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Old Posted Jan 19, 2019, 1:22 PM
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Please don't tell me that's a real building or design? Freaking hideous.
It's real and it's coming. And we love it!
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2019, 2:43 PM
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I have personally had enough of the mid-2000's architectural trope of bumping out portions of a square building. The silhouette this tower will cut is horrendous.
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I bet within a decade or so there will be 6-7 towers of this height in Midtown. We already have 2 or 3 in development, and there are some MAJOR sites still unaccounted for.

Extell will want to top Macklowe, I have no doubt. He has three potential Midtown supertall assemblages: at 570 Fifth, another at 740 Eighth, and a third on Billionaires Row. I think one (or more) of these three will be a new tallest.

Then there's the giant assemblage across from Bloomingdales, the Park Lane site, and various sites in Hudson Yards and Midtown East.
+ MTA site, Pfizer site, 245 Park is for sale, the Colgate building on Park. No way any one of those last ten years. 1400' plateau in Midtown by 2030.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2019, 8:38 PM
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I haven't seen this rendering before of CPT.




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Old Posted Jan 19, 2019, 8:42 PM
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+ MTA site, Pfizer site, 245 Park is for sale, the Colgate building on Park. No way any one of those last ten years. 1400' plateau in Midtown by 2030.
Exciting times with those sites listed by you and Crawford.

I think it will become the norm in town because of land prices and just how built up the city is already in Manhattan. This is definitely an upwind trend that has been increasing in frequency. The good thing is that as existing office stock is either upgraded to nice Class-Am with large ceiling heights, we are bound to see more. Residential too!
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Current super tall status. Note, does not include this development yet as this is recent news as of late yesterday. But I think we get the point!

Further adding to the parcels/assemblages indicated in the past posts, and the future looks to be well over 300m+.

The CTBUH hasn’t added this tower yet, but just a snap shot of whats rising in the 300m category or planned/complete.

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Old Posted Jan 19, 2019, 10:18 PM
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^^This table is an excellent summary of the current 300+ m status. Just 10 years ago, NYC's tallest were dominated by very old buildings:

Empire State Building (1931): 381 m
Bank of America Tower (2009): 365.8 m
Chrysler Building (1930): 318.9 m
New York Times Tower (2007): 318.8 m
70 Pine Street (1932): 290.2 m
40 Wall Street (1930): 282.5 m
Citigroup Center (1977): 278.9 m
Trump World Tower (2001): 262.4 m
GE Building (1933): 259.8 m
CitySpire Center (1987): 248.1 m
One Chase Manhattan Plaza (1961): 247.8 m
4 Time Square (1999): 246.6 m
MetLife Building (1963): 246.3 m

I went to the ESB's upper (102nd floor) observation deck in June 2009 and remember feeling a little sad that most of the prominent buildings in the city were so old. The supertalls built since 2009 have drastically modernized NYC's skyline.
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The ESB is on its way to not even being the 10th or 11th tallest. Which is f**** nuts when you think about it. Like you said, 10 years ago, nobody would of thought.

We also will look forward to the HY Phase II development which will be about the same square footage as Phase I. With that said, the proximity properties to HY will no doubt yield more super talls.

I think Phase II HY will see bulkier, but shorter towers (compensate with bulk), so I'm not getting my hopes up, but nevertheless, its still good news. The prospects to look forward to are the surrounding parcels.

Hopefully 2 WTC can land a tenant or a series of tenants. Silverstien has had a lot of leasing success, recently too, with 3 WTC, so if he could snag a couple of smaller tenants to meet the minimum commitment, might yield in it rising.
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I hope that new building see's some revisions. I'm a believer that the tallest buildings that will have the most prominent impacts should have a traditional taper, or spire. It's just aesthetically pleasing. I understand its a trend, and while i dont love them, i have come to accept some of them, but even for a square box building thats pretty bad. Just very random and un-elegant. I feel there should be a higher barrier of sophistication for a massive 1500 foot tower, that will permanently change the skyline. Of course, its all subjective, but just my thoughts. 30 HY and 1 Vand are perfect examples of living up to their prominence.
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Left to Right: CPT, Verre, 111 W 57th


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Its been a couple of months since the last update. Via CTBUH, of proposed/construction (topped out and its various forms as well)

Let the holy shit moment commence!

First off, lets start with a time line. Note just 150m+.



Proposals and u/c (note, this isn't 100% to the teeth in my assessment)




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Tower 5th projection. How it may impact the skyline (assuming no redesign or that it rises or that it retains the same height)


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Really impressive
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How Tower 5th may appear:


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Permitting data and trends. Note the focus on the outer boroughs in which a lot of the developments are residential base. Manhattan still holds the record and performance gains with respect to office square footage. Even with its density, the last 3 to 4 years have seen a "average american city x several magnitudes" in terms of office gains. The Big Apple is full of growth steroids, growing even bigger.

DO note the Bronx. The next boom spot. Watch out for Queens and the Bronx, exciting times!


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https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2...rks-super-rich

Super-tall, super-skinny, super-expensive: the 'pencil towers' of New York's super-rich

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A graphic showing 159 sites in Manhattan that could potentially accommodate a residential skyscraper of 600 ft or taller. Photograph: KPF Urban Interface





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The proposed 2022 skyline overlooking Central Park. Photograph: Andrew C Nelson






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There are millions of square metres of unused development rights remaining across New York, and around 100 sites that could still accommodate a super-tall tower.

Mas is tracking more than 100 proposals for super-tall towers (taller than 180 metres) in the pipeline, from a Russian-backed project at 262 Fifth Avenue – likely to block
views of the Empire State building from Madison Square Park – to 80 South Street, a vertiginous needle for Lower Manhattan, whose 426,000 sq ftof air rights account for
almost half its height. There are many more on the way. Brooklyn is the latest battleground and even Harlem is being touted as the next frontier.
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The Grand Hyatt at Grand Central is going to be torn down to make way for a 2MSF tower!
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I heard Amazon is thinking of not building headquarters in NYC.

That true??


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I heard Amazon is thinking of not building headquarters in NYC.

That true??

They're reconsidering (from what I heard at least), not sure if anything's been decided yet though.

While NYC is obviously an okay choice some other cities need it more. I think should split it between Chicago and Philly.
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