. I wonder if this means Top Shop is thinking of closing already or moving, or if GGP is just willing to get rid of them in order to secure Apple as a tenant?
Yeah, my first thoughts went to Topshop, too. I didn't see any news on Racked, but maybe that's because I was distracted by their Hottest Trainer contest.
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I'm surprised the michigan ave apple store rumors have come to light only recently. Seems like this was discussed here over a year ago.
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Is the old Filene's Basement space in the Top Shop building still vacant? I wonder if they might just buy the whole building, kick everyone out, and knock it down.
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Is the old Filene's Basement space in the Top Shop building still vacant? I wonder if they might just buy the whole building, kick everyone out, and knock it down.
Isn't that were Uniqlo is opening?
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There are a lot of strange assumptions about Apple in here like them not being willing to build into existing historical structures when there is ample evidence to the contrary. GCT, Soho (NYC), Covent Garden, Opera (Paris), Lincoln Road (Miami), and many others. I would be floored if they moved south of the river and historical buildings are not at all out of the realm of consideration for a new North Michigan Ave store. Most of the stuff along Michigan to isn't that type of building anyway and any of those landlords would be tripping over themselves to rent to Apple and would agree to any required modifications.

A secondary store may be in the future for the loop/millennium park but that doesn't look like something that will happen in the near term, particularly with the Lincoln Park store having opened only a few years ago.
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