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Old Posted Apr 1, 2014, 2:03 AM
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I crossed the Golden Gate Bridge twice last Thursday and didn't see any construction.
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Hi guys. I just came through San Fran on the weekend on my way back up to Canada and just wondering if someone could tell me what the construction is by the Golden Gate bridge. I tried doing a search but can't find any info. I appreciate any info you can share.
Do you mean all the Doyle Drive construction?
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Old Posted Apr 1, 2014, 10:44 AM
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Ah, that must be it. I thought he was talking about buildings going up and couldn't think of any.
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S.F. planners consider 19th Avenue subway




Travel time along the M-Ocean View Muni Metro line averages just 8 to 9 mph along 19th Avenue, where it has to contend with traffic signals and congestion around San Francisco State and Stonestown Galleria. Photo: Michael Short, The Chronicle


To catch a Muni train on 19th Avenue, S.F. State students, Stonestown shoppers and others must cross three lanes of traffic. Photo: Michael Short, The Chronicle

Michael Cabanatuan
Wednesday, April 2, 2014

With the Central Subway well under construction, San Francisco transportation planners are eyeing a possible 19th Avenue subway to speed travel on the sluggish M-Ocean View Muni Metro line.

A recently completed feasibility study recommends building a subway from St. Francis Circle south to San Francisco State University, with stations at Stonestown Galleria and the university. Along the university campus, one track would be below ground and one would be at street level.

The tracks would be extended at ground level through Parkmerced, crossing Junipero Serra Boulevard on a bridge and then traveling at street level to rejoin the existing M line at Randolph Street.
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Building a subway beneath 19th Avenue could help solve two problems: a painfully slow stretch of light-rail line and a dangerous length of highway that forces San Francisco State students, Stonestown shoppers and other riders to cross three lanes of traffic to catch a train.
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The M-Ocean View, which carries about 27,000 riders a day, averages just 8 to 9 mph along 19th Avenue, where it has to contend with traffic signals. It travels from downtown to the Balboa Park Muni and BART Station via West Portal, 19th Avenue and the Ocean View neighborhood.

The MTA will continue looking into the subway with a $1 million preliminary environmental study and a Caltrans project report required for work on 19th Avenue, which is part of the state highway system.

Should the agency decide to go ahead with the subway, design and construction would follow - when funding is available. The soonest the project could be completed, the feasibility study says, is 2022.
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Competition for funding will be stiff, both within the city and the Bay Area, because of the expense and the number of transportation projects seeking funding. But the study says the subway would compete well because of promised investment from the university, which would contribute $1.8 million to help pay for a new station, and Parkmerced developers, as well as its location on a state highway and in an area targeted for high-density development.

Parkmerced station

Development plans for Parkmerced, south of the San Francisco State campus, call for taking the M line tracks off 19th Avenue and into the development with a station inside the neighborhood complex.

The feasibility study also considered keeping the M line all at ground level and building a shorter subway that would emerge before the university and continue at street level with a tunnel beneath 19th Avenue and Junipero Serra Boulevard.

But it concluded the recommended longer subway would reduce travel times along 19th Avenue on the M line by 35 to 45 percent; provide an extra 30 to 50 feet for wider sidewalks, bike paths and bus loading; provide more pedestrian crossings; and create a new bike and pedestrian link between Parkmerced and Ocean View on the light-rail bridge.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2014, 7:51 PM
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Do you mean all the Doyle Drive construction?
Thanks for the info CharlesCO!
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2014, 12:08 AM
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Not a bad idea, especially considering the clusterfuck that is the intersection of Sloat blvd./Portola dr./Junipero Serra blvd./West Portal ave./St. Francis blvd. And especially since they recently gave the trains signal priority and adjusted the stop light timing...which is good for the trains, but results in red lights for motorists that can seem like they last for hours.

BUT...

I can't help but think that if we're gonna spend our limited money on building subways, it would be better spent on extending the central subway to north beach/fisherman's wharf, or on the first phase of a Geary street subway or something.
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I can't help but think that if we're gonna spend our limited money on building subways, it would be better spent on extending the central subway to north beach/fisherman's wharf, or on the first phase of a Geary street subway or something.
i tend to agree, even based solely on ridersrhip... but i also have to assume this 19th avenue subway extension is an order of magnitude cheaper than the first phase of a geary street subway. or a van ness subway. extending the central subway to north beach/fisherman's wharf has to be the most cost-effective in terms of time, money, and riders for the near-term.

if i recall, muni's subway was originally planned to extend further - at least to st. francis wood - but was then shortened to save enough money to build embarcadero station.
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2014, 4:47 AM
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The Twin Peaks Tunnel opened almost 100 years ago. Embarcadero Station--and the Market Street subway itself--was not yet a glimmer in a planner's eye.
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