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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 5:55 PM
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In terms of construction, with the large center opening, would this need to be a steel structure or would concrete be feasible?
     
     
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In terms of construction, with the large center opening, would this need to be a steel structure or would concrete be feasible?
It could be concrete with 2 cores.
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 5:58 PM
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so will there be an archway on the bottom of the building so that cars go underneath or not?
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 6:23 PM
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^^ I quite like it. It's reminiscent of one of the firm's earliest works, a condo building in Miami that has a smaller opening in the middle with a pool area in the void. I think it definitely fits the "Chicago archetype" for skyscrapers in this City: simple, elegant and stoic, yet the void adds something new and provides the archetype something that really hasn't been part of the Chicago vernacular before. The $64,000 question will be the finishes which in my opinion will make or break the overall design; If nicer, more expensive finishes are selected, including the glazing system then I doubt there is anything to worry about, however if Lowenberg decides to start creating unncessary value-engineered issues to bring the constr. cost down, then there will be a problem.
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 7:04 PM
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That is a good looking building. I'd like to have a condo up near the top on the inside of the hole.
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 7:29 PM
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^ 400 million for a 76 floor tower seems like a tight budget.
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Looks to be over 900 feet to me. I really like it, and I'm not an Arquitechtonica fan in general. The massing (other than the window) reminds me of the great old deco buildings on S. LaSalle.
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 8:12 PM
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hmmmm....can't wait to see color renderings.

also, according to the article, this will be the 8th building and will bring the total amount of units under construction or built to about 3,100. that leaves up to 1,900 more units to be built for the rest of the develoment. Depending on how many commercial structures they build, the next round of residential buildings may not be so tall.
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Looks like the 50s are back.
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 9:01 PM
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i think its just a bad rendering in the paper cause theres nothing about this that really stands out except the 20 storie cut out! If anything it looks like a gussied up lowenberg design!!! u bunch of precast concrete stacked in a different kind of design. Maybe once the color rendering is revealed this will be more interesting
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 9:14 PM
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Looks like the 50s are back.
Yes, back when everything was in black and white.
     
     
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Old Posted May 9, 2007, 9:18 PM
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Looks like the 50s are back.
Exactly what I thought.

ANyway, I think this'll be a great project to contrast to Aqua and BCBS. It'll be especially great to have that hole line up with the street and park path.
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Mixed feelings for now - I don't want to say I hate it or love it because of the reasons mentioned in prior posts. However, the void will be pretty dramatic and I'm sure something cool can be done with it.
     
     
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"What if the Bauhaus School had survived into the 60s and the first-year students were asked to design a large insane asylum for Brasilia?"
i've been searching for an answer to that very question for years now.

perhaps that's why i'm so excited by what little we've seen so far. so much is unknown from these small scans of a poor black and white newspaper image that to make any concrete proclomations about the design, good or bad, is more than a bit foolish, but this at least has some potential to be something truly special.

the great concern is that no matter what arquitectonica comes up with, the design will go through the dreaded "lowenburg-ification" and it'll be dumbed down to mediocrity, or worse. seeing how aqua shapes up will tell us a lot about the direction this one might go in.
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Added bu>299071 to Emporis database. . . .
tom, that emporis building ID number lead me to a "file not found" page. are you sure that's the right number?
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