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Old Posted Dec 28, 2008, 2:02 PM
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Does anyone know when the ramp will be totaly gone ? And when it is does that mean they will build the chiller plant ?
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This is December 2008; it boggles my mind that in almost 3 years, in Sept. 2011, this project won't be done. It seems the pace is moving fairly steady as of late. 3 years should make it very close to completion, no?
No, this complex will be larger than the original WTC and will take less time to build. And that is including the time it took to remove the debris.
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found this on nytimes.com

Last of the Ground Zero Ramp Is Removed
By DAVID W. DUNLAP
The last remaining structural remnants of the 460-foot-long ramp at the World Trade Center site, leading from street level down nearly to bedrock, were hoisted up and out of ground zero by a crane on Wednesday — there being no ramp any longer on which to haul the X-shaped truss work.

A ramp section during the hoist, with the Goldman Sachs tower behind it.
The dismantling of the ramp, a utilitarian structure that assumed a special symbolic importance during memorial ceremonies, was necessary to permit further steel erection at the south end of the below-ground site.

Tom O’Connor, a senior engineer at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, smiled when he was asked whether removing the ramp would hinder construction progress. “It doesn’t slow it at all,” he said. “It was a very long ramp to walk up and down. Stairs are quicker.” Materials will be picked up and hoisted by cranes.

When the impending removal of the ramp was announced last month, victims’ family members paused to reflect on its significance. Jefferson Crowther said he had no deep-rooted feeling about it as an artifact but explained that the ramp indirectly aided the search for his son, Welles Remy Crowther. Welles was an equities trader who worked on the 104th floor of the south tower, and he died after organizing rescue efforts in the 78th-floor sky lobby. (He became known in 9/11 lore as the “man in the red bandanna,” since he wore one that morning to protect his nose and mouth.) Recalling that Welles’s body was not found until March 19, 2002, under the earthen roadway that the structural ramp replaced, his father said, with a sigh, “If they hadn’t built it, we might have had to wait longer.”

The removal of the ramp was among the specific milestones that the Port Authority has set for itself for the first three months of 2009. On Wednesday, the authority released an update of the nine milestones it had hoped to achieve during the last three months of 2008.

In the update, Christopher O. Ward, the executive director of the authority, told Gov. David A. Paterson that eight milestones had been achieved. What has not yet happened, Mr. Ward said, is the scheduled turning over of the sites for Tower 2 and Tower 3 to Larry A. Silverstein, who would develop commercial skyscrapers on those lots. The authority and the developer have not yet settled issues over a retaining wall that impinges on an area Mr. Silverstein needs for construction and access to the E train subway station through the Tower 2 site.

But it is also unclear how quickly Mr. Silverstein could proceed even if he had timely control of the sites, given an ever-deepening recession and the breakup, shrinking or disappearance of the financial institutions that would be among his likeliest tenants. A near future without Towers 2 and 3 is looking ever more probable.
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Does anybody know what we are supposed to make of this...? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...00701#28900701 Is it just me or is MSNBC just outright spreading misinformation? David Shuster keeps saying "nothing has gotten off the ground." If he spent two seconds researching his facts, he wouldn't have wasted all this time with these reports.

Unless maybe I'm wrong? Is this anything but pure fantasy?
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Don't know what happend to the Fulton Transit Center thread, so I'll post this here...

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01302009...hub_152711.htm
FEDS PAYING $497M FOR FULTON SUBWAY HUB

By TOM NAMAKO Transit Reporter
January 30, 2009


The $497 million needed to construct the long-delayed Fulton Street Transit Center will be paid entirely through President Obama's economic stimulus package, MTA officials said yesterday.

The project calls for a 12-subway hub with an above-ground, glass-covered pavilion to replace the current maze of loosely linked stations.


MTA Executive Director Eliot Sander announced the funding at a state Assembly hearing yesterday, telling Speaker Sheldon Silver the new funds would cover an additional $200 million in costs that were previously unannounced.

The federal stimulus package was passed Wednesday by the House and is awaiting a Senate vote.

Ground was broken on the Fulton station in July 2005, and it has been set back by rising construction costs and a scaling back of its original plans.

As a result, many businesses have closed and the surrounding neighborhood was left with an eyesore.

"People have been worried that we were going to leave a hole in the ground or construct a simple subway entrance instead of the iconic structure that the community was expecting," Sander said. "I am here to tell you that this is not the case."

The original designs of the above-ground glass structure called for an oculus that would reflect light into the station. The plans were later simplified to only include skylights.

So far, the state has pitched in $58 million for the project. The federal government already has contributed $819 million, not counting the $497 million Sander announced yesterday.

The Second Avenue Subway and East Side Access projects also are slated for stimulus-package funding, Sander said.
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/01302009..._11_152737.htm

BIG DAY: 9/11/11

By TOM TOPOUSIS
January 30, 2009

The World Trade Center Memorial will be open to the public by the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks - and it will remain open afterward, even as construction continues on the project, officials said yesterday.

In his strongest words to date, Port Authority Executive Director Chris Ward told a state Assembly hearing on the World Trade Center that the opening of the memorial by the 2011 anniversary wouldn't be just a one-day event, as had been feared.

"The memorial will remain open to some form of public access," Ward said.

Key components of the memorial - the plaza, reflecting pools, waterfalls and parapets with the names of victims inscribed - will be in place, Ward said. The amount of landscaping will depend on how much construction remains.
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Whats up with the construction on the temp path entrance...
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2009, 12:42 PM
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^ That temporary entrance has been open for a good while now.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/31/ny...1&ref=nyregion

Taking the Adventure Out of Fulton St. Station



The station’s arrows and U-turn signs confuse tourists and New Yorkers alike. A renovation project is expected to ease navigation.


By C. J. HUGHES
January 30, 2009


The Fulton Street subway station might be a good spot for M.C. Escher to set up an easel, if the surrealist artist were still alive and sketching.

Ramps double back on themselves. Stairs twist down around corners. Passengers weave through a maze where there is no clear way forward.

“I come here every two weeks, and every time I get lost,” Khana Fraser, 34, a student from Far Rockaway, Queens, said as she paced a ramp near the A train platform, trying to find a street-side exit.

And if locals have problems decoding the station’s perplexing U-turn arrows — are they telling passengers on the way to another subway connection to make a left, or to do an about-face? — imagine how much like hieroglyphics they seem to tourists.

But the struggles with the layout quirks of this station, a bottleneck of nine subway lines, may soon cease. On Thursday, the executive director of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority announced that $497 million in federal stimulus money is expected to go toward renovating the station, a project that began in 2005 and stalled as it ran over budget.

Members of the Bain family, visiting from Belmont, N.C., and on their way to catch a ferry to see the Statue of Liberty, were among the many passengers mystified by the Fulton Street station’s signs on Friday.

“It’s a good thing I was wearing my contacts,” Matthew Bain, 15, said after he spied far-off green circles for the No. 4 and No. 5 trains while he stood at the same Bermuda Triangle of a juncture where Ms. Fraser had gone off course.

Matthew then alerted the other members of his family, so they could correct their direction.

Still, to get where they were going would require descending 19 stairs to the A train platform, jostling through a crowd of debarking riders, climbing 19 steps on the other side and traversing a dim, narrow hallway.

With the federal money, the transportation authority will put up a new glass station on the corner of Broadway and Fulton Street, which is now a fenced-in dirt lot, according to Elliot G. Sander, the agency’s executive director.

The authority will also go ahead with a plan to build a bypass hallway in the area where the A and C lines stop, said Kevin Ortiz, an authority spokesman.

“We will be able to eliminate the maze of ramps,” Mr. Ortiz said of the station, which recorded 66,293 MetroCard swipes in December 2007, the most recent month for which statistics were available, making it the seventh busiest of the city’s 468 subway stops.

Factoring in all the commuters who transfer between trains there, Fulton Street serves about 225,000 riders a day, Mr. Ortiz added.

While new hallways will be welcome, a few decent signs would drastically improve matters in the meantime, said Mark Sanders, 34, a student from Staten Island, who was aimlessly loping through the station before a reporter helped him with directions.

“When you’re rushing, you don’t see these little signs,” he said. Indeed, the one he missed, a tiny rectangle caked with dirt and bearing a streak of white paint, was the only indication at the top of a staircase that travelers should make a 180-degree turn to catch an uptown No. 5 train.

If passengers think the spaghetti tangle of passageways at Fulton Street is hard to navigate now, they should have visited during the mid-1930s.

Back then, two private companies and the city operated the station’s subway lines, and riders would have to pay additional fares and often had to go outside to transfer, said Peter Derrick, an archivist at the Bronx County Historical Society who has written about the subway system

It was not until 1940, when the city took over the entire system, that those transfer fares were phased out, Mr. Derrick said, adding that Fulton Street is still the most head-scratching station to get through in Manhattan.

“It’s a confusing mess, especially for somebody from out of town,” he said. “Any improvement will definitely be a good thing.”

Not everyone, though, is happy. Mun Lee, 38, of Palisades Park, N.J., who works as a tattoo artist in a shop one door over from where the new glass station building is scheduled to go up, said it would mean more years of disruptive construction.

“People think big building, big windows, it looks good,” said Mr. Lee as he finished adding Asian characters to a customer’s forearm. “But I can’t help thinking about my own business.”
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by looking at the temp path entrance i can assume the steel frame now exposed is all for expansion mentioned in the above article? -

- Well it now seems as though the P.A. didn't think things through, the conclusion i've drawn, because i know it was asked about in the freedom tower thread is that when the P.A. constructed the temp path entrance they didnt consider the ground furthest east (where the 60 ft high supports are footed) was in the zone needed to be excavated for T2 or they would just leave it to silverstein, but it looks to be like further excavation is now taking place under the former tamp path entrance overhang, correct me if i'm wrong..

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by looking at the temp path entrance i can assume the steel frame now exposed is all for expansion mentioned in the above article? -
That's two different terminals.
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http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/news...wtctunnel.html

Pedestrian Tunnel Taking Shape at World Trade Center







By Carl Glassman
POSTED MARCH 2, 2009


Progress can be seen all around the World Trade Center site these days. But one of the most dramatic strands in that complex web of development is 60 feet below street level and hidden from view. It is the shopping mall and shortcut known as the “East-West Connector.”

When the Port Authority completes it, the retail-lined concourse will connect the new PATH station, designed by Santiago Calatrava, with the World Financial Center in Battery Park City. Forty-seven of the 55 pre-cast steel arches that will rise above the underground walkway have been assembled and put in place, their forms mimicking the iconic rib-like arches that will soar throughout the PATH station.

Lately, welders have been putting the finishing touches on the joined steel pieces. Eight hundred tons of steel will be in place when the job is finished.

Atop the tunnel, other workers are constructing a sheet metal roof that will be the base of an extended Fulton Street.

The 270-foot-long stretch of pedestrian passageway extends from the edge of the PATH platform to the slurry wall. Workers are preparing to bore through the wall—the first time that’s been attempted—and extend the tunnel below West Street to Battery Park City.

Another 270 feet of tunnel will extend through the PATH station, and meet up with an MTA-built tunnel that will run from the Fulton Street Transit Center to Church Street, connecting 13 subway lines with the PATH. The entire length of underground pedestrian passage will stretch a quarter of a mile.


The columns on the north side of the concourse will frame storefronts for some of the half-million square feet of retail space in the transportation hub and office building lobbies—about the same amount of retail the Trade Center housed.

The concourse, now half finished, is expected to open along with the PATH station in early 2014, if the Port Authority can stay on its latest schedule.

“[The connection] marks real progress on the site, but there’s a long way to go,” Chris Ward, the Port Authority’s executive director, said in an email to the Trib, “and we must continue working aggressively to get there.”
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I don't think this rendering has been posted here before. I think it gives a really good sense of the scale of the entrance to the transit hub.

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