The 21 most influential cities in the world - Page 2

ThePhun1 · #21 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 2:07 AM**

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Originally Posted by YSL

A.T. Kearney's annual Global Cities Report, 2018

https://www.atkearney.com/2018-globa...alGlobalCities

1. New York
2. London
3. Paris
4. Tokyo
5. Hong Kong
6. Los Angeles
7. Singapore
8. Beijing
9. Chicago
10. Brussels
11. Washington, DC
12. Seoul
13. Madrid
14. Moscow
15. Sydney
16. Berlin
17. Melbourne
18. Toronto
19. Shanghai
20. San Francisco
21. Vienna

Washington has to be way, way higher. It's only the capital of what is still the most influential country in the world.

Crawford · #22 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 11:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by cabasse

frankfurt? interesting. i get the other ones.

Frankfurt, while an utter bore, is really the population and wealth center of Germany, the world's fourth largest economy. The city itself is small but dominates Germany's main economic/population corridor.

It's also the most important financial center and transportation crossroads on the Continent.

Yeah, Berlin is the capital, but half the German federal agencies are in other cities. Defense is in Bonn, Supreme Court in Karlsruhe, etc. There are probably as many federal agencies within 90 minutes of Frankfurt as in Berlin.

10023 · #23 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 1:14 PM**

^ Frankfurt is the financial center but it’s not nearly as dominant as you suggest economically. Munich, Hamburg, Düsseldorf, even Stuttgart share economic power and influence in Germany.

Crawford · #24 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 1:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by 10023

^ Frankfurt is the financial center but it’s not nearly as dominant as you suggest economically. Munich, Hamburg, Düsseldorf, even Stuttgart share economic power and influence in Germany.

I agree, but Stuttgart and Düsseldorf are part of the same population/economic corridor, alongside Frankfurt (and Cologne, Mannheim-Heidelberg and Ruhr).

Germany is, of course, very decentralized, but I would say Frankfurt, overall, is most influential, mostly because it sits at the center of Germany and Western Europe.

isaidso · #25 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 3:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

Both Sydney and Melbourne ahead of any Canadian city? Even one may make sense, but two?

Of course individual positions are arbitrary, but those two seem like outliers.

Neither make sense. Australia is viewed as exotic/the other side of the world (in north America). Sometimes I feel like they (or Sydney/Melbourne) get thrown in just so that each region of the world gets representation. Sort of like how Hollywood used to insert a token Black person into the plot because they felt they had to.

If it's a British study, Australia get thrown in because they're treated like a sunny extension of their own country. You'd think Australia was a super power the way the British go on about it.

The other that jumped out at me was that Chicago based AT Kearney has Chicago (9th) and Toronto (18th). Wait what? I stopped taking any of these surveys seriously long ago. You'll get an entirely different list depending on what criteria one uses and/or who you ask.

MolsonExport · #26 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Crawford

Singapore, Brussels, Berlin, Vienna and the Aussie cities are ranked way too high.

SF and Shanghai are ranked way too low.

Osaka, Frankfurt, Rome, Sao Paulo, Mexico City and Mumbai should probably be on the list.

agreed.

Not sure why there would be two Oz cities, without Osaka, Mexico City, Sao Paolo, and Mumbai...and Rome/Frankfurt. And Istanbul.

Vienna is one of my favorite cities, but how is it globally influential nowadays?

JManc · #27 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:21 PM**

This list is crap..Milton Keynes and Yonkers are not on it anywhere..

dubu · #28 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:33 PM**

sf is great but one west coast city and one east coast city. glad chicago is in there.

la, ny and chicago is fine for the us. even though those cities have problems.

MolsonExport · #29 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:42 PM**

err....LA is also there.

dubu · #30 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

err....LA is also there.

i added to it because i didnt make it that clear

muertecaza · #31 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:48 PM**

"Influential" probably isn't the best headline. As some noted, it usually connotes cultural influence. A less snappy but more descriptive headline might be "an aggregation of factors businesses might consider when considering relocation and/or expansion into global cities."

For those questioning the inclusion of Australian cities, they both appear to have ranked well in the future outlook of their "Environmental Performance"; and Melbourne ranks well in its "International Student Population," and well as first overall in future personal well-being.

Here are the criteria with the highest scorers for the lazy:

JManc · #32 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 4:59 PM**

Best pizza and most World Series wins...New York.

maru2501 · #33 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:22 PM**

I want less access to TV news..

dave8721 · #34 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:22 PM**

Moscow top for museums? I would think London (or Paris/NY/DC) but maybe that is just my Western Euro/US-centric bias.

dimondpark · #35 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by mhays

This isn't "most influential"...it's most influential within a certain set of business parameters. Nothing about culture or government.

Even on the business side, it's bizarre to have two Australian cities above San Francisco.

That's because they really arent.

Here's the actual headline from the press release from AT Kearney, the organization that creates this ranking:

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New York and San Francisco Earn Top Spots in A.T. Kearney's 2018 Global Cities Report

A.T. Kearney
May 29, 2018, 01:11 ET

CHICAGO, May 29, 2018 /PRNewswire/ -- New York and San Francisco have retained their status as the world's most competitive and influential cities, according to the newly released Global Cities 2018 report from A.T. Kearney. This year's report combines the Global Cities Index and Global Cities Outlook to help multinational businesses assess the best places for expansion, investment, and recruiting new talent. The Index and Outlook studies complement one another and provide a look into both the current performance of the world's top cities and the potential of upcoming urban powerhouses. The report also highlights the success of China's super cities, which are increasingly drawing talent and corporate investment from around the globe...

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...300655042.html

AT Kearney's 18 Global Elite Cities:

JManc · #36 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:40 PM**

Yeah but what kinda pizza can you get in San Francisco?

sopas ej · #37 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:43 PM**

edale · #38 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:44 PM**

The constant discussion of pizza on this forum is really fucking stupid.

dimondpark · #39 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:45 PM**

Furthermore the omission of LA from a global elite ranking calls into question the veracity of that ranking.

Hell, the city has a trillion dollar economy.

JManc · #40 Posted **Jun 5, 2018, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by edale

The constant discussion of pizza on this forum is really fucking stupid.

Oh hai...you must be new here!