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Old Posted Aug 21, 2020, 2:55 PM
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^^Unfortunately that's kind of what's happening here in the US. The US used to be a law&order type country (with problems in the system, of course), but as of late laws have become lax and many people are deciding they don't actually mean anything anymore.

I personally think this started with illegal immigration becoming so polarized. Many people support it, some don't, but nowadays the justice side of things has become more important than organization and law to a huge swath of the population. I remember I posted about this some time ago and how it was a slippery slope- now look where we are.

I guarantee if Biden wins the situation will continue to sprial downward and it will be handled even more pathetically than Trump has handled this.

I have a strong feeling the US has just embarked on a new journey of perpetually rising crime rates, similar to what happened in the 70s, 80s and 90s.
Canada does not have lower violent crime rates because they're tougher on crime. They have affordable access to basic needs like education and healthcare and a more generous social safety net.

Uneducated, desperate people drive violent crime numbers, and the US has the most of that cohort than any other 1st world country--plus lots of guns. Pretty potent mix.
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Canada does not have lower violent crime rates because they're tougher on crime. They have affordable access to basic needs like education and healthcare and a more generous social safety net.

Uneducated, desperate people drive violent crime numbers, and the US has the most of that cohort than any other 1st world country--plus lots of guns. Pretty potent mix.
This is where we started out with our lower crime rates, but in the recent past in some Canadian cities things have definitely been soft(er) on the crime that is out there.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2020, 3:44 PM
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This is where we started out with our lower crime rates, but in the recent past in some Canadian cities things have definitely been soft(er) on the crime that is out there.
So that proves the point though, Canada is softer on crime yet still has insanely low violent crime rates compared the US. American and Canadian welfare states are set up with completely different priorities, and in Canada a high tide lifts all boats.
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Agree with everything you said except for the highlighted.

There are lots of heads in the sand in many Canadian cities when it comes to violent crime, even when it comes to murders and shootings.

What is considered the new normal for crime today would have been considered abhorrent (actually like saying the earth is flat) just a few decades ago.

Just because it's not as a bad as in the U.S. doesn't mean there isn't lots of room for crime to go up significantly here due to laxity, a "don't worry be happy" attitude, and other factors.

If I had to bet, that's what I'd put my money on.
Certainly in terms of homicides, I don't see the evidence in support of your position, at least in Toronto.



Keep in mind you need to remove the anomaly of the van attack in the 2018 number.

Note that Toronto is currently on pace for 64 homicides this year.

Also that Toronto's population has risen by 500,000 since 2007.

So the homicide rate per is actually not far off historic lows.

Its 2.14 per 100,000 this year.

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To be fair, shootings are up substantially this year, though fortunately most are misses or less serious injuries.

Just took a look at the Violent Crime Severity Index for Toronto, from 2014-2018

Percent change in violent crime severity index 8
-4.82, 2.45, 7.58, -1.27, 4.72

Those are the year over year increases/decreases. It does show a moderate uptick over that 5 year window.
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One could more easily make the argument that coronavirus is in fact to blame. Record unemployment and job loss (just today we learned we've now had 20 consecutive weeks with over 1,000,000 new jobless claims), schools closed, who knows how many social outreach/nonprofits working with barebones crews and limited resources...

I don't even know how George Floyd plays into it other than in some strange partisan fantasy.



Who is naive? Certainly the people blaming protests in June for rising homicides in May while ignoring the the cold hard facts of the worst economic crisis in the past 100 years... The protests are extremely triggering for certain segments of the country and fits a convenient narrative to blame them for all of society's current ills but it definitely doesn't stand up to any sort of rigorous logic.
No, I don't think corona is the main driver. First, yes crime was slightly up when corona hit. That makes sense. However, most people who lost their jobs received an extra 2,400 a month plus their regular unemployment. So many actually made MORE money having lost their jobs.

The massive spikes happened after BLM started protesting, there is no way you can argue otherwise.
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I don't think you actually understand why people are upset.
No, I don't think many understand how much bs cops go through.

I just saw a video out of Chicago that showed people yelling at cops for pinning a guy down with like 4 police officers. The man was seen by police hitting someone with his car and running away. He ditched the vehicle and then finally fell after running away on foot. The man was resisting to the last minute until the overwelming numbers of cops got him down and arrested.

But the people hanging around were complaining the whole time: GET OFF HIM, STOP THAT BULLSHIT, THIS IS WRONG!

No, the people in the neighborhoods who support criminals are wrong. The white liberals who sit at home and saying POLICE ARE RACIST are wrong.

Not one ultra-liberal person has answered this question:

How many unarmed black men have CPD killed in the last decade?



It's never about facts, its about emotional narratives.
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Canada does not have lower violent crime rates because they're tougher on crime. They have affordable access to basic needs like education and healthcare and a more generous social safety net.

Uneducated, desperate people drive violent crime numbers, and the US has the most of that cohort than any other 1st world country--plus lots of guns. Pretty potent mix.
This may be an inconvenient assessment for some here, but yeah, that's pretty much the way I feel about it. Left to fend for themselves, people will become hardened by their situation.

One day you're making a killing on the stock exchange and eating rich white girls, the next week you're stuffing chicken into a stolen Santa Claus suit.

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2020 Austin Metro Murders

| Austin 30 | Travis Co. 36 | Bastrop Co. 1 | Caldwell Co. 2 | Hays Co. 1 | Williamson Co. 4 | Metro 44 |

Causes metrowide
Shooting - 32
Stabbing - 5
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 1
Vehicular homicide - 0
Blunt force trauma - 1
Sharp force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 6
Domestic terrorism - 0

Austin totals
Downtown - 1
Central Austin - 1
East Austin - 9
North Austin - 3
Northeast Austin - 6
Northwest Austin - 0
South Austin - 6
Southeast Austin - 3
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 1

Victims
Male - 33
Female - 9
Unlisted - 1

| Jan 6 | Feb 6 | Mar 9 | Apr 4 | May 4 | Jun 9 | Jul 5 | Aug 2 | Sep 0 | Oct 0 | Nov 0 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 5 | Tue 9 | Wed 4 | Thur 5 | Fri 4 | Sat 9 | Sun 8 |

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Murder cases
Code:
1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/4-people-stabbed-in-attack-on-south-congress/?fbclid=IwAR30os7QA-0IUpsC8RxheTAXJFZLOl-57LO51A44-3OB4uD2-0v2DnSCON0 - 1/3 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/one-injured-in-east-austin-shooting/ - 1/11 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-looking-for-suspect-in-east-austin-stabbing/?fbclid=IwAR2f4m_Is2jKFsQRwsEiJwMUyAlxUREKRTiWk0utxcyHTrQzeQjJcfVg0f8 - 1/17 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-5-0 - 1/19 - Austin blunt force trauma

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local-news/atcems-reporting-to-possible-east-austin-shooting-someone-possibly-dead/ - 1/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-4-0 - 1/23 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200202/2-dead-after-pflugerville-shooting-saturday-night-police-say?template=ampart - 2/1 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-6-0 - 2/17 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-9-0 - 2/21 - Austin shooting

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-identify-third-suspect-in-northeast-austin-apartment-shooting/ - 2/25 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200305/police-arrest-made-in-georgetown-missing-man-case?template=ampart - 2/25 - Georgetown unlisted cause

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/williamson-county/round-rock-teen-arrested-in-connection-with-fatal-shooting-of-17-year-old/ - 3/3 - Round Rock shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homicide-investigation-opened-after-male-victim-shot-dead-in-south-austin/ - 3/13 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/teen-shot-and-dropped-off-at-taylor-hospital-declared-dead-on-arrival-suspect-in-custody/ - 3/21 - Taylor shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-11-0 - 3/22 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200325/man-dies-from-wounds-after-cedar-park-shooting-sunday?template=ampart - 3/25 - Cedar Park shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-homicide-in-north-austin/ - 3/26 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-13-0 - 3/27 - Austin body found with trauma

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200329/overnight-man-killed-woman-injured-in-north-austin-shooting - 3/29 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/authorities-investigating-report-of-shots-fired-in-pflugerville/ - 3/31 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-15-0 - 4/13 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200427/suspect-in-manchaca-womans-death-also-found-dead-authorities-say?template=ampart - 4/16 - Manchaca shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/san-marcos-police-urge-shelter-in-place-as-they-respond-to-incident/ - 4/18 - San Marcos shooting

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/downtown-austin-street-fight-turns-fatal/269-02712655-7a03-46a8-8a3f-2320a0966765 - 4/18 - Austin beating

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200520/update-suspect-in-custody-after-fatal-pflugerville-shooting?template=ampart - 5/19 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/bastrop-county/bastrop-county-sheriffs-office-investigating-homicide-outside-del-valle-grocery-store/ - 5/24 - Del Valle shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/woman-pronounced-dead-at-scene-of-shooting-in-pflugerville/ - 5/26 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/man-dead-in-shooting-at-east-austin-apartment-complex/ - 5/28 - Austin shooting

2 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/caldwell-county-community-heartbroken-shooting-victims-luling-cousins/269-fe416567-31dc-4d4c-b5be-2a4954eb40db?fbclid=IwAR1turRK-yslvb0e8a9cAuoOU0y6jCoSzkFJGbWjKCsKDchIwgkqS4Ue4es - 6/14 - Luling shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200620/austin-police-respond-to-two-homicides-within-hours-of-each-other?template=ampart - 6/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200620/austin-police-respond-to-two-homicides-within-hours-of-each-other?template=ampart - 6/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200701/ice-cream-vendor-shot-in-north-austin-robbery-has-died-police-say?template=ampart - 6/23 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200806/2-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-missing-round-rock-man-police-say?template=ampart - 6/24 - Body found - Travis County

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspect-arrested-in-connection-with-east-austin-homicide/ - 6/24 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-investigating-homicide-after-person-shot-dead-in-east-austin/ - 6/28 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-23-0 - 7/8 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/homcide-investigation-southeast-austin-wickersham/269-24ca5a01-c656-4a86-913d-24c46395ff19?fbclid=IwAR0YyjMxlhLLtz3hO2stCxQ4E9EdAMKcR37zX8-XQc2-12294WCmIWHaKag - 7/13 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-25-0 - 7/16 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-26-0 - 7/19 - Austin shooting 

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-27-1 - 7/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-29-0 - 8/18 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-one-person-shot-in-east-austin/ - 8/22 - Austin shooting
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Pending cases

Code:
1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-body-found-near-taco-shack-in-northwest-austin/ - 2/29 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200311/manrsquos-body-found-on-conveyor-belt-at-recycling-plant-in-travis-county?template=ampart - 3/11 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/body-found-outside-texas-workforce-commission/ - 4/6 - Austin body found

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200418/body-found-behind-h-e-b-store-in-round-rock-police-say?template=ampart - 4/18 - Round Rock - body found

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/manchaca-body-found-homicide-investigation-janice-hughes/269-c1872dc9-e085-4752-a759-473ebc9ad239?fbclid=IwAR2Bs8NV2YaYn9T0LgjH5JoS2-g1_l7KB4e935ziMKvSTUOnI80oMgHh1Xs - 4/16 - Manchaca - body found

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200521/just-in-body-found-near-homeless-camp-in-northeastern-travis-county-officials-say?template=ampart - 5/21 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-police-investigating-death-in-southeast-austin-neighborhood/?fbclid=IwAR1y85EHiYB1w1f0ooGd-vsfM0d1Kw5VE9kkeEsBENTdG-GTUbk4zInyf8U - 826 - Austin suspicious death
Austin area population

City: 964,254 (July 1, 2018 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,273,954 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,227,083 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

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Old Posted Aug 23, 2020, 6:36 AM
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No, I don't think many understand how much bs cops go through.

I just saw a video out of Chicago that showed people yelling at cops for pinning a guy down with like 4 police officers. The man was seen by police hitting someone with his car and running away. He ditched the vehicle and then finally fell after running away on foot. The man was resisting to the last minute until the overwelming numbers of cops got him down and arrested.

But the people hanging around were complaining the whole time: GET OFF HIM, STOP THAT BULLSHIT, THIS IS WRONG!

No, the people in the neighborhoods who support criminals are wrong. The white liberals who sit at home and saying POLICE ARE RACIST are wrong.

Not one ultra-liberal person has answered this question:

How many unarmed black men have CPD killed in the last decade?



It's never about facts, its about emotional narratives.
Even a white racist should be disturbed by the videos of Toronto Raptors President Masai Ujiri being shoved at and sworn at by that police officer in Oakland, and by the attempts of that police officer and the police department thereafter to cast him as the aggressor and charge him for assault and sue him for injuries and damages.

Masai Ujiri is a famous millionaire, in an packed arena, surrounded by thousands of people and cameras everywhere, and this still happens to him. The police department could stood for justice and held one of their own accountable, they could have stood for FACTS, but instead they stood for injustice and lies and actually tried to help the officer in his efforts to attack and exploit Ujiri.

For people in the police or courts or government or any other position of authority to not only abuse their powers like that but also help each other abuse their powers like that is dangerous to the very foundations and institutions of the country. To equate such actions to people yelling at police is just fucking ridiculous. If the police did not so publicly and fervently support corruption and injustice, maybe people would not be so angry at them, don't you think?

To me, that is the real root of the problem. I don't give a shit about "Black Lives Matter". Any racial injustice just the symptom. The real root of the problem is the people in positions of authority not being held accountable for their actions, and actively protecting each other from being held accountable, and that can lead to injustices of all kinds.

That's the whole problem with the so-called United States of America. As a country, you can never see the value of restraint, you can only see the value of power. You cannot see the root of anything, you can only see the surface. You cannot see the bigger picture, you can only think in terms of the individual. You cannot see the connections or grey areas, you can only see in terms of the divisions and boundaries, white vs. black, liberal vs. conservative, protesters as extremists (e.g. "ultra-liberals"). That's why 348 people were murdered in Baltimore last year, why only 10,000 people use the Oklahoma City area's transit system each weekday last year, why 170,000 people have died from coronavirus, why Donald Trump is your president.
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^^^ I agree with this. Very well said.
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Certainly in terms of homicides, I don't see the evidence in support of your position, at least in Toronto.



Keep in mind you need to remove the anomaly of the van attack in the 2018 number.

Note that Toronto is currently on pace for 64 homicides this year.

Also that Toronto's population has risen by 500,000 since 2007.

So the homicide rate per is actually not far off historic lows.

Its 2.14 per 100,000 this year.

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To be fair, shootings are up substantially this year, though fortunately most are misses or less serious injuries.

Just took a look at the Violent Crime Severity Index for Toronto, from 2014-2018

Percent change in violent crime severity index 8
-4.82, 2.45, 7.58, -1.27, 4.72

Those are the year over year increases/decreases. It does show a moderate uptick over that 5 year window.
So would you say that most people would agree that Toronto has gotten safer or less safe of late? Or that if they think it's less safe, it's only due to media hysteria? (We could say the same about Ottawa - people there think it's considerably less safe, but the chattering classes are in denial.)

BTW, lots of cities have gotten bigger and violent crime has actually gone down.
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So would you say that most people would agree that Toronto has gotten safer or less safe of late? Or that if they think it's less safe, it's only due to media hysteria? (We could say the same about Ottawa - people there think it's considerably less safe, but the chattering classes are in denial.)

BTW, lots of cities have gotten bigger and violent crime has actually gone down.
Since the post you referenced, I actually looked up Toronto's Major Crime Index.

https://data.torontopolice.on.ca/pag...ime-indicators

It shows most categories of offense are down year over year by a double-digit percentage, and compare as roughly similar to stats over the last 5 years.

So in the shorter term I would say Toronto is even to slightly safer over all.

Obviously, that varies by neighbourhood; and some have more problems than others.

If we compared over a longer period, I truly would say (and the evidence would support) that Toronto was far less safe when I was growing up in the 80s.

I think people always tend to look back w/ rose-coloured glasses; and have any fresh tragedies or news in their minds, especially if one hits close to home.

I would love it if Toronto were even safer. Montreal has lower murder numbers; Japan achieves higher over all public safety. Still, Toronto and Montreal are both among the safest large cities on the planet, hard to argue w/that.

Clearly shootings are an issue; and one that requires both short-term intervention (get the guns and the frequent/reckless shooters off the street).

As well as longer term action (social determinants of health) so that we get fewer violent criminals in the next generation.
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London is at 81 as of 22/8.

One remarkable note is that there has only been 10 total fatal shootings.

2009: 131
2010: 124
2011: 119
2012: 105
2013: 107
2014: 94
2015: 122
2016: 111
2017: 118
2018: 132
2019: 149
2020: 81 (so far)
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That last line is the most shocking, to me.

No self-righteous smugness, just shock.

As a Toronto resident.

Minneapolis is just shy of 500,000 people, Toronto is 3,000,000

So if you scaled that that number, Minneapolis 'modern low', would be 108 homicides which is notably higher than Toronto's worst year ever.

Which included a van attack that killed 10 or 11.

I find it hard to wrap my head around that, let alone a scale homicide total for the current year (49, x 6) would give you 295 homicides.

I honestly think you'd see the military called out if that happened here, and door to door searches for guns.

To realize there are other U.S. cities where the problems are that much worse......
I fully agree with you that murder rates in US cities are way too high and I wish our country could adopt more reasonable gun control laws. However, I want to clarify that scaling 18 murders by 6 to equate Mpls to Toronto results in a distorted figure. Minneapolis comprises about 12.0% of total metro population (call it 430,000 divided by 3.6 million), whereas Toronto is a much higher % of it's metro population. The number of murders elsewhere in the Twin Cities is drastically lower. In 2018, the metro Twin Cities had 70 murders for 3.6 million persons (per FBI Uniform Crime report), equal to a 1.9 murders per 100,000 persons (The US national rate by the way was 4.7 per 100,000).
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In 2018, the metro Twin Cities had 70 murders for 3.6 million persons (per FBI Uniform Crime report).
Looks like Minneapolis (50 murders) and St. Paul (at least 21 murders) alone exceed that total so far this year.
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Looks like Minneapolis (50 murders) and St. Paul (at least 21 murders) alone exceed that total so far this year.
Yes, this year has been terrible. The Mpls City Council didn’t help things by their call to defund the police IMO. Reform, significantly reform? Absolutely, but defund? That’s crazy talk imo.
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Old Posted Aug 26, 2020, 1:21 AM
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This is how fucking retarded the Republican-dominated Missouri legislature is:

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The House also approved legislation allowing people to give firearms to children without their parents’ permission.
https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...424f94a6c.html

Let that sink in. This is what St. Louis and Kansas City are up against.

Fuck this piece-of-shit gun-humping car-humping country.
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Old Posted Aug 28, 2020, 5:40 PM
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I'll update later.

60 hurricane evacuees fight in downtown Austin, one woman shot and killed
https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/apd-...wntown-austin/

Deputies: Man, 2 children found dead outside Hays County home
https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/depu...n-marcos-home/

Austin police investigating death in south Austin
https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/aust...-south-austin/
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Old Posted Sep 11, 2020, 6:21 AM
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2020 Austin Metro Murders

| Austin 34 | Travis Co. 40 | Bastrop Co. 1 | Caldwell Co. 2 | Hays Co. 4 | Williamson Co. 4 | Metro 51 |

Causes metrowide
Shooting - 38
Stabbing - 5
Strangled - 0
Suffocation - 0
Throwing (of child) - 0
Beating - 1
Vehicular homicide - 0
Blunt force trauma - 1
Sharp force trauma - 0
Unlisted cause - 7
Domestic terrorism - 0

Austin totals
Downtown - 2
Central Austin - 1
East Austin - 9
North Austin - 3
Northeast Austin - 6
Northwest Austin - 0
South Austin - 7
Southeast Austin - 5
Southwest Austin - 0
West Austin - 1

Victims
Male - 36
Female - 11
Unlisted - 3

| Jan 6 | Feb 6 | Mar 9 | Apr 4 | May 5 | Jun 9 | Jul 5 | Aug 6 | Sep 2 | Oct 0 | Nov 0 | Dec 0 |

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| Mon 5 | Tue 9 | Wed 6 | Thur 8 | Fri 5 | Sat 10 | Sun 8 |

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Murder cases
Code:
1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/4-people-stabbed-in-attack-on-south-congress/?fbclid=IwAR30os7QA-0IUpsC8RxheTAXJFZLOl-57LO51A44-3OB4uD2-0v2DnSCON0 - 1/3 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/one-injured-in-east-austin-shooting/ - 1/11 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-looking-for-suspect-in-east-austin-stabbing/?fbclid=IwAR2f4m_Is2jKFsQRwsEiJwMUyAlxUREKRTiWk0utxcyHTrQzeQjJcfVg0f8 - 1/17 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-5-0 - 1/19 - Austin blunt force trauma

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local-news/atcems-reporting-to-possible-east-austin-shooting-someone-possibly-dead/ - 1/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-4-0 - 1/23 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200202/2-dead-after-pflugerville-shooting-saturday-night-police-say?template=ampart - 2/1 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-6-0 - 2/17 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-9-0 - 2/21 - Austin shooting

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-identify-third-suspect-in-northeast-austin-apartment-shooting/ - 2/25 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200305/police-arrest-made-in-georgetown-missing-man-case?template=ampart - 2/25 - Georgetown unlisted cause

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/williamson-county/round-rock-teen-arrested-in-connection-with-fatal-shooting-of-17-year-old/ - 3/3 - Round Rock shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/homicide-investigation-opened-after-male-victim-shot-dead-in-south-austin/ - 3/13 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/teen-shot-and-dropped-off-at-taylor-hospital-declared-dead-on-arrival-suspect-in-custody/ - 3/21 - Taylor shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-11-0 - 3/22 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200325/man-dies-from-wounds-after-cedar-park-shooting-sunday?template=ampart - 3/25 - Cedar Park shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-homicide-in-north-austin/ - 3/26 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-13-0 - 3/27 - Austin body found with trauma

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200329/overnight-man-killed-woman-injured-in-north-austin-shooting - 3/29 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/authorities-investigating-report-of-shots-fired-in-pflugerville/ - 3/31 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-15-0 - 4/13 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200427/suspect-in-manchaca-womans-death-also-found-dead-authorities-say?template=ampart - 4/16 - Manchaca shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/hays/san-marcos-police-urge-shelter-in-place-as-they-respond-to-incident/ - 4/18 - San Marcos shooting

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/downtown-austin-street-fight-turns-fatal/269-02712655-7a03-46a8-8a3f-2320a0966765 - 4/18 - Austin beating

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200520/update-suspect-in-custody-after-fatal-pflugerville-shooting?template=ampart - 5/19 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/bastrop-county/bastrop-county-sheriffs-office-investigating-homicide-outside-del-valle-grocery-store/ - 5/24 - Del Valle shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/travis-county/woman-pronounced-dead-at-scene-of-shooting-in-pflugerville/ - 5/26 - Pflugerville shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/man-dead-in-shooting-at-east-austin-apartment-complex/ - 5/28 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200917/man-charged-in-fatal-san-marcos-shooting-turns-himself-in-officials-say?template=ampart - 5/30 - San Marcos shooting

2 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/crime/caldwell-county-community-heartbroken-shooting-victims-luling-cousins/269-fe416567-31dc-4d4c-b5be-2a4954eb40db?fbclid=IwAR1turRK-yslvb0e8a9cAuoOU0y6jCoSzkFJGbWjKCsKDchIwgkqS4Ue4es - 6/14 - Luling shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200620/austin-police-respond-to-two-homicides-within-hours-of-each-other?template=ampart - 6/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200620/austin-police-respond-to-two-homicides-within-hours-of-each-other?template=ampart - 6/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200701/ice-cream-vendor-shot-in-north-austin-robbery-has-died-police-say?template=ampart - 6/23 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200806/2-arrested-in-connection-with-death-of-missing-round-rock-man-police-say?template=ampart - 6/24 - Body found - Travis County

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/suspect-arrested-in-connection-with-east-austin-homicide/ - 6/24 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-investigating-homicide-after-person-shot-dead-in-east-austin/ - 6/28 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-23-0 - 7/8 - Austin stabbing

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/homcide-investigation-southeast-austin-wickersham/269-24ca5a01-c656-4a86-913d-24c46395ff19?fbclid=IwAR0YyjMxlhLLtz3hO2stCxQ4E9EdAMKcR37zX8-XQc2-12294WCmIWHaKag - 7/13 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-25-0 - 7/16 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-26-0 - 7/19 - Austin shooting 

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-27-1 - 7/20 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-29-0 - 8/18 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/police-one-person-shot-in-east-austin/ - 8/22 - Austin shooting

1 dead - http://www.austintexas.gov/news/homicide-33-0 - 8/26 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/apd-investigating-fatal-shooting-in-downtown-austin/ - 8/27 - Austin shooting

2 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/deputies-man-2-children-found-dead-outside-san-marcos-home/ - 8/27 - Hays County shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/crime/austin-police-investigating-death-in-south-austin/ - 9/4 - Austin shooting

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/apd-investigating-suspicious-death-in-south-austin-providing-more-details-at-9-a-m-briefing/ - 9/16 - Austin shooting
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Pending cases

Code:
1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-investigating-body-found-near-taco-shack-in-northwest-austin/ - 2/29 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200311/manrsquos-body-found-on-conveyor-belt-at-recycling-plant-in-travis-county?template=ampart - 3/11 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/body-found-outside-texas-workforce-commission/ - 4/6 - Austin body found

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200418/body-found-behind-h-e-b-store-in-round-rock-police-say?template=ampart - 4/18 - Round Rock - body found

1 dead - https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/manchaca-body-found-homicide-investigation-janice-hughes/269-c1872dc9-e085-4752-a759-473ebc9ad239?fbclid=IwAR2Bs8NV2YaYn9T0LgjH5JoS2-g1_l7KB4e935ziMKvSTUOnI80oMgHh1Xs - 4/16 - Manchaca - body found

1 dead - https://www.statesman.com/news/20200521/just-in-body-found-near-homeless-camp-in-northeastern-travis-county-officials-say?template=ampart - 5/21 - body found - Austin

1 dead - https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/austin-police-investigating-death-in-southeast-austin-neighborhood/?fbclid=IwAR1y85EHiYB1w1f0ooGd-vsfM0d1Kw5VE9kkeEsBENTdG-GTUbk4zInyf8U - 826 - Austin suspicious death
Austin area population

City: 964,254 (July 1, 2018 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Travis County: 1,273,954 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau
Metro: 2,227,083 (July 1, 2019 estimate) - source: US Census Bureau

Area - City: 297 square miles (2010) - US Census Bureau
Area - Metro: 4,285 square miles - Wikipedia
Area - Travis County: 1,023 square miles - Wikipedia

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