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NYguy · #**2901** Posted **May 22, 2008, 4:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ebola

By the way, it is still the tallest office building in the world. Prove me wrong. They say that the complex will be the biggest office complex in the world again. High class office space is proof of power, not a plethora of cheesy-looking res/condo towers. You look at lots of other cities and nearly all of their tallest buildings are all non-office, while in NY, as of now, all of the tallest are office, with the unbuilt MoMA Tower and unbuilt 99 Church and Sunflower Tower as exceptions. Maybe that trend here is ending because of a need for more space. I also doubt that the Freedom Tower will remain the tallest in NY for more than a decade.

Yeah, New York has been strong in the office building market, and it has been building residentials as well, although not as tall as the office buildings. But the office buildings are what made the Manhattan skyline, and it does show a healthy side of the city. Buildings like Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, even the smaller 1 msf towers are making an impact. Silverstein's residential tower, which will be a 900 footer could set of a new race for tallest residential in the city, and its not all that certain the Gehry tower won't top it. One thing the Freedom Tower has going for it is the spire which gives it a little breathing room.

NYguy · #**2902** Posted **May 22, 2008, 4:33 PM**

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05202008...669.htm?page=0

DEVELOPING SITUATION: The Freedom Tower is finally on its way up.

The Port Authority staged a photo-op yesterday to show that steel for the Freedom Tower had poked above street level for the first time.

But two weeks ago, Goldman Sachs managed to top off its new, 43-story headquarters in Battery Park City, visible all the way from Sixth Avenue and Central Park South.

The Goldman project is a lot smaller than the Freedom Tower, but probably more complicated, thanks to its advanced electronics. And while the bank had a three-month head start over the PA, the Freedom Tower is in no danger of topping off soon.

CHAPINM1 · #**2903** Posted **May 22, 2008, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2-TOWERS

by looking at the floors the observatory deck will be lower then the original one looks like 102 vs 107 to bad they couldn't make it the top floor, oh well

It all depends, either way, you can always go up to the roof and possibly climb up the spire, lol...

Anyway, the top of the ring underneath the spire I'm guessing will be at roughly 1,425 to 1,450 feet. JUST A GUESS...

[SP]Neo · #**2904** Posted **May 22, 2008, 8:22 PM**

why was this thread moved from the supertall U/C section?

aluminum · #**2905** Posted **May 22, 2008, 8:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ebola

By the way, it is still the tallest office building in the world.

I think you're right, it will be the tallest(officially) all-office skyscraper in the world. But for some reason, Dac150 was calling it the tallest office in the United States, not the World.

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Originally Posted by Dac150

(We measure by spire height, making the FT the tallest office building in the United States once completed).

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Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

Anyway, the top of the ring underneath the spire I'm guessing will be at roughly 1,425 to 1,450 feet. JUST A GUESS...

This might be a very stupid question,but will that 'ring' house a second observation deck ?

CoolCzech · #**2906** Posted **May 22, 2008, 9:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by aluminum

This might be a very stupid question,but will that 'ring' house a second observation deck ?

Not stupid; just asked & answered a gazillion times. NO.

Scruffy · #**2907** Posted **May 22, 2008, 10:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2-TOWERS

by looking at the floors the observatory deck will be lower then the original one looks like 102 vs 107 to bad they couldn't make it the top floor, oh well

When you are 1300 feet up. A difference of 40-50 feet isn't really that noticeable

Scruffy · #**2908** Posted **May 22, 2008, 10:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ebola

By the way, it is still the tallest office building in the world. Prove me wrong. They say that the complex will be the biggest office complex in the world again. High class office space is proof of power, not a plethora of cheesy-looking res/condo towers. You look at lots of other cities and nearly all of their tallest buildings are all non-office, while in NY, as of now, all of the tallest are office, with the unbuilt MoMA Tower and unbuilt 99 Church and Sunflower Tower as exceptions. Maybe that trend here is ending because of a need for more space. I also doubt that the Freedom Tower will remain the tallest in NY for more than a decade.

Did you say "Sunflower Tower?" What's that? Did I miss a proposal somewhere?

NYguy · #**2909** Posted **May 22, 2008, 11:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

the top of the ring underneath the spire I'm guessing will be at roughly 1,425 to 1,450 feet. JUST A GUESS...

It should be at least 1,400 ft.

NYguy · #**2910** Posted **May 23, 2008, 5:43 AM**

For all concerned, please don't turn this into a city vs. city thread.

timba86 · #**2911** Posted **May 23, 2008, 12:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by RockMont

They can have it. The Freedom Tower is much better. Sad to say, that one in Madrid looks more like one of Liebeskind's contraptions.

Looks like a combination of the Washington Monument and the new FT.

ZZ-II · #**2912** Posted **May 23, 2008, 3:40 PM**

i really like the design of the FT, although it has absolutely nothing special.

NYguy · #**2913** Posted **May 23, 2008, 4:22 PM**

Turning this thread into a city vs. city or Freedom Tower vs. Twin Tower thread won't be tolerated. So please don't waste your time or ours posting such.

NYC4Life · #**2914** Posted **May 23, 2008, 7:10 PM**

From: http://ny1.com

Plans are underway to shore up security for the new developments at the World Trade Center site.

The Port Authority has approved $5 million in funding to look at options for a state-of-the-art security center and emergency radio system at the site.

First responders say they were hampered during the September 11th attacks by radios that didn't work, making it impossible to communicate with police and firefighters inside the Twin Towers.

The new system would open up 20 radio frequencies during an emergency. Every building on the site would have a designated security center.

Planners are still deciding where to locate the main command center which would serve five skyscrapers, the September 11th memorial and the World Trade Center transit hub.

The PA is also spending millions on security upgrades at LaGuardia and Newark Airports.

The agency authorized $28 million to install more vehicle barriers in front of LaGuardia's Central Terminal and Newark's Terminal B.

The agency also announced a $400 million federal grant that pay for upgrades to baggage conveyer belt systems to integrate checked baggage screening. In some locations now, passengers have to carry their luggage to a screener after it's tagged.

The agency is also moving ahead with pre-construction work for a mega terminal at JFK. The PA says $20 million will be spent on planning for the terminal to replace Delta Airlines' Terminals 2 and 3.

America 117 · #**2915** Posted **May 23, 2008, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by timba86

Looks like a combination of the Washington Monument and the new FT.

yay it does

America 117 · #**2916** Posted **May 23, 2008, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech

Not stupid; just asked & answered a gazillion times. NO.

then why did they build that ring?

stewartrama · #**2917** Posted **May 23, 2008, 8:02 PM**

wait-sorry for asking- but the ring will be the support buttress holding the spire up, right? Will people be allowed onto it?

CHAPINM1 · #**2918** Posted **May 23, 2008, 8:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by stewartrama

wait-sorry for asking- but the ring will be the support buttress holding the spire up, right? Will people be allowed onto it?

Nope, it's for communication/transmmission purposes. That would be sweet if it were used as a 2nd observatory though.

timba86 · #**2919** Posted **May 23, 2008, 8:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYC4Life

From: http://ny1.com

Plans are underway to shore up security for the new developments at the World Trade Center site.

The Port Authority has approved $5 million in funding to look at options for a state-of-the-art security center and emergency radio system at the site.

First responders say they were hampered during the September 11th attacks by radios that didn't work, making it impossible to communicate with police and firefighters inside the Twin Towers.

The new system would open up 20 radio frequencies during an emergency. Every building on the site would have a designated security center.

Planners are still deciding where to locate the main command center which would serve five skyscrapers, the September 11th memorial and the World Trade Center transit hub.

The PA is also spending millions on security upgrades at LaGuardia and Newark Airports.

The agency authorized $28 million to install more vehicle barriers in front of LaGuardia's Central Terminal and Newark's Terminal B.

The agency also announced a $400 million federal grant that pay for upgrades to baggage conveyer belt systems to integrate checked baggage screening. In some locations now, passengers have to carry their luggage to a screener after it's tagged.

The agency is also moving ahead with pre-construction work for a mega terminal at JFK. The PA says $20 million will be spent on planning for the terminal to replace Delta Airlines' Terminals 2 and 3.

Security is going to be so intense, that whenever someone breathes to hard he will be flagged.

America 117 · #**2920** Posted **May 24, 2008, 12:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

Nope, it's for communication/transmmission purposes. That would be sweet if it were used as a 2nd observatory though.

but there is an outdoor observation deck right?