50 Largest Cities: Indy, Omaha & Sac have fastest selling homes in the US, Oct 2020

[dimondpark]

Very impressed by both midwest cities. Sacramento's growth is due to Bay Area residents continuing their decades long invasion of the state capital in search of much less expensive housing. Anyhow this data from Redfin's market insight page for each city.

THIS IS BY CITY PROPER.

50 Largest US Cities by Homes for Sale
Average Days on Market..City, State..(Median Sale Price)
OCT 2020
135 New York, NY($626,000)
66 Miami, FL($365,000)
47 Milwaukee, WI($165,000)
42 Los Angeles, CA($850,000)
40 Las Vegas, NV($310,000)
41 Nashville, TN($343,000)
41 Tucson, AZ($257,000)
39 Charlotte, NC($290,000)
39 Raleigh, NC($315,000)
38 Jacksonville, FL($229,995)
38 Long Beach, CA($720,000)
37 Austin, TX($455,000)
37 Detroit, MI($60,000)
37 Philadelphia, PA($242,025)
36 Dallas, TX($379,500)
33 New Orleans, LA($325,000)
32 Atlanta, GA($348,450)
32 Memphis, TN($186,000)
32 Phoenix, AZ($325,000)
31 Baltimore, MD($195,000)
29 San Antonio, TX($240,000)
28 UNITED STATES AVERAGE($335,454)
28 El Paso, TX($187,950)
28 Houston, TX($250,000)
28 San Francisco, CA($1,407,000)
25 Fort Worth, TX($260,000)
25 Washington, DC($680,000)
24 Virginia Beach, VA($293,000)
23 Boston, MA($699,000)
22 Arlington, TX($242,750)
22 Chicago, IL($320,000)
21 Colorado Springs, CO($357,000)
21 Louisville, KY($215,000)
20 San Jose, CA($1,101,000)
17 Tampa, FL($275,000)
16 Minneapolis, MN($309,000)
15 Albuquerque, NM($250,000)
15 Kansas City, MO($220,000)
15 Tulsa, OK($194,834)
14 San Diego, CA($682,750)
13 Oakland, CA($867,500)
12 Oklahoma City, OK($215,000)
10 Denver, CO($507,000)
10 Portland, OR($499,000)
9 Fresno, CA($320,000)
9 Seattle, WA($747,000)
8 Sacramento, CA($395,000)
7 Omaha, NE($217,000)
6 Indianapolis, IN($185,000)

https://www.redfin.com/us-housing-market

[benp]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

Very impressed by both midwest cities. Sacramento's growth is due to Bay Area residents continuing their decades long invasion of the state capital in search of much less expensive housing. Anyhow this data from Redfin's market insight page for each city.

THIS IS BY CITY PROPER.

50 Largest US Cities by Homes for Sale
Average Days on Market..City, State..(Median Sale Price)
OCT 2020
135 New York, NY($626,000)
66 Miami, FL($365,000)
47 Milwaukee, WI($165,000)
42 Los Angeles, CA($850,000)
40 Las Vegas, NV($310,000)
41 Nashville, TN($343,000)
41 Tucson, AZ($257,000)
39 Charlotte, NC($290,000)
39 Raleigh, NC($315,000)
38 Jacksonville, FL($229,995)
38 Long Beach, CA($720,000)
37 Austin, TX($455,000)
37 Detroit, MI($60,000)
37 Philadelphia, PA($242,025)
36 Dallas, TX($379,500)
33 New Orleans, LA($325,000)
32 Atlanta, GA($348,450)
32 Memphis, TN($186,000)
32 Phoenix, AZ($325,000)
31 Baltimore, MD($195,000)
29 San Antonio, TX($240,000)
28 UNITED STATES AVERAGE($335,454)
28 El Paso, TX($187,950)
28 Houston, TX($250,000)
28 San Francisco, CA($1,407,000)
25 Fort Worth, TX($260,000)
25 Washington, DC($680,000)
24 Virginia Beach, VA($293,000)
23 Boston, MA($699,000)
22 Arlington, TX($242,750)
22 Chicago, IL($320,000)
21 Colorado Springs, CO($357,000)
21 Louisville, KY($215,000)
20 San Jose, CA($1,101,000)
17 Tampa, FL($275,000)
16 Minneapolis, MN($309,000)
15 Albuquerque, NM($250,000)
15 Kansas City, MO($220,000)
15 Tulsa, OK($194,834)
14 San Diego, CA($682,750)
13 Oakland, CA($867,500)
12 Oklahoma City, OK($215,000)
10 Denver, CO($507,000)
10 Portland, OR($499,000)
9 Fresno, CA($320,000)
9 Seattle, WA($747,000)
8 Sacramento, CA($395,000)
7 Omaha, NE($217,000)
6 Indianapolis, IN($185,000)

https://www.redfin.com/us-housing-market

Some other core cities part of 1M+ metro areas not in above list, same source:

55 Pittsburgh ($210,000)
49 Cincinnati ($190,000)
48 Birmingham ($280,000)
39 Columbus ($210,000)
30 Cleveland ($114,062)
19 St. Louis ($190,000)
10 Buffalo ($180,625)
7 Grand Rapids ($213,250)
7 Rochester, NY ($152,000)

[Yuri]

Detroit is another planet entirely. Much lower than any other Rust Belt city.

[liat91]

Most to least expensive;
1. San Francisco: $1,407,000
2. San Jose: $1,101,000
3. Oakland: $867,000
4. Los Angeles: $850,000
5. Seattle: $747,000
6. Long Beach: $720,000
7. Boston: $699,000
8. San Diego: $682,750
9. Washington DC: $680,000
10. New York: $626,000
11. Denver: $507,000
12. Portland,OR: $499,000
13. Austin: $455,000
14. Sacramento: $395,000
15. Dallas: $379,500
16. Miami: $365,000
17. Colorado Springs:$357,000
18. Atlanta: $348,450
19. Nashville: $343,000
20. Phoenix:$325,000
21. New Orleans: $325,000
22. Chicago: $320,000
23. Fresno: $320,000
24. Raleigh: $315,000
25. Las Vegas: $310,000
26. Minneapolis: $309,000
27. Virginia Beach: $293,000
28. Charlotte: $290,000
29. Birmingham: $280,000
30. Tampa: $275,000
31. Fort Worth: $260,000
32. Tucson: $257,000
33. Houston: $250,000
34. Albuquerque: $250,000
35. Arlington: $242,750
36. Philadelphia: $242,025
37. San Antonio: $240,000
38. Jacksonville: $229,995
39. Kansas City: $220,000
40. Omaha: $217,000
41. Oklahoma City: $215,000
42. Louisville: $215,000
43. Grand Rapids: $213,250
44. Pittsburgh: $210,000
45. Columbus: $210,000
46. Baltimore: $195,000
47. Tulsa: $194,834
48. St. Louis: $190,000
49. Cincinnati: $190,000
50. El Paso: $187,950
51. Memphis: $186,000
52. Indianapolis: $185,000
53. Buffalo: $180,625
54. Milwaukee: $165,000
55. Rochester: $152,000
56. Cleveland: $114,062
57. Detroit: $60,000

Seems like the big sunbelt cities aren’t such bargains any longer. Houston more expensive than Philadelphia...

[The North One]

Originally Posted by yuriandrade

Detroit is another planet entirely. Much lower than any other Rust Belt city.

You have a lot of homes on the east side needing heavy renovation work that still sell for $1000 something, that's skewing the average way down. Also a lot of homes that will sell on market for 30K get flipped and go for 100k within a year. Prices are increasing way faster than any of those other cities.

The strangest thing here is New York City having more than double average days on market than any city in the country, 135 WTF??? Seems like a clear indication the market there is due for a steep price correction.

[bossabreezes]

Im not sure it's strange, since New York was the first to be kicked in the bum by Covid. Not too many people from the outside want in at this moment.

Unfortunately I do think New York is in for a fundamental change, which does not make me happy in any sense, but I get the feeling that it's ''shine'' has worn off for not only most residents but also most people who would have previously looked at NY as some kind of El Dorado.

[iheartthed]

Sellers in NYC are just waiting out the market. A similar thing happened during the Great Recession when market demand fell dramatically. Instead of lowering prices people just held onto their property longer. By next summer I think we'll see urban real estate quickly rebound and suburban markets stalling.

Also, not to offend anyone but panic buying in the suburbs this year was incredibly stupid. Even if you were planning a move to the suburbs, the rush of buyers has pumped up the prices and they are bound to deflate. This is going to happen even if the pandemic has permanently altered behavior.

[Yuri]

Originally Posted by The North One

You have a lot of homes on the east side needing heavy renovation work that still sell for $1000 something, that's skewing the average way down. Also a lot of homes that will sell on market for 30K get flipped and go for 100k within a year. Prices are increasing way faster than any of those other cities.

The strangest thing here is New York City having more than double average days on market than any city in the country, 135 WTF??? Seems like a clear indication the market there is due for a steep price correction.

How much those new apartments they are building Downtown Detroit costs? A 400-500 sq ft, for instance? I imagine they are quite expensive.

[Ant131531]

Originally Posted by liat91

Most to least expensive;
1. San Francisco: $1,407,000
2. San Jose: $1,101,000
3. Oakland: $867,000
4. Los Angeles: $850,000
5. Seattle: $747,000
6. Long Beach: $720,000
7. Boston: $699,000
8. San Diego: $682,750
9. Washington DC: $680,000
10. New York: $626,000
11. Denver: $507,000
12. Portland,OR: $499,000
13. Austin: $455,000
14. Sacramento: $395,000
15. Dallas: $379,500
16. Miami: $365,000
17. Colorado Springs:$357,000
18. Atlanta: $348,450
19. Nashville: $343,000
20. Phoenix:$325,000
21. New Orleans: $325,000
22. Chicago: $320,000
23. Fresno: $320,000
24. Raleigh: $315,000
25. Las Vegas: $310,000
26. Minneapolis: $309,000
27. Virginia Beach: $293,000
28. Charlotte: $290,000
29. Birmingham: $280,000
30. Tampa: $275,000
31. Fort Worth: $260,000
32. Tucson: $257,000
33. Houston: $250,000
34. Albuquerque: $250,000
35. Arlington: $242,750
36. Philadelphia: $242,025
37. San Antonio: $240,000
38. Jacksonville: $229,995
39. Kansas City: $220,000
40. Omaha: $217,000
41. Oklahoma City: $215,000
42. Louisville: $215,000
43. Grand Rapids: $213,250
44. Pittsburgh: $210,000
45. Columbus: $210,000
46. Baltimore: $195,000
47. Tulsa: $194,834
48. St. Louis: $190,000
49. Cincinnati: $190,000
50. El Paso: $187,950
51. Memphis: $186,000
52. Indianapolis: $185,000
53. Buffalo: $180,625
54. Milwaukee: $165,000
55. Rochester: $152,000
56. Cleveland: $114,062
57. Detroit: $60,000

Seems like the big sunbelt cities aren’t such bargains any longer. Houston more expensive than Philadelphia...

Most people who move to the sunbelt move to the relatively cheaper suburbs anyway.

[AviationGuy]

Originally Posted by liat91

Most to least expensive;
1. San Francisco: $1,407,000
2. San Jose: $1,101,000
3. Oakland: $867,000
4. Los Angeles: $850,000
5. Seattle: $747,000
6. Long Beach: $720,000
7. Boston: $699,000
8. San Diego: $682,750
9. Washington DC: $680,000
10. New York: $626,000
11. Denver: $507,000
12. Portland,OR: $499,000
13. Austin: $455,000
14. Sacramento: $395,000
15. Dallas: $379,500
16. Miami: $365,000
17. Colorado Springs:$357,000
18. Atlanta: $348,450
19. Nashville: $343,000
20. Phoenix:$325,000
21. New Orleans: $325,000
22. Chicago: $320,000
23. Fresno: $320,000
24. Raleigh: $315,000
25. Las Vegas: $310,000
26. Minneapolis: $309,000
27. Virginia Beach: $293,000
28. Charlotte: $290,000
29. Birmingham: $280,000
30. Tampa: $275,000
31. Fort Worth: $260,000
32. Tucson: $257,000
33. Houston: $250,000
34. Albuquerque: $250,000
35. Arlington: $242,750
36. Philadelphia: $242,025
37. San Antonio: $240,000
38. Jacksonville: $229,995
39. Kansas City: $220,000
40. Omaha: $217,000
41. Oklahoma City: $215,000
42. Louisville: $215,000
43. Grand Rapids: $213,250
44. Pittsburgh: $210,000
45. Columbus: $210,000
46. Baltimore: $195,000
47. Tulsa: $194,834
48. St. Louis: $190,000
49. Cincinnati: $190,000
50. El Paso: $187,950
51. Memphis: $186,000
52. Indianapolis: $185,000
53. Buffalo: $180,625
54. Milwaukee: $165,000
55. Rochester: $152,000
56. Cleveland: $114,062
57. Detroit: $60,000

Seems like the big sunbelt cities aren’t such bargains any longer. Houston more expensive than Philadelphia...

Look at Austin, at 455K for median. If you're right in the city, homes less than the median are often in significant need of upgrades or are candidates for replacement. In some neighborhoods, even homes way above the median need a lot of work (e.g., Crestview, Allandale). On my street, a homebuilder bought a property in disrepair (due to a burst pipe) for 435K, and built a huge home on the lot and sold it for 1.35M.

In the suburbs, you can still get very nice, new homes in 400s and up, and possibly 300s in some areas.

[Sam Hill]

Originally Posted by liat91

Most to least expensive;
1. San Francisco: $1,407,000
2. San Jose: $1,101,000
3. Oakland: $867,000
4. Los Angeles: $850,000
5. Seattle: $747,000
6. Long Beach: $720,000
7. Boston: $699,000
8. San Diego: $682,750
9. Washington DC: $680,000
10. New York: $626,000
11. Denver: $507,000
12. Portland,OR: $499,000
13. Austin: $455,000
14. Sacramento: $395,000
15. Dallas: $379,500
16. Miami: $365,000
17. Colorado Springs:$357,000
18. Atlanta: $348,450
19. Nashville: $343,000
20. Phoenix:$325,000
21. New Orleans: $325,000
22. Chicago: $320,000
23. Fresno: $320,000
24. Raleigh: $315,000
25. Las Vegas: $310,000
26. Minneapolis: $309,000
27. Virginia Beach: $293,000
28. Charlotte: $290,000
29. Birmingham: $280,000
30. Tampa: $275,000
31. Fort Worth: $260,000
32. Tucson: $257,000
33. Houston: $250,000
34. Albuquerque: $250,000
35. Arlington: $242,750
36. Philadelphia: $242,025
37. San Antonio: $240,000
38. Jacksonville: $229,995
39. Kansas City: $220,000
40. Omaha: $217,000
41. Oklahoma City: $215,000
42. Louisville: $215,000
43. Grand Rapids: $213,250
44. Pittsburgh: $210,000
45. Columbus: $210,000
46. Baltimore: $195,000
47. Tulsa: $194,834
48. St. Louis: $190,000
49. Cincinnati: $190,000
50. El Paso: $187,950
51. Memphis: $186,000
52. Indianapolis: $185,000
53. Buffalo: $180,625
54. Milwaukee: $165,000
55. Rochester: $152,000
56. Cleveland: $114,062
57. Detroit: $60,000

Seems like the big sunbelt cities aren’t such bargains any longer. Houston more expensive than Philadelphia...

I never thought I'd see my dusty little home town so high up on a list like this. It's sad. I can't stop kicking myself for not buying a place back when it was dirt cheap. I could have easily afforded it then, but now I'm not sure I will ever be able to.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by liat91

Most to least expensive;
1. San Francisco: $1,407,000
2. San Jose: $1,101,000
3. Oakland: $867,000
4. Los Angeles: $850,000
5. Seattle: $747,000
6. Long Beach: $720,000
7. Boston: $699,000
8. San Diego: $682,750
9. Washington DC: $680,000
10. New York: $626,000
11. Denver: $507,000
12. Portland,OR: $499,000
13. Austin: $455,000
14. Sacramento: $395,000
15. Dallas: $379,500
16. Miami: $365,000
17. Colorado Springs:$357,000
18. Atlanta: $348,450
19. Nashville: $343,000
20. Phoenix:$325,000
21. New Orleans: $325,000
22. Chicago: $320,000
23. Fresno: $320,000
24. Raleigh: $315,000
25. Las Vegas: $310,000
26. Minneapolis: $309,000
27. Virginia Beach: $293,000
28. Charlotte: $290,000
29. Birmingham: $280,000
30. Tampa: $275,000
31. Fort Worth: $260,000
32. Tucson: $257,000
33. Houston: $250,000
34. Albuquerque: $250,000
35. Arlington: $242,750
36. Philadelphia: $242,025
37. San Antonio: $240,000
38. Jacksonville: $229,995
39. Kansas City: $220,000
40. Omaha: $217,000
41. Oklahoma City: $215,000
42. Louisville: $215,000
43. Grand Rapids: $213,250
44. Pittsburgh: $210,000
45. Columbus: $210,000
46. Baltimore: $195,000
47. Tulsa: $194,834
48. St. Louis: $190,000
49. Cincinnati: $190,000
50. El Paso: $187,950
51. Memphis: $186,000
52. Indianapolis: $185,000
53. Buffalo: $180,625
54. Milwaukee: $165,000
55. Rochester: $152,000
56. Cleveland: $114,062
57. Detroit: $60,000

Seems like the big sunbelt cities aren’t such bargains any longer. Houston more expensive than Philadelphia...

Welp, our housing market (Birmingham) looks pretty tight. Not all that shocking. I wish home builders were more bullish on our entire residential market, like they are with downtown. $280,000 is a bit much for what is supposed to be a very affordable city.

[Labtec]

Originally Posted by liat91

Most to least expensive;
1. San Francisco: $1,407,000
2. San Jose: $1,101,000
3. Oakland: $867,000
4. Los Angeles: $850,000
5. Seattle: $747,000
6. Long Beach: $720,000
7. Boston: $699,000
8. San Diego: $682,750
9. Washington DC: $680,000
10. New York: $626,000
11. Denver: $507,000
12. Portland,OR: $499,000
13. Austin: $455,000
14. Sacramento: $395,000
15. Dallas: $379,500
16. Miami: $365,000
17. Colorado Springs:$357,000
18. Atlanta: $348,450
19. Nashville: $343,000
20. Phoenix:$325,000
21. New Orleans: $325,000
22. Chicago: $320,000
23. Fresno: $320,000
24. Raleigh: $315,000
25. Las Vegas: $310,000
26. Minneapolis: $309,000
27. Virginia Beach: $293,000
28. Charlotte: $290,000
29. Birmingham: $280,000
30. Tampa: $275,000
31. Fort Worth: $260,000
32. Tucson: $257,000
33. Houston: $250,000
34. Albuquerque: $250,000
35. Arlington: $242,750
36. Philadelphia: $242,025
37. San Antonio: $240,000
38. Jacksonville: $229,995
39. Kansas City: $220,000
40. Omaha: $217,000
41. Oklahoma City: $215,000
42. Louisville: $215,000
43. Grand Rapids: $213,250
44. Pittsburgh: $210,000
45. Columbus: $210,000
46. Baltimore: $195,000
47. Tulsa: $194,834
48. St. Louis: $190,000
49. Cincinnati: $190,000
50. El Paso: $187,950
51. Memphis: $186,000
52. Indianapolis: $185,000
53. Buffalo: $180,625
54. Milwaukee: $165,000
55. Rochester: $152,000
56. Cleveland: $114,062
57. Detroit: $60,000

Seems like the big sunbelt cities aren’t such bargains any longer. Houston more expensive than Philadelphia...

It's not. I purchased my home in Atlanta for $250,000 in 2012 (The previous owner built it as new construction for $400,000 in 2007 right before the crash). Now, the home is worth over $500,000 (according to the comps that sold recently in the neighborhood). It's still relatively cheap to a city like San Francisco but it's not dirt cheap anymore. I wished I purchased more property back then, since some have gone up 5x in value.

[Nomad9]

Originally Posted by SpawnOfVulcan

Welp, our housing market (Birmingham) looks pretty tight. Not all that shocking. I wish home builders were more bullish on our entire residential market, like they are with downtown. $280,000 is a bit much for what is supposed to be a very affordable city.

You’re telling me. I moved here recently from the northeast and the market is not nearly as inexpensive as I imagined/hoped. There are still some big houses for cheap in some parts of the metro, but it’s pretty bad in the decent city neighborhoods and the more established/nicer burbs.

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by Nomad9

You’re telling me. I moved here recently from the northeast and the market is not nearly as inexpensive as I imagined/hoped. There are still some big houses for cheap in some parts of the metro, but it’s pretty bad in the decent city neighborhoods and the more established/nicer burbs.

That's pretty surprising... I always imagined Alabama as a cheap place to live...

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by Nomad9

You’re telling me. I moved here recently from the northeast and the market is not nearly as inexpensive as I imagined/hoped. There are still some big houses for cheap in some parts of the metro, but it’s pretty bad in the decent city neighborhoods and the more established/nicer burbs.

Nice to have an additional Birmingham forumer. Hope you join us in the Southeast forum and the Birmingham city compilation!

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

That's pretty surprising... I always imagined Alabama as a cheap place to live...

It is incredibly cheap to live here; but, if you want a house in the urbanized part of town (e.g. convenient to downtown) you'll likely have to pay a bit more.

When I first moved to Birmingham, I expected to move into my house after a couple of years, but 5 years later and I'm still in the same apartment. Houses in my neighborhood of town are actually pretty reasonably priced and convenient to downtown, it's just that not all of hour neighborhood looks nice and clean like the houses being bought and flipped like mad.

Also, homes would appear to be a reasonably priced house on the southside of downtown are actually very pricey.

In Alabama, if you want reasonable housing prices and job availability, Huntsville is really your best bet. HSV is much more flat, has a lot of room for suburbs to grow (unlike Birmingham where inner suburbs are confined to a lot of pretty narrow valleys), and is part of a population triangle that has even better priced homes in the other two anchor cities (Decatur and Athens). The Eastern Shore across the bay from Mobile also has great housing prices with a very high quality of life. Same goes for Elmore County across the Alabama River from Montgomery.

[PersonOfInterest]

Burbs in states/cities with shitty/non-existent zoning are terrible though, unless you are in the gated communities with private police and fire and security and schools.

[toddguy]

Originally Posted by dimondpark

Very impressed by both midwest cities. Sacramento's growth is due to Bay Area residents continuing their decades long invasion of the state capital in search of much less expensive housing. Anyhow this data from Redfin's market insight page for each city.

THIS IS BY CITY PROPER.

50 Largest US Cities by Homes for Sale
Average Days on Market..City, State..(Median Sale Price)
OCT 2020
135 New York, NY($626,000)
66 Miami, FL($365,000)
47 Milwaukee, WI($165,000)
42 Los Angeles, CA($850,000)
40 Las Vegas, NV($310,000)
41 Nashville, TN($343,000)
41 Tucson, AZ($257,000)
39 Charlotte, NC($290,000)
39 Raleigh, NC($315,000)
38 Jacksonville, FL($229,995)
38 Long Beach, CA($720,000)
37 Austin, TX($455,000)
37 Detroit, MI($60,000)
37 Philadelphia, PA($242,025)
36 Dallas, TX($379,500)
33 New Orleans, LA($325,000)
32 Atlanta, GA($348,450)
32 Memphis, TN($186,000)
32 Phoenix, AZ($325,000)
31 Baltimore, MD($195,000)
29 San Antonio, TX($240,000)
28 UNITED STATES AVERAGE($335,454)
28 El Paso, TX($187,950)
28 Houston, TX($250,000)
28 San Francisco, CA($1,407,000)
25 Fort Worth, TX($260,000)
25 Washington, DC($680,000)
24 Virginia Beach, VA($293,000)
23 Boston, MA($699,000)
22 Arlington, TX($242,750)
22 Chicago, IL($320,000)
21 Colorado Springs, CO($357,000)
21 Louisville, KY($215,000)
20 San Jose, CA($1,101,000)
17 Tampa, FL($275,000)
16 Minneapolis, MN($309,000)
15 Albuquerque, NM($250,000)
15 Kansas City, MO($220,000)
15 Tulsa, OK($194,834)
14 San Diego, CA($682,750)
13 Oakland, CA($867,500)
12 Oklahoma City, OK($215,000)
10 Denver, CO($507,000)
10 Portland, OR($499,000)
9 Fresno, CA($320,000)
9 Seattle, WA($747,000)
8 Sacramento, CA($395,000)
7 Omaha, NE($217,000)
6 Indianapolis, IN($185,000)

https://www.redfin.com/us-housing-market

If this is by city proper, why is Columbus missing?

[benp]

Originally Posted by toddguy

If this is by city proper, why is Columbus missing?

I added a few more cities including Columbus in post #2 of this thread. I think it originally may have been by total number of homes sold, not size of the city.

[SpawnOfVulcan]

Originally Posted by PersonOfInterest

Burbs in states/cities with shitty/non-existent zoning are terrible though, unless you are in the gated communities with private police and fire and security and schools.

I mean, I guess that's pretty true, but you'd be hard pressed to find a whole lot of people living outside of an incorporate town or city in Alabama unless you're looking in a county with a large population (that's one reason why it's hard to get anything done, regionally, in Birmingham... so many people live in so many different cities). Even if you are looking at unincorporated communities that you'd consider an actual suburb they're usually very, very nice with good schools. In fact, I'd say down here the worst suburbs, worst schools, and worse public services are actually in incorporated communities with control over zoning.