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I think most would agree with those sentiments.
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JR Central gives up on 2027 maglev launch after Shizuoka backs farmers

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- Central Japan Railway Co. has given up on launching the maglev line in 2027 after failing to secure approval for preparatory work from Shizuoka’s governor, who is concerned the massive project will damage the environment. — The Shizuoka Prefectural Government on Friday notified JR Central, as the railway is known, that it will not approve the resumption of preparatory work on the ultra-high-speed bullet train project, which will see magnetically levitated trains slash travel times by more than half.

- Under the current plan, JR Central would start excavating an area of Shizuoka running through the Southern Alps to build a tunnel for the maglev line, which would initially link Tokyo and Nagoya. — But local farmers are concerned construction will cause underground water to flow into the tunnel, diverting it away from the Oi River, which passes through a central part of Shizuoka well known for its production of tea and oranges. — Maglev trains will have a top speed of 500 kph, meaning the new line will slash the travel time between Nagoya and Tokyo.

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China plans to build two 600 km/h maglev lines

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- The plan of two 600 kilometer per hour high-speed maglev routes, including the Shanghai-Hangzhou maglev, and the Guangzhou-Shenzhen maglev, have appeared on the presentation of He Huawu, academician and vice director of the CAE, during a conference on modern transportation engineering technology on Wednesday, the paper.cn reported. The Shanghai-Hangzhou maglev will link Shanghai and Hangzhou in East China's Zhejiang Province, with a total length of 164 kilometers. It will also connect the current maglev line in Shanghai linking Pudong Airport. --- The Guangzhou-Shenzhen maglev line will connect Guangzhou to Shenzhen in South China's Guangdong Province, with a total length of about 110 kilometers, and it is expected to be connected to Hong Kong's Kowloon station in the future. The Shanghai-Hangzhou line will be mainly an open line, while the Guangzhou-Shenzhen maglev line will be an underground line, revealed He, who was one of major promoters of China's high-speed railway technology.

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‘We ought to knock it down’ | Alsobrooks leads opposition to proposed DC – Baltimore 311 mph maglev train

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- As a proposal for the world’s fastest bullet train between D.C. and Baltimore advances in a complex approval process, Prince George’s County Executive Angela D. Alsobrooks made it clear she hopes to derail a train that floats, calling the Northeast Maglev “ridiculous” and an insult to her constituents. --- “I don’t even think it’s going to happen, I’ve got to be honest with you,” Alsobrooks told the Greenbelt City Council Monday. “But I think we ought to oppose it every time they mention it, we ought to knock it down.” The proposed bullet train would link Baltimore and Washington in 15 minutes, with an intermediate stop at BWI Airport. Superconducting magnets lift the train four inches above the ground while propelling it forward.

- Backers contend a strong partnership between the Japanese railway company JR Central and the Baltimore-based Northeast Maglev would bring the technology to the United States. The Japanese government has agreed in principle to finance around half the $10 billion estimated price tag. A draft environmental impact statement, detailing the proposed SCMaglev’s effects on Maryland and the District is expected to be released to the public in early 2021. --- “There’s no ambivalence on my part at all about it, it’s clearly wrong,” Alsobrooks (D) told Greenbelt council members during a Zoom meeting. “I think it’s so disrespectful to come through our community, destroy homes, destroy so much, and not even have the thing stop here.”

- Preliminary plans call for the train to mostly tunnel depths between seven and 24 stories below the county, emerging above ground near Prince George’s border with Anne Arundel County. Elevated tracks would then parallel BW Parkway, before returning the maglev underground near Ft. Meade. --- No homes would be demolished, according to initial plans submitted to the Maryland Department of Transportation (MDOT) and the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA). “We need it because we’re drowning in absolutely abysmal traffic that is ruining our lives,” Wayne Rogers, chairman and CEO of the Northeast Maglev, said in a 2019 interview with WUSA9. “Nearly all our roads fail, we have the worst and longest commute in all of America, and I feel confident we’ll get approval from the federal government.”

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My confidence that this project could or would ever be built "hovers" in the low single digits, but if this country is ever going to advance with alternative transportation in this century we have to make sure that people like that moron in this article are kept from positions of influence.
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My confidence that this project could or would ever be built "hovers" in the low single digits, but if this country is ever going to advance with alternative transportation in this century we have to make sure that people like that moron in this article are kept from positions of influence.
As a county executive, she is already in a position of authority.

As for meglev trains, which agency within the USDOT will be given the responsibility to regulate it? The FRA seems unlikely because there will be no rails, the FTA is a possibility because there will be a guideway, the FAA because the vehicle will be flying a few inches above a guideway.

It has taken Texas Central almost a decade to get the FRA approval to use Shinkansen based train control system, a system in use over 50 years. How long will it take any federal agency to approve meglev control systems that are basically brand new with little history?

If you believe the various federal agencies will not fight over the regulatory powers of this new transportation method, what rock have you been living under. They fight for control over everything constantly.

Congress needs to address these responsibilities first, with potential political deadlock for years to come. Once who will regulate meglev is answered, how fast will that agency introduce new regulations for it?

Texas Central had basically zero train competition with Amtrak abandoning Dallas to Houston trains two decades ago. This meglev line will have two direct competitors, Amtrak and MARC. Both of them having politically active unions within the Democrat party.

I am not suggesting either pro or anti meglev opinions, just reflecting upon issues that will arise. Good luck!
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Then create a new FMA to oversee it.
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I missed that post from September. Man, it would be so cool if the Shanghai maglev was extended, and became a real-life intercity transportation link. I've ridden that train once, and it was surreal. It's the fastest scheduled train service in the world, meaning a TGV or whatever has gone faster once or twice, but you'll never get to ride one of those at that speed because it was just a stunt. The ex-TransRapid maglev is the real deal. It is an awesome train, and I hope they can make something real out of that little demonstration line they have now.
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Federal review of Baltimore-Washington high-speed maglev project moves ahead

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- A proposal to bring a high-speed maglev train system to the Washington region, which proponents say is key to addressing congestion along the Interstate 95 corridor, has reached a critical milestone. The Federal Railroad Administration on Friday released a preliminary review of the project, laying out potential routes, as well as economic and environmental impacts of the train service that would move passengers between the nation’s capital and Baltimore in 15 minutes. --- The 40-mile “superconducting magnetic levitation train system,” commonly called maglev, is planned as the first leg of a system that would carry passengers between Washington and New York in an hour. If federal approval is granted, which could happen as early as this year, the system could be built within a decade. --- The project would cost between $13.8 billion and $16.8 billion, depending on the alignment chosen, according to the FRA report. That cost range is higher than previous estimates. Northeast Maglev, the private investors behind the project, had pegged costs at $10 billion to $12 billion. The group has said it secured $5 billion from Japan.

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What are their plans for the Maglev into NYC?

I mean, they're starting on the easiest part. DC-Baltimore corridor is mostly flat sprawl, and you can just build on elevated guideway. But a route into NYC would be incredibly expensive, and that segment would be the most critical to its overall success. You would probably have a good 10 miles of tunnels, and Northern NJ is so congested you would have surface land acquisition issues.

Also, anyone know if this has a real chance of happening, perhaps complementing Acela and Amtrak's long-term plans for HSR? It would certainly be a nice option.
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A maglev would be a speedy option over protected land. But research and wildlife might suffer.

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- A high-speed train that would take passengers from Washington to Baltimore in 15 minutes as an alternative to traffic-choked roads would cut through a swath of public land, raising alarms among researchers who say hundreds of acres of forests and sensitive areas would be destroyed. — Its two proposed alignments east and west of the Baltimore-Washington Parkway would cut through woods and permanently alter parks, recreational facilities and wetlands. As many as 1,000 acres, including up to 328 acres of federal land, would be affected, according to a federal environmental review. — Viaducts and ancillary facilities, such as emergency exits and power substations, are planned on and adjacent to land that belongs to the National Park Service, NASA, the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the U.S. Secret Service, the National Security Administration, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and Fort Meade.

- Baltimore-Washington Rapid Rail, which is developing the system with sister company Northeast Maglev, said the line is planned as close to the parkway as possible to minimize bisecting large areas home to sensitive species and habitats. The company said routes under consideration would have the least effect on homes and other private property, keeping the project economically feasible. Measures that include the replanting of trees would be established to reduce impacts, the project proponents said. — The plan calls for a 180-acre paved maintenance yard on public land. Environmentalists and wildlife experts say viaducts and the maintenance yard would mar the land, now a protected green splotch in the middle of the heavily populated Washington-Baltimore corridor.

- “This is an Earth-built landscape millions of years in the making,” said Sam Droege, a wildlife biologist who has spent two decades conducting research in the area. “When you crush, excavate and finally smother this land with fill and concrete, you destroy forever an entire interlocked, respiring and breathing community, the home for thousands of organisms living deep in the soil up to the treetops. You don’t get it back.” Trains between D.C. and Baltimore would travel as fast as 311 mph, proponents say. — When the Federal Railroad Administration issued a draft review of the project in January, it laid out economic and environmental effects of the project, planned as the first leg of a rail system that would carry passengers between Washington and New York in an hour. — The FRA is nearing completion of a review that could lead to tunneling as early as next year. The train could begin operating by 2030.

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A maglev would be a speedy option over protected land. But research and wildlife might suffer.

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Baltimore-Washington Rapid Rail is a Limited Liability Corporation, so they should purchase on the open market whatever land they need for their for-profit enterprise.
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The Acela already can do Baltimore to DC in 22 minutes (theoretically... in practice it's usually 35 minutes) , on a right of way that can also be used by slower trains. Not sure a Maglev makes sense here.
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Nagoya actually has an urban maglev line up and running for many years already. The Linimo Line runs in the outskirts and is over 15 years old already.

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Nagoya actually has an urban maglev line up and running for many years already. The Linimo Line runs in the outskirts and is over 15 years old already.
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The Linimo operating speed is 100 km/hr or 62 mph.
Amtrak's Acela travels up to 135 mph, more than twice the speed of Linimo, as is between DC and Baltimore. Linimo will not be an upgrade, it would be a downgrade.
Shucks, I can get a 1960s era VW Beetle up to 62 mph, getting it to 300 mph will require significant changes. Sorry, Linimo is a poor proof of concept for a 300 mph train.
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Japan and China have balked at the enormous cost of building maglev to connect faraway cities, but a slower application in the urban context may be the way to go to keep the technology alive.
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D.C.-to-Baltimore maglev would only benefit rich, Amtrak chief says

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- Amtrak CEO William J. Flynn on Thursday took a shot at the proposed maglev train line for the Northeast Corridor, telling Congress the technology is vastly more expensive and environmentally disruptive than conventional and high-speed rail and once built, it would serve only the rich. — Flynn’s comments at a congressional hearing on the benefits and challenges of high-speed rail preceded testimony from Wayne Rogers, chief executive of Baltimore-Washington Rapid Rail, which is proposing the maglev line. — Rogers told the panel a maglev system would be complementary to Amtrak service, criticizing the existing service by saying the Northeast Corridor “lacks modern first-class transportation infrastructure.” — The 40-mile “superconducting magnetic levitation train system” is planned as the first leg of a system that would carry passengers between Washington and New York in an hour. The D.C.-to-Baltimore trip would take 15 minutes at speeds up to 311 mph. Plans call for its construction within a decade.

- The maglev trip time would be 15 minutes faster than an Acela train, which takes about 30 minutes. Flynn said that Acela trip could be cut to 21 minutes if federal investments are made, with the planned replacement of a Civil War-era tunnel south of Baltimore and other track improvements. Enhancements in the Northeast also would allow for D.C.-to-New York trips in two hours, he said. “Very few Amtrak NEC [Northeast Corridor] or MARC commuter rail passengers would be able to use, and even fewer could afford to use, the proposed Washington-Baltimore maglev,” Flynn said. — According to a federal analysis, the expected average fare would be $60 for a one-way trip to Baltimore, although it could vary between $27 and $80 per trip. Amtrak’s Acela costs about $46 one way, and a coach seat on a regular train can cost as little as $8. — Flynn’s comments come as the railroad is on a crusade to build support both financial and political for a major expansion of its network. Amtrak has unveiled a plan to provide new intercity service to 160 communities and expand service in corridors with heightened demand for rail. The passenger railroad is pushing for 30 possible new routes.

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Baltimore cites ‘equity, environmental justice’ in saying no to high-speed maglev train project

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- Citing concerns about equity and effects on the environment, the city is joining towns, transportation leaders and federal agencies on the project’s path in opposing the multibillion-dollar, privately funded project. “The City of Baltimore has several concerns … related to equity, environmental justice and community impacts,” Chris Ryer and Steve Sharkey, Baltimore’s planning and transportation chiefs, respectively, wrote to the Federal Railroad Administration in a May 14 letter, recommending a “no build alternative” for the project. The letter was a response to the project’s draft environmental impact statement. --- The letter continued: “The draft lacks a sufficient level of detail regarding current and future plans for the project which make a comprehensive analysis difficult. The proposed project is also not aligned with significant efforts underway to upgrade existing rail infrastructure in the corridor.”

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