Originally Posted by Ted Lyons
I missed that specific reference to Babcock but, regardless, that's just one of the neighboring properties and the most likely to be redeveloped by the university at some point. The properties to the east, which will be on a tiny island of very visible, almost undevelopable land are more concerning to me.
Babcock sits next to the corner lot. If you're talking about the NE corner, I agree. Moving west of the tower site sits, Babcock, McD's, a bank and then the underpass. West of that is mostly parking that was once planned to be a new campus for the engineering college... don't know what came of it.
Originally Posted by Qwijib0
Sorry about putting words in your mouth
I think we actually may be closer in opinion than not. Cross-town movement is important but I think that the Grant and 22nd improvements plus LINKS (also sorry for mis-characterizing your opinion of) will be able to handle the expected load, given current volumes without dedicating 3 lanes of broadway to cars as well. That stretch of Broadway is pretty much the last unimproved thoroughfare in 'old' Tucson that was built with human-scale and walkability in mind. I'd hate to not try extending a multi-modal road (car+transit+bike+walk) from downtown rather than prioritizing vehicles in the last stretch of the city where there are valuable bones close to a university population that is heavily walk and bike that might be revitalized given streetscape and transit investment. Impressions of what Tucson can be have changed dramatically since the RTA vote so I think revisiting it is worthwhile.
Very rational post. I'm of the 'reevaluate camp', but it isn't from an anti-car or anti-progress POV. Having lived on the East side, I know everyone driving to I-10 already avoids Broadway b/c of downtown. People will catch Barazza/LINKS at Golf Links or 22nd (or not at all if coming from the NE).
Four-lanes each way, with right and left (or even double-left) turn lanes at intersections and hopefully a RoW LRT is just too much for the walkable urban atmosphere we're hoping to create in that little corner of the city. I don't think it is unreasonable to draw a rectangle with the university and I-10 at 22nd as the corners and focus on density, walkability and transit inside those boundaries. A fifth of Tucsonans live and/or work in that area. Can we preserve at least that section of Broadway, Stone and both 6th's for people who don't drive 20+ miles to work?