When it comes to nudging drivers out of cars, Vancouver ranks as North America’s biggest success story.
Fully 10 percent of commutes to work are on bikes, far exceeding U.S. and Canadian cities of a comparable size.
As of 2015, half of all trips within city limits are taken on foot, bike, or transit—a goal the city had hoped to reach
by 2020. Ahead of schedule—and way ahead of its peers on this continent—Vancouver’s “active transit” success
is the subject of a new short documentary by STREETFILMS. In interviews with key planning officials and
advocates in attendance at a summer 2016 placemaking conference, filmmaker Clarence Eckerson traces
the city’s remarkable urban trajectory and shows how Vancouver managed to avoid the planning pitfalls that
claimed so many other towns over the past few decades.
Vancouver is much more car-oriented than the other major Canadian cities, so this makes no sense. Montreal and Toronto have significantly higher non-auto share.
And obviously NYC and every city in Mexico is less car oriented than Vancouver.
To be honest, if Vancouver (city proper) has reached <50% auto mode share that's pretty impressive. Auto mode share in Vancouver has decreased significantly from 2006 to 2011 so perhaps that decrease has continued and was not entirely due to the opening of the Canada Line.
For Toronto, the biggest area you could take and still maintain <50% auto mode share is basically just Old Toronto as of the 2011 numbers. Adding areas like York, East York, Willowdale, Central or Southern Etobicoke would already bump Toronto over the 50% auto mode share mark. There is about 2% "other" which is other than auto, transit or walk/bike (like what? skateboard? moped?) so depending what other consists of maybe you could add East York or York and still be equal to Vancouver. But even so, that's about 20% of the CMA vs about 25% for Vancouver city proper.
What are vancouver rents like? I know they have a big problem with housing prices, but I seem to recall rents were fairly reasonable in comparison. Anyone familiar with the market?
As always, what about the millions of people in the region that don't live in the small City of Vancouver area?
It is great the central core is doing so well. But the mode shift has to be made in the suburbs. And in that regard, Toronto and Montreal are still ahead of Vancouver.
If you shrank Montreal or Toronto to their "original" sizes in terms of sq km, boothwould easily pass Vancouver. Vancouver looks impressive because the city is only 640,000 while Montreal is 2 million and Toronto is 2.9.
Vancouver has lower density levels than either Toronto or Montreal and significantly lower transit ridership and even lower than Ottawa. Vancouver has doe a lot of things right but due to it's artificially small city boundaries it looks far better on paper than it does i reality. Facts speak for themselves.........despite Greater Vancouver having just 2.5 million, it has the 2nd longest commutes in NA second only to LA.
If you shrank Montreal or Toronto to their "original" sizes in terms of sq km, boothwould easily pass Vancouver. Vancouver looks impressive because the city is only 640,000 while Montreal is 2 million and Toronto is 2.9.
Vancouver has lower density levels than either Toronto or Montreal and significantly lower transit ridership and even lower than Ottawa. Vancouver has doe a lot of things right but due to it's artificially small city boundaries it looks far better on paper than it does i reality. Facts speak for themselves.........despite Greater Vancouver having just 2.5 million, it has the 2nd longest commutes in NA second only to LA.
Not sure about Montreal, but it actually doesn't seem to be the case with Toronto. If Vancouver (city) really has 50% non-auto mode share, that's about the same as Old Toronto.
how can vancouver be held up as an example of anything to be emulated? the conditions that created vancouver are so unique and non-repeatable that the lessons for other cities are basically zero. the "remarkable urban trajectory" was all about foreign money laundering and real estate corruption.
Portand+50$ billion in Chinese Capital=>Vancouver.
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What are vancouver rents like? I know they have a big problem with housing prices, but I seem to recall rents were fairly reasonable in comparison. Anyone familiar with the market?
It is very high. I was paying $1450 a month for a tiny 1 bedroom apartment downtown. Plus another $100 a month for a parking spot. It was a brand new building in a nice area though.
And when I say tiny I mean 465 sq ft not including the big balcony.
It is very high. I was paying $1450 a month for a tiny 1 bedroom apartment downtown. Plus another $100 a month for a parking spot. It was a brand new building in a nice area though.
how can vancouver be held up as an example of anything to be emulated? the conditions that created vancouver are so unique and non-repeatable that the lessons for other cities are basically zero. the "remarkable urban trajectory" was all about foreign money laundering and real estate corruption.
Portand+50$ billion in Chinese Capital=>Vancouver.
C'mon, man. Why comment on something that you have zero information on? Vancouver's current infrastructure, density and overall livability that's highlighted in this article dates all the way back to the 1960s with the protests against a freeway being built in the city, and the literal rise of the Westend. True, it would be difficult to emulate what Vancouver has done, but how it got there is far more complex (and interesting) than "It was all Mainland Chinese money!" If you are truly interested, and not just in here to troll, start by reading these:
It is very high. I was paying $1450 a month for a tiny 1 bedroom apartment downtown. Plus another $100 a month for a parking spot. It was a brand new building in a nice area though.
And when I say tiny I mean 465 sq ft not including the big balcony.
Huh.
I live in Norfolk va in a 600 sq ft apartment for 1250 a month and 55 for parking a month.
Granted it's a really nice place, but 1400-1500 for an apartment seems quite reasonable.
It is very high. I was paying $1450 a month for a tiny 1 bedroom apartment downtown. Plus another $100 a month for a parking spot. It was a brand new building in a nice area though.
And when I say tiny I mean 465 sq ft not including the big balcony.
If this is CAD (.75 to 1.00) then this is pretty affordable.
^ Assuming that they're paying with US dollars (for some reason?)
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